New Product: TurboTwist High-Low™ - Arcade Up/Down Spinner - GroovyGameGear

[vertygo]

Too lazy to look it up, but I'm almost sure the up down aiming doesn't come into effect until like level 20 or 30 ?

[TPB]

Randy,

Awesome work !!

Hey, why isn't the TT-HL listed in the "Featured Products" section on the GGG homepage ... don't you think it's noteworthy enough to deserve a mention ??

As good as the TT-HL is, please don't discontinue production of the TT2 spinner ... it still has a niche to fill, with its lower price, its compatibility with the TokenTop adjustable resistance spinner knob, and as the ONLY spinner capable of handling the 7" steering wheel option.  As an aside, will the "DOT inspired spinner knob", as featured on the TT-HL, be made available as an option on the TT2 ?? ... it's a nicely crafted piece of steel indeed.

Most customers wouldn't have room on their panel for a 7" wheel anyway (I will, but most wouldn't), so they'll appreciate the effort you've made to make customised versions of the 5" & 6" wheels available as options on the TT-HL spinner.  You deserve congratulations for making the TT-HL as flexible a product as possible, within its design parameters ...

** Up / Down functionality,
** 1,200 transitions per revolution,
** Steering wheel capability.

[TPB]

Had a really weird idea today while I was dreaming of the HL.. is it possible, or even feasible, to use the HL (in combo with the steering wheel) as the gas pedal ? Ie. pull up to slow down (or speed up) and vice-versa ? I realize this would probably just completely destroy the thing within a few days, was just wondering if it was possible.

Theoretically, yes.  But the wheel has been made in such a way that it would not work, because doing this is very much not recommended.

RandyT

From what I gather, the "Steering Wheel mode" on the TT-HL spinner is provided for secondary functionality only.  The Up/Down functionality should NOT be used in this mode.

Problem with "pull up" in steering wheel mode :

** If you pull up, the steering wheel would come off in your hands, as it's not fastened to the spinner as such ... it just sits in place (a "slip fit", as Randy calls it) under its own weight.

Problems with "push down" in steering wheel mode :

** Given the weight of the steering wheel, inadvertent (ie, unintentional) "pushing down" shall probably occur constantly throughout gameplay, so this would NOT be a reliable switch in this mode.

** Intentional pressing of a "vigorous nature" on the steering wheel (which, under the stress and adrenalin of gameplay, could easily become "bashing" or "pounding"), may damage the components of the TT-HL, due to the weight of the steering wheel (keeping in mind the TT-HL was not designed to accommodate this purpose), and should therefore be avoided.

[Havok]

Ok I ordered my TTH-L can't wait to try DOT out.

Randy, now that the spinner is perfected & you have all this free time when is the 49 way coming out?

No no no - his next project is a Star Wars yoke, since RAM Controls is MIA...

[Hollywood]

Any pictures or videos of the Turbotwist High-Low in action?  I would love to see how it looks illuminated as well.

[Havok]

Ok I ordered my TTH-L can't wait to try DOT out.

Randy, now that the spinner is perfected & you have all this free time when is the 49 way coming out?

No no no - his next project is a Star Wars yoke, since RAM Controls is MIA...

FYI - THIS WAS A POST MADE IN JEST!

 

Who is this addressed to? You know who you are!

[FrizzleFried]

Who is this addressed to? You know who you are!

 

[fixedpigs]

As good as the TT-HL is, please don't discontinue production of the TT2 spinner

um...has randy given any indication that the tt2 will be discontinued...?

[TPB]

As good as the TT-HL is, please don't discontinue production of the TT2 spinner

um...has randy given any indication that the tt2 will be discontinued...?

I really hope that question was raised with sincerity.

We've already had enough nonsense sprouted by Havok, in the midst of Randy's thread.


To answer your question, I'll pose another :

Is the TT1 still on sale ??


The TT-HL is the latest model, and this raises the question of whether the TT2 shall continue to exist in parallel.

I hope it does, as I've stated above, as there are distinct markets for each product, so they complement each other nicely.


Cheers.

[RandyT]

Heh, ok guys, please?   

The TT2 is not in danger of being discontinued.  It's my "brainchild", and nothing could convince me to stop making them.  The TT-HL is more of a niche' item for the person who wants the ultimate spinner control and doesn't mind paying for it (BTW, the TT-HL is great fun for games not even designed for it, like Puzz-Loop using the down action as the fire button.  There are a number of possibilities for this style of play with it.)

The TT2 is the workhorse spinner, offered at a high performance to price ratio.  The two products are serving different markets, so they both still need to exist.

RandyT

[TPB]

The two products are serving different markets, so they both still need to exist.

Fantastic Randy.

That's music to our ears.   

[TPB]

Hey Randy,

I guess it was easy to miss this question I posed, with all the "distractions" that others have initiated in this thread ...

But now it appears we're finally back on topic, so I'll toss it up again, for your consideration :


Will the "DOT inspired spinner knob", as featured on the TT-HL, be made available as an option on the TT2 ??

As you've mentioned, the TT2 shall continue to be the mainstream "workhorse" spinner in your range, so it'd be nice to have that slick, stainless steel DOT knob as an option.   

[Havok]

Hey Randy,

That would be a great option to offer the DOT knob separate - I think it would look great on my TT2!

[vertygo]

Sheesh, why not support the guy and just splurge for the HL and swap out ? 

j/k!

[TPB]

Sheesh, why not support the guy and just splurge for the HL and swap out ? 

j/k!

Hey, seriously, there are reasons other than price ...   

The TT-HL looks awesome, with its Up / Down functionality.


But there are some benefits to the TT2 :

** Mounts in a standard button hole - no customised mounting required.

** Compatible with the TokenTop "adjustable resistance" spinner top.

** Compatible with the 7" Steering Wheel.

[vertygo]

Also the HL tastes like mint, whereas the TT has more of lemon twist.

[Visitor Q]

Back from the Dead, I mean it is getting close to Halloween right?

My question is I read in this post that since there is a clear base for this spinner that it is possible to put some sort of LED lighting under it but I see that it is not an option to buy with the spinner. What is recommended that I can buy from GGG to do this? All the rest of my CP will be using Electric Ice buttons and such so why not illuminate this as well if I decide to buy this spinner??? =]

[RandyT]

If you want to add some illumination, you can use any of the colors (other than black) and simply point some LED's up at it from each side.  You will get some shadowing, so you would need to make sure that the hole you make for the unit is cleaner than would normally be required.

If you need special lighting, send me an email with what you want it to do and I'll make a recommendation.

RandyT

[Visitor Q]

If you want to add some illumination, you can use any of the colors (other than black) and simply point some LED's up at it from each side.  You will get some shadowing, so you would need to make sure that the hole you make for the unit is cleaner than would normally be required.

If you need special lighting, send me an email with what you want it to do and I'll make a recommendation.

RandyT

Thank you for taking the time to address this and I will be reading you other reply next.

To your delight I am sure  every button on my CP will be electric ice as well as the trackball you offer. I want to be able to illuminate the spinner base in the same way as those buttons, with custom LED lighting. Scott from Mameroom is building my CP and I am pretty sure he plans to contact you about this as well but if you could address this for me, I would really appreciate it so that I can move forward with this project.

Again, I want to try and illuminate the base of the spinner in the same fashion as the electric ice buttons. Is this possible and what do I need to buy from you to do this?

Thank You Again.

ps. If you look back at reply #59 from you...

"I have white (translucent) in stock, but the other colors won't arrive until after the holidays.  I plan on offering the unit in Black, Blue, Red, Yellow, Green and an EI Version that comes with a lighting kit that can be attached to an LED-Wiz."

I am interested in the "EI Version that comes with a lighting kit that can be attached to an LED-Wiz."

[RandyT]

While an EI package was planned, it has not yet officially materialized.  It would have been based on the same configuration as indicated in my previous post.  Essentially, a translucent white plate with 2-4 RGB drives positioned below. 

RandyT

[Visitor Q]

While an EI package was planned, it has not yet officially materialized.  It would have been based on the same configuration as indicated in my previous post.  Essentially, a translucent white plate with 2-4 RGB drives positioned below. 

RandyT

Do you feel that this will distribute the light evenly underneath? I mean if it is a bad idea I would rather know now than later.

[RandyT]

As I stated above, some shadowing, such as the shape of the body and the panel cutout, is going to be unavoidable.

RandyT

[Visitor Q]

As I stated above, some shadowing, such as the shape of the body and the panel cutout, is going to be unavoidable.

RandyT

Ok, thank you.

[Ummon]

Currently, I'm planning on a panel with a TT high-low, but am having trouble finding an easy method to make a counter-sunk hole for the mounting plate. I don't recall anyone mentioning the idea of making the plate's edge beveled. Would be very similar to a button in this regard and would sure make things easy. What do you all think?  What do you think Randy?


Or, more easily even, is there enough lattitude in the knob height adjustment for a 3/4" panel that I could mount the spinner underneath?

[isucamper]

Currently, I'm planning on a panel with a TT high-low, but am having trouble finding an easy method to make a counter-sunk hole for the mounting plate. I don't recall anyone mentioning the idea of making the plate's edge beveled. Would be very similar to a button in this regard and would sure make things easy. What do you all think?  What do you think Randy?


Or, more easily even, is there enough lattitude in the knob height adjustment for a 3/4" panel that I could mount the spinner underneath?

I'm using 5/8" wood and 1/8" plexi and I went back and forth about whether to countersink the plate into the wood or flush with the plexi.  I ended up deciding to top mount it on the wood and flush mount it with the plexi (since the plate is about 1/8" itself). 

Either way, I needed a circular router jig that was (if I remember correctly) 2 and 1/4" in diameter.  I used a hole saw to make the jig, and then used the router to route the hole out of the plexi.  Could just as easily routed out the .110" out of the wood to flush mount it there. 

I'd post a picture, but everything is taken apart in preperation of getting the artwork applied hopefully this week. 

[Ummon]

No, that's cool I understand the description. It's the tools-related methods that are difficult because I don't have a place to work in.

[Markdonnell1975]

I know this posing is super old but I am so glad it still exists on the interweb.  Discs of Tron is my all time favorite arcade game.  I used to play on the holy grail "environmental" version at the skating rink.  I was searching for a way to play it with original style game play controls.  This spinner fixes the biggest missing part.  So freaking pumped I was still able to buy this from RandyT.

[Zeosstud]

Great addition to the community..

+1 for a tron joystick as a logical next product

- Zeosstud

[Gatt]

Does anyone know if all the wires coming from the housing should be in the connector? I'm changing my controls and when I pulled the spinner I found one gray wire not in the connector.

I could've easily done it while removing it, but not sure.

Thanks anyone who knows!

[Markdonnell1975]

Does anyone know if all the wires coming from the housing should be in the connector? I'm changing my controls and when I pulled the spinner I found one gray wire not in the connector.

I could've easily done it while removing it, but not sure.

Thanks anyone who knows!

Mine is waiting on the front porch.  I can check tonight when I get home.

[Gatt]

Does anyone know if all the wires coming from the housing should be in the connector? I'm changing my controls and when I pulled the spinner I found one gray wire not in the connector.

I could've easily done it while removing it, but not sure.

Thanks anyone who knows!

Mine is waiting on the front porch.  I can check tonight when I get home.

Thank you very much!  OI really appreciate the help!

[Mr. Peabody]

Great addition to the community..

+1 for a tron joystick as a logical next product

- Zeosstud

Like the up/down, he did. Like the up/down it went out of production. Unlike the up/down, it has not re-entered production. But the red handles are in production.......