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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2007, 01:21:58 pm »

Turning water into fossil fuels.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2007, 01:22:53 pm »

Turning water into fossil fuels.
i knew him and bush had something going on
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2007, 01:25:12 pm »

The only bush that Jesus has on his speed dial is the Burning Bush.


(and maybe the singing bush from The Three Amigos)

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2007, 01:29:47 pm »

The only bush that Jesus has on his speed dial is the Burning Bush.


(and maybe the singing bush from The Three Amigos)
i thought he was part of the holy trinity ,father, son ,holy ghost , bush senior ,bush junior and jesus , have i got this wrong  ;)

i really liked the three amigos
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2007, 01:38:01 pm »
Bush senior wasn't all that bad.  He wasn't all that great but he didn't do anything to deserve being lumped in with his son.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #85 on: May 16, 2007, 01:50:57 pm »
Go read up some USDA literature on the subject of food irradiation.  The fact that it kills e. coli and other microbial parasites is a HUGE BENEFIT.

I'm simply having a hard relating to someone that disbelieves it.  It's scientific fact.  It's a given.  There's no debate over it.


(Go look up the definition of irony before you use the word again.  I never said I attempted irony, you simply misused the term previously.  Is it ironic that 99% of people that use the term irony use it incorrectly?  Things that make you go hmmm)


just so you know dude i was cheif microbiologist for a food company before i went to university to study human nutrition and dietetics, i dont really need to do any reading on food.
irradiation may destroy the e coli bacteria but it will not protect you from e coli poisoning.
you are talking of food spoilage bacteria and im not aware that e coli is a food spoilage bacteria as we are concerned with it. e coli is present in the gut of animals so is more likely introduced to the food at the preparation stage , likely to be after food has been irradiated and is exacerbated by poor storage conditions very often. you are more likely to give yourself e coli poisoning than getting it from organic food.
those are facts too, just more relevant ones.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #86 on: May 16, 2007, 01:54:10 pm »
Bush senior wasn't all that bad.  He wasn't all that great but he didn't do anything to deserve being lumped in with his son.

i cant say i remember much of him, Reagan seemed to be a lot more in our news in his time,i couldnt really relate bush senior to anything i dont think, did he have the first go at saddam so to speak?
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #87 on: May 16, 2007, 01:55:32 pm »

He was President when we had to run Saddam out of Kuwait.  That was the first really high profile run at Saddam.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #88 on: May 16, 2007, 01:58:20 pm »

He was President when we had to run Saddam out of Kuwait.  That was the first really high profile run at Saddam.

there we go i do remember him for something then :cheers:
he didnt make much other impact in his presidency i take it?
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #89 on: May 16, 2007, 02:03:48 pm »
Not tons, he only had 1 term and in a lot of ways was tying up Reagan's ends.  No one knew what was going to happen with the Cold War just about over, and his term was mostly occupied with the first Gulf War.  If I had to guess, his biggest domestic impact was his involvement with NAFTA, which wasn't officially put into place until Clinton was in office.  IIRC he also put Clarence Thomas and one other on the Supreme Court, can't remember the second one offhand.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2007, 02:09:38 pm »

Well, seeing as how many people at the time were calling NAFTA great for Mexico, fairly crappy for Canada, and a night in a cell with Big Horny Jim the Sheep Rapist for the US, I can see why he wasn't always so high on it all the time.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #91 on: May 16, 2007, 02:13:13 pm »
chad i wanna come play with you. pinballjims making my head hurt
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2007, 02:14:27 pm »

He does that.   :-\

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2007, 02:22:06 pm »
This thread has been amusing...the amount of mis-information and hand waving made me think I was watching the republican candidate debate there for a minute  :laugh2:

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #94 on: May 16, 2007, 02:28:05 pm »

That's why Red Dwarf had 4691 irradiated haggids.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #95 on: May 16, 2007, 02:41:06 pm »
I grew up in apple country washington state.....food irradiation is nearly universal for orchard products.  It's very effective at killing BOTH microbes that might cause spoilage as well as any pathogenic microbes.  Of course that doesn't alleviate the need for proper food handling down the line (ie during transit, preparation, etc), but to argue that it's not effective at all is just silly.

Oh, and that mumbo jumbo about water,microwaves, and holistic stuff?   :banghead:

stop eating cheetos and pickup some fresh produce......but don't worry so much bout boiling your water in the microwave...as long as you don't superheat it and burn yourself  ;D

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #96 on: May 16, 2007, 02:43:58 pm »

I superheated and burned myself with tomato sauce once.  Ow.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #97 on: May 16, 2007, 03:11:08 pm »
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e coli comes from poo poo , if someone touches your food after making poo poo , youll get ill.
food manufacture is rarely free of human interference at any stage.
e coli is more likely to come from a person handling the food than from the food itself.
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #98 on: May 16, 2007, 03:11:33 pm »

and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


No.... I think that is more of a paradox.
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #99 on: May 16, 2007, 03:13:13 pm »

and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


No.... I think that is more of a paradox.
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #100 on: May 16, 2007, 03:29:45 pm »
pbj
e coli comes from poo poo , if someone touches your food after making poo poo , youll get ill.
food manufacture is rarely free of human interference at any stage.
e coli is more likely to come from a person handling the food than from the food itself.


eh, the most common source of e.coli and other coliform bacteria isn't human fecal matter, but rather animal livestock fecal matter somehow coming into contact with the food process cycle. 

and frankly, 99.9% of strains of e.coli are harmless. 

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #101 on: May 16, 2007, 03:42:30 pm »

If polaris didn't live overseas, I'd mail him a set of clown shoes.


and a Jack in the Box burger  ;)

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Re: How 'green' are you?
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #103 on: May 16, 2007, 04:15:11 pm »

and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


Your <ahem> "publisher" may or may not have a strong grip on irony, but he must certainly have a grip on editing punctuation and spelling. I cannot imagine there would be any chance of your getting published if he didn't.

It would be much less difficult to approach taking you seriously if you had some semblance of command over the language you are typing.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #104 on: May 16, 2007, 04:20:44 pm »

and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


Your <ahem> "publisher" may or may not have a strong grip on irony, but he must certainly have a grip on editing punctuation and spelling. I cannot imagine there would be any chance of your getting published if he didn't.

It would be much less difficult to approach taking you seriously if you had some semblance of command over the language you are typing.


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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2007, 04:27:47 pm »
Thanks for the effort guys.  I regularly spill some gas while pumping it into my f-150.  I keep the tires low pressure so they make less noise.  I have my thermostat in my house set at 68 in the summer, 78 in the winter.  I yell at my kids for leaving lights off.  I drink  a 12 pack of coke a day, and throw all the cans and bottles in the woods behind my house.  I over fertilize my lawn so it looks nice and green.  Who cares if I can walk across the pond?  I leave all 10 of my TV's on and loud so I don't have to go into a room and think.  I wash my socks seperately so they don't get lost.  I change the oil in my car every 3K miles and pour the old oil in the storm sewer.  I give the EPA helicopters flying over the river here the finger.

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I just recently bought a rechargeable, cordless, electric lawn-mower, since a conventional lawn mower pollutes as much air in one hour as 40 late model cars running simultaneously.


Much like Catholics light a candle for someone, I've lit a tire fire in your honor


There's no regulation on gas-powered lawn-mower motors...hence, they spew a lot of crap into the air.


I'd bet you spew more crap into the air than a lawn mower.  I'm reporting you to the EPA ;D

After 5 years of owning it, I finally tuned up my lawn mower last weekend.  I'm surprised the poor little bugger even started.  Saved a lot of money doing it all myself, but now I have to figure out what to do with the oil.

Airmail it to me.  You'll put money into the economy, the jet will waste tremendous amounts of fuel to get your used oil to me, and it will help my tire fire last longer when I pour it onto the fire.

Just remember.... you can make your life miserable and obsessed with energy conservation and recycling... and the net effect is zero.

India and China are rapidly becoming modern nations and those guys are gonna suck resources down like we taught them to.

Enjoy life, leave the lights on.

but some of us have children that we care about so we dont want to act like you

I have kids I care about.  I lit the tire fire partially to keep them warm.  Sure it's 70 degrees out, but you can't risk getting a chill and coming down with a cold, right?  It's the responsible way to raise children.

Just remember.... you can make your life miserable and obsessed with energy conservation and recycling... and the net effect is zero.

India and China are rapidly becoming modern nations and those guys are gonna suck resources down like we taught them to.

Enjoy life, leave the lights on.

but some of us have children that we care about so we dont want to act like you

Didn't you get the memo? The world does in fact revolve around pinballjim. ;)

This in fact is incorrect.  Jacktucky has his own gravitational pull, therefore it revolves around him.  We're just along for the ride.

one child, and yes moron i do love her enough to want for her not to suffer because of selfish ---punks--- like you.

How are your motivations not selfish?


to point out your obvious lack of  understanding of the English language

...seems like someone's trying to decide if the kettle is a dark enough shade to qualify for black

Polaris wants us to forgo all modern conveniences and disrupt our daily lives just because it -might- make a difference in the weather in 100 years. 
when did i say this?
dont assume mate ,it makes an ass out of u and me.  :laugh2: particularly you.

The BBC polled eleventy brazillion second-graders.  100% said your joke was teh lamezorz, and that adding "particularly you" multiplied the lameness by a factor of eleventy.

sorry to sound a snob but it is the lower end of society that is becoming the larger proprtion, which is economically unsustainable

A while back, in a thread somewhere around here, I suggested sterilizing the lower classes.

It didn't go over well.

I thought it went over SMASHINGLY Ed!  I see a few problems with it, but I'm all for it.  I will miss going to truck pulls and monster truck demonstrations, but at least I won't have to watch NASCAR or wrestling ;D

I plan on being around for at least a few centuries.

200 years of tranqhair. Leave the lights on.

Cowbell, I showed a rep from Motel 6 this thread.  He'd like to buy your advertising slogan


Oh, and if a few less people die from e. coli in the deal, even better.

pesticides dont kill bacteria and e coli poisoning would be down to a person not washing after using the toilet as it comes from animals digestive systems.


Who said anything about pesticides?  I'm talking about irradation in my example.

Hello?  McFly?  Beuller?  Is this thing on?

Hippies don't believe in reading EVERY word.  Saves on eyeball movement, which studies have shown will cause less heat and greenhouse gasses.  It's on the internet, so you know it has to be true :dunno

Radiation denatures the food. I don't even use a microwave anymore, even for water. There are those who thing water is a 'crystaline' structure, that can be ordered and disordered. Actually, there's bonafide research, recently, that implies why homeopathic solutions work - ever after being completely strained of the herbal, etc, material - due to zero point energy resonances.

...

And here I thought  hippies had long hair.  Go figure.

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The Food and Drug Administration has approved irradiation of meat and poultry and allows its use for a variety of other foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, and spices. The agency determined that the process is safe and effective in decreasing or eliminating harmful bacteria. Irradiation als
o reduces spoilage bacteria, insects and parasites, and in certain fruits and vegetables it inhibits sprouting and delays ripening. For example, irradiated strawberries stay unspoiled up to three weeks, versus three to five days for untreated berries.

Food irradiation is allowed in nearly 40 countries and is endorsed by the World Health Organization, the American Medical Association and many other organizations.

Irradiation does not make foods radioactive, just as an airport luggage scanner does not make luggage radioactive. Nor does it cause harmful chemical changes. The process may cause a small loss of nutrients but no more so than with other processing methods such as cooking, canning, or heat pasteurization. Federal rules require irradiated foods to be labeled as such to distinguish them from non-irradiated foods.

Go chain yourself to a tree and sing a song, wontcha?




I plan on being around for at least a few centuries.

200 years of tranqhair. Leave the lights on.

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Thanks, MC, for the heads-up.

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CJ, need me to add a few more tires to the fire for ya?


Man, I'm gonna go rub my crystals on my magnets for extra healing power.


Keep your "crystals" in your pants


and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


Your <ahem> "publisher" may or may not have a strong grip on irony, but he must certainly have a grip on editing punctuation and spelling. I cannot imagine there would be any chance of your getting published if he didn't.

It would be much less difficult to approach taking you seriously if you had some semblance of command over the language you are typing.

Nos, you're NEVER gonna get published like Polaris the science-y guy if you don't get a "perfect grip of irony" like he's got, even if you ARE right ;D


Polaris, perhaps you'd do yourself some good to check out this neat new thing called "the internet".  Look for "e coli" and "spinach".  See if anything pops up.  See if they attribute it to some guy droppin' a deuce and then failing to wash his hands, or if it had to do with NON-human (I'm referring to ANIMALS, since it's fairly obvious you aren't able to keep up with the conversation DESPITE being a "food scientist" and all) issues.  Also, mopping floors at the local grocery store when someone drops a jar of salsa doesn't make you a "food scientist" :laugh2: 

For someone who claims to have a job requiring that much brainpower, it certainly doesn't translate very well to the printed word :dunno  Methinks it's along the lines of our FBI janitor who was saving the world from the likes of Harpal :laugh2:
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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2007, 04:31:20 pm »

There's no regulation on gas-powered lawn-mower motors...hence, they spew a lot of crap into the air.


I'd bet you spew more crap into the air than a lawn mower.  I'm reporting you to the EPA ;D


Two comments: 

1)  Wow, I was totally spared.
2)  The above quote:   :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2007, 04:32:06 pm »
Thanks for the effort guys.  I regularly spill some gas while pumping it into my f-150.  I keep the tires low pressure so they make less noise.  I have my thermostat in my house set at 68 in the summer, 78 in the winter.  I yell at my kids for leaving lights off.  I drink  a 12 pack of coke a day, and throw all the cans and bottles in the woods behind my house.  I over fertilize my lawn so it looks nice and green.  Who cares if I can walk across the pond?  I leave all 10 of my TV's on and loud so I don't have to go into a room and think.  I wash my socks seperately so they don't get lost.  I change the oil in my car every 3K miles and pour the old oil in the storm sewer.  I give the EPA helicopters flying over the river here the finger.

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I just recently bought a rechargeable, cordless, electric lawn-mower, since a conventional lawn mower pollutes as much air in one hour as 40 late model cars running simultaneously.


Much like Catholics light a candle for someone, I've lit a tire fire in your honor


There's no regulation on gas-powered lawn-mower motors...hence, they spew a lot of crap into the air.


I'd bet you spew more crap into the air than a lawn mower.  I'm reporting you to the EPA ;D

After 5 years of owning it, I finally tuned up my lawn mower last weekend.  I'm surprised the poor little bugger even started.  Saved a lot of money doing it all myself, but now I have to figure out what to do with the oil.

Airmail it to me.  You'll put money into the economy, the jet will waste tremendous amounts of fuel to get your used oil to me, and it will help my tire fire last longer when I pour it onto the fire.

Just remember.... you can make your life miserable and obsessed with energy conservation and recycling... and the net effect is zero.

India and China are rapidly becoming modern nations and those guys are gonna suck resources down like we taught them to.

Enjoy life, leave the lights on.

but some of us have children that we care about so we dont want to act like you

I have kids I care about.  I lit the tire fire partially to keep them warm.  Sure it's 70 degrees out, but you can't risk getting a chill and coming down with a cold, right?  It's the responsible way to raise children.

Just remember.... you can make your life miserable and obsessed with energy conservation and recycling... and the net effect is zero.

India and China are rapidly becoming modern nations and those guys are gonna suck resources down like we taught them to.

Enjoy life, leave the lights on.

but some of us have children that we care about so we dont want to act like you

Didn't you get the memo? The world does in fact revolve around pinballjim. ;)

This in fact is incorrect.  Jacktucky has his own gravitational pull, therefore it revolves around him.  We're just along for the ride.

one child, and yes moron i do love her enough to want for her not to suffer because of selfish ---punks--- like you.

How are your motivations not selfish?


to point out your obvious lack of  understanding of the English language

...seems like someone's trying to decide if the kettle is a dark enough shade to qualify for black

Polaris wants us to forgo all modern conveniences and disrupt our daily lives just because it -might- make a difference in the weather in 100 years. 
when did i say this?
dont assume mate ,it makes an ass out of u and me.  :laugh2: particularly you.

The BBC polled eleventy brazillion second-graders.  100% said your joke was teh lamezorz, and that adding "particularly you" multiplied the lameness by a factor of eleventy.

sorry to sound a snob but it is the lower end of society that is becoming the larger proprtion, which is economically unsustainable

A while back, in a thread somewhere around here, I suggested sterilizing the lower classes.

It didn't go over well.

I thought it went over SMASHINGLY Ed!  I see a few problems with it, but I'm all for it.  I will miss going to truck pulls and monster truck demonstrations, but at least I won't have to watch NASCAR or wrestling ;D

I plan on being around for at least a few centuries.

200 years of tranqhair. Leave the lights on.

Cowbell, I showed a rep from Motel 6 this thread.  He'd like to buy your advertising slogan


Oh, and if a few less people die from e. coli in the deal, even better.

pesticides dont kill bacteria and e coli poisoning would be down to a person not washing after using the toilet as it comes from animals digestive systems.


Who said anything about pesticides?  I'm talking about irradation in my example.

Hello?  McFly?  Beuller?  Is this thing on?

Hippies don't believe in reading EVERY word.  Saves on eyeball movement, which studies have shown will cause less heat and greenhouse gasses.  It's on the internet, so you know it has to be true :dunno

Radiation denatures the food. I don't even use a microwave anymore, even for water. There are those who thing water is a 'crystaline' structure, that can be ordered and disordered. Actually, there's bonafide research, recently, that implies why homeopathic solutions work - ever after being completely strained of the herbal, etc, material - due to zero point energy resonances.

...

And here I thought  hippies had long hair.  Go figure.

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The Food and Drug Administration has approved irradiation of meat and poultry and allows its use for a variety of other foods, including fresh fruits and vegetables, and spices. The agency determined that the process is safe and effective in decreasing or eliminating harmful bacteria. Irradiation als
o reduces spoilage bacteria, insects and parasites, and in certain fruits and vegetables it inhibits sprouting and delays ripening. For example, irradiated strawberries stay unspoiled up to three weeks, versus three to five days for untreated berries.

Food irradiation is allowed in nearly 40 countries and is endorsed by the World Health Organization, the American Medical Association and many other organizations.

Irradiation does not make foods radioactive, just as an airport luggage scanner does not make luggage radioactive. Nor does it cause harmful chemical changes. The process may cause a small loss of nutrients but no more so than with other processing methods such as cooking, canning, or heat pasteurization. Federal rules require irradiated foods to be labeled as such to distinguish them from non-irradiated foods.

Go chain yourself to a tree and sing a song, wontcha?




I plan on being around for at least a few centuries.

200 years of tranqhair. Leave the lights on.

* CheffoJeffo runs downstairs to power up all of the games and turn on the lights, televisions, laundry and air conditioning

Thanks, MC, for the heads-up.

 :cheers:

CJ, need me to add a few more tires to the fire for ya?


Man, I'm gonna go rub my crystals on my magnets for extra healing power.


Keep your "crystals" in your pants


and i dont need lessons on English either , my publisher feels i have a perfect grip of irony, maybe too strong a grip for some.


Your <ahem> "publisher" may or may not have a strong grip on irony, but he must certainly have a grip on editing punctuation and spelling. I cannot imagine there would be any chance of your getting published if he didn't.

It would be much less difficult to approach taking you seriously if you had some semblance of command over the language you are typing.

Nos, you're NEVER gonna get published like Polaris the science-y guy if you don't get a "perfect grip of irony" like he's got, even if you ARE right ;D


Polaris, perhaps you'd do yourself some good to check out this neat new thing called "the internet".  Look for "e coli" and "spinach".  See if anything pops up.  See if they attribute it to some guy droppin' a deuce and then failing to wash his hands, or if it had to do with NON-human (I'm referring to ANIMALS, since it's fairly obvious you aren't able to keep up with the conversation DESPITE being a "food scientist" and all) issues.  Also, mopping floors at the local grocery store when someone drops a jar of salsa doesn't make you a "food scientist" :laugh2: 

For someone who claims to have a job requiring that much brainpower, it certainly doesn't translate very well to the printed word :dunno  Methinks it's along the lines of our FBI janitor who was saving the world from the likes of Harpal :laugh2:

Go Drew!!!   

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2007, 05:34:01 pm »

I seriously think this is just about the best thread ever.


I must agree.  Now we just gotta keep it outta Post Hell


There's no regulation on gas-powered lawn-mower motors...hence, they spew a lot of crap into the air.


I'd bet you spew more crap into the air than a lawn mower.  I'm reporting you to the EPA ;D


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1)  Wow, I was totally spared.
2)  The above quote:   :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

1)  There was too much diddling around to get that post-fart done.  Last thing I wanted to do was diddle you too
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« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2007, 05:39:21 pm »
 

If polaris didn't live overseas, I'd mail him a set of clown shoes.


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« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2007, 06:01:57 pm »

If polaris didn't live overseas, I'd mail him a set of clown shoes.


and a Jack in the Box burger  ;)

MMmmmm.... Ultimate Cheeseburger. I could go for one of those right about now.

I considered it, but I've already had my quota of fecal matter this week....just from reading this thread!

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2007, 06:26:26 pm »
1)  There was too much diddling around to get that post-fart done.  Last thing I wanted to do was diddle you too

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2007, 08:46:00 pm »
drew i enjoy your ribbing so please let me defend myself on one point , the lame joke , yeah i know , its used lot in british comedy in a very sarcastic fashion , cheesy and lame, maybe purporting to being condescending for the sake of it if you see what i mean. :cheers:
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« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2007, 09:04:27 pm »
1)  There was too much diddling around to get that post-fart done.  Last thing I wanted to do was diddle you too

Did I date you in high school?

Holy CRAP that's a frightening thought!


and for the few who mentioned it, ahh the bitter sweet irony of my typing being so poor.


I think you're starting to get the hang of this irony thing ;)
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« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2007, 09:15:20 pm »

I think you're starting to get the hang of this irony thing ;)
i get my mum to do it usually, and the washing, that way she's destroying the planet, not me. ;)
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« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2007, 10:24:27 pm »

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No, he's really just a figure head. Or, another way, drew's been hangin out wi' da homies a little too much...in disguise, of course.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2007, 10:43:02 pm »
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i just wanted to respond to the last bit of your post, i just noticed it. its meaner than the other bits ;)
if i were given 3 samples of food and told that an e coli outbreak came from one of them ,it would be foolhardy not to test one of them because i was told it had been irradiated at some point in its 'life'.
do you think thats a fair statement , and i ask genuinely, im not trying to be clever, it would seem i'm failing that in most peoples opinions already.
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« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2007, 11:31:25 pm »
Not really green at all here.   :cheers:

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2007, 11:52:02 pm »
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i just wanted to respond to the last bit of your post, i just noticed it. its meaner than the other bits ;)

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if i were given 3 samples of food and told that an e coli outbreak came from one of them ,it would be foolhardy not to test one of them because i was told it had been irradiated at some point in its 'life'.
do you think thats a fair statement , and i ask genuinely, im not trying to be clever, it would seem i'm failing that in most peoples opinions already.

Indeed it WOULD be foolhardy not to test it!

Here's what you're missing:

1 - you keep stressing the HUMAN fecal matter
2 - you either aren't privy to or have heard about the numerous (numerous to me, at least) e coli outbreaks in the States here that have invariably been caused by ANIMAL fecal matter
3 - irradiation kills the e coli bacteria, and had the cases in question in the States here been subject to irradiation, there wouldn't have been the e coli outbreaks

Methinks it's just a language thing, is all, and the numerous reports of such cases in our country that you might not be aware of.  Processing of food in our country and widespread contamination tends to come from sources OTHER than the guy packaging your food who forgot to wash his hands after leaving a steamer in the loo a few moments before, and it's kind of ironic (there's that word again ;D ) that these cases are well known to our country to the point that they disagree with your viewpoint, and even MORE ironic given that you were a "food scientist" ;D

See, it's all kinds of funny, but it matters greatly the perspective in this case.

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Re: How 'green' are you?
« Reply #119 on: May 17, 2007, 01:50:19 pm »
'Of', rather. But not necessarily. Just cos someone doesn't use capitlization and punctuation doesn't mean they can't think clearly. Also, just cos what someone learns somewhere isn't what you're familiar with, or what isn't what in your experience is mainstream, doesn't mean it's incorrect or inaccurate. For that matter, both your all's ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- could be, to whatever degree.

polaris: 100g of protein a day. From the sources I've seen, less than a gram of protein per pound of muscle is for those who aren't very active, particularly in strength and muscle-building exercises. Are you 75 kilos and not very active? And on fruit, again: what about fruit in your knowledge and experience is crucial to nutrition? (Lastly, don't let the crowd get at ya.)