Altered Beast!!!

[david656]

hi again people!

ok i have fiddled about with a Crystal Maze SWP for a while and figured i now have enough knowledge of what i want to do to start my prject.

i want to either get and revamp or make from scratch a Altered Beast arcade cabinet.

firstly i have searched high and low on google and found some pictures of the cabinet art and manipulated them and cleaned them up as best as i can and hope they look nearly as good as the real ones which i cannot get!

so its now just the cabinet because my Crystal Maze cab was a MAME anyway so i can transfer it all over and scrap teh cab 

so if anyone could maybe send a link to a page of dimentions for the cab or even has a cab for me in bristol that would be great, i did see the dimentions once on the net and swear i downloaded the page but could not find it  but hopefully u guy's can help me:)


cheers

[Crowquill]

As far as I know, Altered Beast was only sold as a kit to convert existing cabinets. Most I played were Williams cabinets (like the pic on KLOV).

If you want a SIMILAR cab to what it might have been like, maybe you could copy the Alien Syndrome cab. I think that was the only System-16 game that had it's own cab.

Crackdown was sold as a dedicated machine a few years after AB, but appears to be a standard Dynamo cut-corner cab.

I'd use whatever cab you could get or find a design you like and build it. By the time you put clean artwork on it, it'll look dedicated anyway.

[david656]

oh yeh!

ok i rephrase

i want the design for the Golden Axe case i think

and one got spec for that type of case?

[david656]

btw people if any of u would like a copy of my best try at re doing the altered beast artwork feel free to post a email address and i will send u a copy of them 

[Ken Layton]

Altered Beast and Golden Axe were only available as conversion kits. They could be installed in just about any cabinet.

In general though, I installed Altered Beast in Williams cabinets and Golden Axe in Nintendo cabinets.

[david656]

lol trust me to make taht mistake!!

so what sort of williams cabinets did you put altered beast in?

thanks for that btw

see i want to make a really good dedicated altered beast cab, and maybe have a altered beast control panel and a MAME control panel so i can play loads of cool games on it 

[david656]

i was looking at a cab like the one on the right here on this site

http://www.coinop.org/g.aspx/100442/Altered_Beast.html

[Crowquill]

That looks like a Robotron cab. If you look over at Jakobud.com, probably the closest match to that one is Moon Patrol. Other Williams cabs on there are Defender or Stargate. If you want to see more examples of the Moon Patrol cab, take a look at Joust cabs too. I'm thinking they're the same except width.

Ken--the Williams makes sense, but is there any reason to put Golden Axe in a Nintendo cab? I know most of the Shinobis I played were in Williams cabs.

[david656]

thank you thank you thank you thank you 

MOON PATROL is the shape i want! your right in saying it was a robertron thou so thanks for giving me both options.

but the sides on moon patrol are much more square to shape and thats what i was looking for.

any idea's on building one of these things where i would get some blue prints???

thank you again!

[Crowquill]

I think your enthusiasm is getting the better of you.

As mentioned before, www.jakobud.com is a site that provides free, downloadable plans for cabinets.

While it really doesn't have much to do with the cabinets, you might read a bit about Sega's System-16 hardware that Altered Beast ran on. It was quite popular and Sega used it for many games (such as the ones I've mentioned). A good source of info is here:

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=701

If you're making this a multi-game cab you might want to widen the cabinet a bit. Most fighting game cabinets were 24-26 inches wide between the sides. You probably want enough room for two people to comfortably play.

[david656]

your right im overwelmed with excitment!!!!

i spoke to Mr. Dando a mate of mine and he said "you know what me and another mate was chatting saying how much we would like to make a arcade machine" so i cracked a deal, i would sort out all the innereds for him if he would help with the building of the cab.

so im starting in 2 and a bit weeks

and will end up with a nice upright and 2 cocktail's

any idea's for cocktails so i can give them something to work on


thanks again

[shardian]

http://www.mikesarcade.com/arcade/cabplans.html

please don't let your head explode all over that nice pc you are using.

[david656]

huh!!! ooooo i bin on taht site again because i found it once and discarded it as altered beast was not mentioned 

but got them downloaded amazed at .EPS? converted them all to .PDF quality stuff cannot wait

[david656]

latest update.

i have got the design i want with thanks to you guy's on taht one.

given the design to my mate who is going to sort out all the wood . BUT do i use ply or MDF thickness 0.75".

and i also managed to get them some cocktail designs so its all good im going to go out and get som e brasso on my to be screen as there is a hair line scratch that go's straight down the middle.

im so excitted teh Crystal Maze was just holding me back now theres no stoping me muaha ha ha ha ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmao!


cheers

[Crowquill]

Is anyone else starting to get scared? Are you really david666 in disguise? 

[david656]

lmao nah muah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH lol JOKE 

put brasso on monitor screen EEK there is now a different colour patch in the middle of the screen where the brasso was rubbed in great tip taht was just ruined my monitor! 

so eny of u guys no what i can do to rectify taht??

[david656]

ummm i'll say it again i got the alterd beast artwork as refined by ME so its not mazin but pritty good

anyone know somewhere i can get the artwork professional markquee bezel side art???

[shardian]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

I can barely understand what you are saying. Please say that you are not from the US, otherwise you might want to go back to school.

[SavannahLion]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

He read about it elsewhere on the forum.

[david656]

number one i AM a kid! im 15, 16 this year 

number two: im excited muched it up will now pay the price of having to either live with a like slightly off colour blob or look around for a 19" PC monitor, it was nearly impossible to find one in the fist place!

so im rounding up all my arcade parts and boxing them ready for my next school term as im going to be using the workshops of my school after school, so i have acess to all the stuff i need to do it

wish me luck and any more advice or points for sorting out my screen???

[polaris]

was just about to say i bet he's a teenager ,none of  them can spell outside of a text message as its their primary form of communication , but some very clever people call it the progression of language so who are we oldies to say.
dave ,say goodbye to your tv mate.
im sure you can find a monitor somewhere cheap enough or even another tv but i appreciate your in school and probably skint, im sure i can find someone in bristol with an old monitor lying around got a few mates there, could you get a lift to pick one up off your parents if i found you one in bristol

[shardian]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

He read about it elsewhere on the forum.

Wish I would've seen this earlier. This came up about a year ago and the consensus was that a scratch on a crt is gonna stick around. You'll just eat off the antiglare coating by polishing it. If the scratch is deep enough, it can be dangerous.

Anyways, good luck on your project. And make sure to take a little time to type your thoughts out clearly so we can help you better. Spelling shortcuts are okay, I can even sometimes stomach lack of punctuation.

[polaris]

 I can even sometimes stomach lack of punctuation.

sorry to be pedantic but that should be 'the lack of punctuation'

and re the monitor, ive got a mate in bristol asking round , hes got one in work but wont see his boss until the morning so i'll let you know

[Fozzy The Bear]

Wish I would've seen this earlier. This came up about a year ago and the consensus was that a scratch on a crt is gonna stick around. You'll just eat off the antiglare coating by polishing it. If the scratch is deep enough, it can be dangerous.

Not just the anti glare, but the anti static coating as well.... anybody who fancies a shock every time they play a game is welcome to try this stupid trick. Whoever gave him this suggestion needs a kick up the rear.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[steveh]

I am glad i read this thread before i used the directions in the other thread.

[david656]

guys WOW thanks for the support here

can this monitor be that unstable now? the scratch wasn't deep although you could see and feel it but like i say im sure now i have rubbed of the anti glare because its shinney and from angle more reflective but i haven't electricuted myself on it yet!

im in hanham/kingswood btw.

i always hated txt talk but its catchy but i never use txts hate them!

umm im never mega skint money turns up im doing a few jobs soon so can rasie up some money for the shell to be made, give our schools Tec technician he is going away over easter and checking they have big enough panels of wood for the job as i gave him the plans and if not is going to sort it out and he is going to get it all sorted for next term.

sorry i haven't got back in a day or so, my grans on holiday so i have been round there on all my old PC's in her garage so not at home atall!

umm........

if you can get me a monitor 19" tahts amazing 

yeh i mean im new to all this stuff, im a computer wiz thou  all my family and mates rely on me for that but monitors as u can see im not hot on 

i was like up till 1am yesterday having a go at DOS 6 with mame im getting the jist of getting mame to load a game but i was mising files i had at home but not at my grans so couldn't actually start a game

right well im off to update my site so it actually works since the bodge up job i did on it last time 
 

but if my laptop keeps up as it is its going to never turn on again thank god for the powerful desktop WOWOW ...... which doesn't have frontpage but laptop does !!!!!!

[polaris]

not heard anything yet , but the guy i spoke to works so close to you ,you could carry one home, fingers crossed.

[david656]

lol why where does this guy work?

[polaris]

cant remember exactly i just know you turn off the ring road at the new cheltenham turn off , which looks quite close to you , hopefuly ill be drinking heavily with him tomorrow so he should have an answer for me.

[polaris]

btw way if your a wiz with computers have a look at the problem ive posted in the software and main forum with slightly different explanations
software
main
see if you can work that out

[SavannahLion]

yeh i mean im new to all this stuff, im a computer wiz thou  all my family and mates rely on me for that but....

 

Sorry, nothing against you. I always think that's amusing when people say that.

You're going to regret it in a few years. I used to do that and it got to the point where everybody expected me to fix their PC either free or on the cheap (usually free). It's OK when you're still learning, but when you eventually have to make a living, it doesn't work out. I did it for a bit longer on the premise that I would build a "potential job network". I was slow to realize that if any of those ---uvulas--- actually knew someone that could land me a job they wouldn't be coming to me for PC work, they'd be going to them.

It's a bit like moving to Hollywood in the hopes you can land that acting job or to get your killer movie script accepted. People have done it, but not enough to make the effort really worth while.

Nowadays, when most people ask me to fix their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, I tell them I don't work on anything other than CP/M.

[RayB]

i always hated txt talk but its catchy but i never use txts hate them!

umm im never mega skint money turns up im doing a few jobs soon so can rasie up some money for the shell to be made, give our schools Tec technician he is going away over easter and checking they have big enough panels of wood for the job as i gave him the plans and if not is going to sort it out and he is going to get it all sorted for next term.

sorry i haven't got back in a day or so, my grans on holiday so i have been round there on all my old PC's in her garage so not at home atall

Sorry, I don't mean any offense, but when I read this part, I couldn't help but think...

"yeh but yer but no but ..."

 

[david656]

yeh i make money out of some people but i never ever want to rip people off so if it takes me a week to do it i only ask £10 MAX.

ummm there are idiots taht abuse my 'talent' LOL but i don't mind as long as im increasing my knowledge.

and  the next one yeh we all yer buts no buts down y'ere!!!!


back to subject in hand!

im using a very very old PC for my arcade machine, this is because it has ISA slots and therefore can support my very old ISA soundcard which i must say is amazing for all the old DOS games.

Duke Nukem 3D, Stonekeep, and a few other classics.

and the point is i just decided to take the fan off the processor for some reason and now when u first turn teh computer on it sort of makes a very loud noise! it quiets down after a while but i just wonder why it does this?

[Fozzy The Bear]

and the point is i just decided to take the fan off the processor for some reason and now when u first turn teh computer on it sort of makes a very loud noise! it quiets down after a while but i just wonder why it does this?

Dead power supply fan bearings...... I have one that does that, and has been doing it for two years. The only reason I haven't fixed it is because I just can't be bothered. You could strip it down and change the fan or fans out in the power supply and it will shut up.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

hummmm let me just make sure we on the same lines

its a old pc, i took fan off, put it back on, rattles, went to my local maplins and because the pc is so frikin old the processor fan is not made!?!?!?!?!?!?

its a pentium MMX technology !!!! its funny because you look at the heatsinks on the new PC's then u look at this and i just wondered wheither i should just unplug the fan and take it off??

the power suply fan is fine btw

[Fozzy The Bear]

i just wondered wheither i should just unplug the fan and take it off??

NO! if your processor was designed to run with a fan then it needs it to keep cool....  Only really the P2 and earlier without a fan installed at the design stage are OK to run without one.

You can easily fudge a processor fan onto most heat syncs.... Have you got a good picture of the fan type??

You should be able to get a small 12V fan and just figure out how to screw it on there.

BTW.. I'm not too far away from you... Down in Cornwall.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

humm i will get some pictures up soon of it

but yeh its like a 4-6cm square fan.

todays fans too big, chipset fans a little too small

[polaris]

forgot to mention fozzy to you dave, listen to the man ,he knows.
youll be pleased to know that he works in one of those arcade things youve heard us old people talk about.

[david656]

lol cooooll

there nearest thing to a arcade is the arcade in the local bowling alley

all high tech HOTD etc

[david656]

right

for the artwork is there enywhere professional i can go to get sorted in school we got a A2 printer