Altered Beast!!!

[david656]

hi again people!

ok i have fiddled about with a Crystal Maze SWP for a while and figured i now have enough knowledge of what i want to do to start my prject.

i want to either get and revamp or make from scratch a Altered Beast arcade cabinet.

firstly i have searched high and low on google and found some pictures of the cabinet art and manipulated them and cleaned them up as best as i can and hope they look nearly as good as the real ones which i cannot get!

so its now just the cabinet because my Crystal Maze cab was a MAME anyway so i can transfer it all over and scrap teh cab 

so if anyone could maybe send a link to a page of dimentions for the cab or even has a cab for me in bristol that would be great, i did see the dimentions once on the net and swear i downloaded the page but could not find it  but hopefully u guy's can help me:)


cheers

[Crowquill]

As far as I know, Altered Beast was only sold as a kit to convert existing cabinets. Most I played were Williams cabinets (like the pic on KLOV).

If you want a SIMILAR cab to what it might have been like, maybe you could copy the Alien Syndrome cab. I think that was the only System-16 game that had it's own cab.

Crackdown was sold as a dedicated machine a few years after AB, but appears to be a standard Dynamo cut-corner cab.

I'd use whatever cab you could get or find a design you like and build it. By the time you put clean artwork on it, it'll look dedicated anyway.

[david656]

oh yeh!

ok i rephrase

i want the design for the Golden Axe case i think

and one got spec for that type of case?

[david656]

btw people if any of u would like a copy of my best try at re doing the altered beast artwork feel free to post a email address and i will send u a copy of them 

[Ken Layton]

Altered Beast and Golden Axe were only available as conversion kits. They could be installed in just about any cabinet.

In general though, I installed Altered Beast in Williams cabinets and Golden Axe in Nintendo cabinets.

[david656]

lol trust me to make taht mistake!!

so what sort of williams cabinets did you put altered beast in?

thanks for that btw

see i want to make a really good dedicated altered beast cab, and maybe have a altered beast control panel and a MAME control panel so i can play loads of cool games on it 

[david656]

i was looking at a cab like the one on the right here on this site

http://www.coinop.org/g.aspx/100442/Altered_Beast.html

[Crowquill]

That looks like a Robotron cab. If you look over at Jakobud.com, probably the closest match to that one is Moon Patrol. Other Williams cabs on there are Defender or Stargate. If you want to see more examples of the Moon Patrol cab, take a look at Joust cabs too. I'm thinking they're the same except width.

Ken--the Williams makes sense, but is there any reason to put Golden Axe in a Nintendo cab? I know most of the Shinobis I played were in Williams cabs.

[david656]

thank you thank you thank you thank you 

MOON PATROL is the shape i want! your right in saying it was a robertron thou so thanks for giving me both options.

but the sides on moon patrol are much more square to shape and thats what i was looking for.

any idea's on building one of these things where i would get some blue prints???

thank you again!

[Crowquill]

I think your enthusiasm is getting the better of you.

As mentioned before, www.jakobud.com is a site that provides free, downloadable plans for cabinets.

While it really doesn't have much to do with the cabinets, you might read a bit about Sega's System-16 hardware that Altered Beast ran on. It was quite popular and Sega used it for many games (such as the ones I've mentioned). A good source of info is here:

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=701

If you're making this a multi-game cab you might want to widen the cabinet a bit. Most fighting game cabinets were 24-26 inches wide between the sides. You probably want enough room for two people to comfortably play.

[david656]

your right im overwelmed with excitment!!!!

i spoke to Mr. Dando a mate of mine and he said "you know what me and another mate was chatting saying how much we would like to make a arcade machine" so i cracked a deal, i would sort out all the innereds for him if he would help with the building of the cab.

so im starting in 2 and a bit weeks

and will end up with a nice upright and 2 cocktail's

any idea's for cocktails so i can give them something to work on


thanks again

[shardian]

http://www.mikesarcade.com/arcade/cabplans.html

please don't let your head explode all over that nice pc you are using.

[david656]

huh!!! ooooo i bin on taht site again because i found it once and discarded it as altered beast was not mentioned 

but got them downloaded amazed at .EPS? converted them all to .PDF quality stuff cannot wait

[david656]

latest update.

i have got the design i want with thanks to you guy's on taht one.

given the design to my mate who is going to sort out all the wood . BUT do i use ply or MDF thickness 0.75".

and i also managed to get them some cocktail designs so its all good im going to go out and get som e brasso on my to be screen as there is a hair line scratch that go's straight down the middle.

im so excitted teh Crystal Maze was just holding me back now theres no stoping me muaha ha ha ha ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmao!


cheers

[Crowquill]

Is anyone else starting to get scared? Are you really david666 in disguise? 

[david656]

lmao nah muah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH lol JOKE 

put brasso on monitor screen EEK there is now a different colour patch in the middle of the screen where the brasso was rubbed in great tip taht was just ruined my monitor! 

so eny of u guys no what i can do to rectify taht??

[david656]

ummm i'll say it again i got the alterd beast artwork as refined by ME so its not mazin but pritty good

anyone know somewhere i can get the artwork professional markquee bezel side art???

[shardian]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

I can barely understand what you are saying. Please say that you are not from the US, otherwise you might want to go back to school.

[SavannahLion]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

He read about it elsewhere on the forum.

[david656]

number one i AM a kid! im 15, 16 this year 

number two: im excited muched it up will now pay the price of having to either live with a like slightly off colour blob or look around for a 19" PC monitor, it was nearly impossible to find one in the fist place!

so im rounding up all my arcade parts and boxing them ready for my next school term as im going to be using the workshops of my school after school, so i have acess to all the stuff i need to do it

wish me luck and any more advice or points for sorting out my screen???

[polaris]

was just about to say i bet he's a teenager ,none of  them can spell outside of a text message as its their primary form of communication , but some very clever people call it the progression of language so who are we oldies to say.
dave ,say goodbye to your tv mate.
im sure you can find a monitor somewhere cheap enough or even another tv but i appreciate your in school and probably skint, im sure i can find someone in bristol with an old monitor lying around got a few mates there, could you get a lift to pick one up off your parents if i found you one in bristol

[shardian]

Brasso on your monitor tube?!?

He read about it elsewhere on the forum.

Wish I would've seen this earlier. This came up about a year ago and the consensus was that a scratch on a crt is gonna stick around. You'll just eat off the antiglare coating by polishing it. If the scratch is deep enough, it can be dangerous.

Anyways, good luck on your project. And make sure to take a little time to type your thoughts out clearly so we can help you better. Spelling shortcuts are okay, I can even sometimes stomach lack of punctuation.

[polaris]

 I can even sometimes stomach lack of punctuation.

sorry to be pedantic but that should be 'the lack of punctuation'

and re the monitor, ive got a mate in bristol asking round , hes got one in work but wont see his boss until the morning so i'll let you know

[Fozzy The Bear]

Wish I would've seen this earlier. This came up about a year ago and the consensus was that a scratch on a crt is gonna stick around. You'll just eat off the antiglare coating by polishing it. If the scratch is deep enough, it can be dangerous.

Not just the anti glare, but the anti static coating as well.... anybody who fancies a shock every time they play a game is welcome to try this stupid trick. Whoever gave him this suggestion needs a kick up the rear.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[steveh]

I am glad i read this thread before i used the directions in the other thread.

[david656]

guys WOW thanks for the support here

can this monitor be that unstable now? the scratch wasn't deep although you could see and feel it but like i say im sure now i have rubbed of the anti glare because its shinney and from angle more reflective but i haven't electricuted myself on it yet!

im in hanham/kingswood btw.

i always hated txt talk but its catchy but i never use txts hate them!

umm im never mega skint money turns up im doing a few jobs soon so can rasie up some money for the shell to be made, give our schools Tec technician he is going away over easter and checking they have big enough panels of wood for the job as i gave him the plans and if not is going to sort it out and he is going to get it all sorted for next term.

sorry i haven't got back in a day or so, my grans on holiday so i have been round there on all my old PC's in her garage so not at home atall!

umm........

if you can get me a monitor 19" tahts amazing 

yeh i mean im new to all this stuff, im a computer wiz thou  all my family and mates rely on me for that but monitors as u can see im not hot on 

i was like up till 1am yesterday having a go at DOS 6 with mame im getting the jist of getting mame to load a game but i was mising files i had at home but not at my grans so couldn't actually start a game

right well im off to update my site so it actually works since the bodge up job i did on it last time 
 

but if my laptop keeps up as it is its going to never turn on again thank god for the powerful desktop WOWOW ...... which doesn't have frontpage but laptop does !!!!!!

[polaris]

not heard anything yet , but the guy i spoke to works so close to you ,you could carry one home, fingers crossed.

[david656]

lol why where does this guy work?

[polaris]

cant remember exactly i just know you turn off the ring road at the new cheltenham turn off , which looks quite close to you , hopefuly ill be drinking heavily with him tomorrow so he should have an answer for me.

[polaris]

btw way if your a wiz with computers have a look at the problem ive posted in the software and main forum with slightly different explanations
software
main
see if you can work that out

[SavannahLion]

yeh i mean im new to all this stuff, im a computer wiz thou  all my family and mates rely on me for that but....

 

Sorry, nothing against you. I always think that's amusing when people say that.

You're going to regret it in a few years. I used to do that and it got to the point where everybody expected me to fix their PC either free or on the cheap (usually free). It's OK when you're still learning, but when you eventually have to make a living, it doesn't work out. I did it for a bit longer on the premise that I would build a "potential job network". I was slow to realize that if any of those ---uvulas--- actually knew someone that could land me a job they wouldn't be coming to me for PC work, they'd be going to them.

It's a bit like moving to Hollywood in the hopes you can land that acting job or to get your killer movie script accepted. People have done it, but not enough to make the effort really worth while.

Nowadays, when most people ask me to fix their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, I tell them I don't work on anything other than CP/M.

[RayB]

i always hated txt talk but its catchy but i never use txts hate them!

umm im never mega skint money turns up im doing a few jobs soon so can rasie up some money for the shell to be made, give our schools Tec technician he is going away over easter and checking they have big enough panels of wood for the job as i gave him the plans and if not is going to sort it out and he is going to get it all sorted for next term.

sorry i haven't got back in a day or so, my grans on holiday so i have been round there on all my old PC's in her garage so not at home atall

Sorry, I don't mean any offense, but when I read this part, I couldn't help but think...

"yeh but yer but no but ..."

 

[david656]

yeh i make money out of some people but i never ever want to rip people off so if it takes me a week to do it i only ask £10 MAX.

ummm there are idiots taht abuse my 'talent' LOL but i don't mind as long as im increasing my knowledge.

and  the next one yeh we all yer buts no buts down y'ere!!!!


back to subject in hand!

im using a very very old PC for my arcade machine, this is because it has ISA slots and therefore can support my very old ISA soundcard which i must say is amazing for all the old DOS games.

Duke Nukem 3D, Stonekeep, and a few other classics.

and the point is i just decided to take the fan off the processor for some reason and now when u first turn teh computer on it sort of makes a very loud noise! it quiets down after a while but i just wonder why it does this?

[Fozzy The Bear]

and the point is i just decided to take the fan off the processor for some reason and now when u first turn teh computer on it sort of makes a very loud noise! it quiets down after a while but i just wonder why it does this?

Dead power supply fan bearings...... I have one that does that, and has been doing it for two years. The only reason I haven't fixed it is because I just can't be bothered. You could strip it down and change the fan or fans out in the power supply and it will shut up.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

hummmm let me just make sure we on the same lines

its a old pc, i took fan off, put it back on, rattles, went to my local maplins and because the pc is so frikin old the processor fan is not made!?!?!?!?!?!?

its a pentium MMX technology !!!! its funny because you look at the heatsinks on the new PC's then u look at this and i just wondered wheither i should just unplug the fan and take it off??

the power suply fan is fine btw

[Fozzy The Bear]

i just wondered wheither i should just unplug the fan and take it off??

NO! if your processor was designed to run with a fan then it needs it to keep cool....  Only really the P2 and earlier without a fan installed at the design stage are OK to run without one.

You can easily fudge a processor fan onto most heat syncs.... Have you got a good picture of the fan type??

You should be able to get a small 12V fan and just figure out how to screw it on there.

BTW.. I'm not too far away from you... Down in Cornwall.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

humm i will get some pictures up soon of it

but yeh its like a 4-6cm square fan.

todays fans too big, chipset fans a little too small

[polaris]

forgot to mention fozzy to you dave, listen to the man ,he knows.
youll be pleased to know that he works in one of those arcade things youve heard us old people talk about.

[david656]

lol cooooll

there nearest thing to a arcade is the arcade in the local bowling alley

all high tech HOTD etc

[david656]

right

for the artwork is there enywhere professional i can go to get sorted in school we got a A2 printer

[polaris]

what artwork specifically, side, bezel,cp ,marquee?

[david656]

side, bezel,cp ,marquee

[polaris]

google you lazy bastard,
side art
scott
scott i believe is well known here for good work, dont be put off ordering from usa , i believe the exchange rate favours the uk

[Fozzy The Bear]

there nearest thing to a arcade is the arcade in the local bowling alley
all high tech HOTD etc

ROFL  Most arcades are like that now I'm afraid to say..... It's going to be a very long time before current games are emulated on a PC.  Actually that may be a little wrong to say that, because most current arcade machines actually are PC's..... It'd only require the software "cracking" to get it run on a machine at home.

HOTD isn't really high tech at all.... HOTD1 and 2 run on quite primative SEGA hardware.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

OMG i hate this fing

[david656]

wtf

[polaris]

whats the problem?

[rovingmind]

maybe he's never seen the original machine?

[david656]

ok a recap there i tried 4 times and it kept failing!!!

but what do you think? i know its not exact but not bad for a 15 year old?

[david656]

by the way all of these have been done from like photo's and re-shaping then etc take a long old time and no i have never in my life a altered beast machine in the person! so i am just guessing from photos

hope you like them

[david656]

ummm oh yeh ....... has enyone got a copy of the original manual either in paper form that they might like to sell or in .PDF cheers 

[Fozzy The Bear]

ummm oh yeh ....... has enyone got a copy of the original manual either in paper form that they might like to sell or in .PDF cheers 

Always worth checking arcade archive before you ask a question like this.

http://arcarc.xmission.com

The manual you want is at:

http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Manuals_and_Schematics/Altered%20Beast.pdf

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

wow

u du man!!

i bin looking for that!!

thanks

is anyone gunna comment on my attemps? of artwork?

[rovingmind]

Hey, as long as your happy with it right?  After all you are your own customer on this one.
Your probably doing better than i could at it.

by the way all of these have been done from like photo's and re-shaping then etc take a long old time and no i have never in my life a altered beast machine in the person! so i am just guessing from photos

hope you like them

[Fozzy The Bear]

is anyone gunna comment on my attemps? of artwork?

Looks pretty good to me.....  If you're happy with it then it's OK.

I've got the original artwork if you want it?

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

is anyone gunna comment on my attemps? of artwork?

Looks pretty good to me.....  If you're happy with it then it's OK.

I've got the original artwork if you want it?

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

WOW yes!!!

do you mean like good images on your pc or the ACTUAL originals or replica's?

how much do you want? whats the situation?

thanks a lot for mentioning that

im off down weston-super-mare today with a few mates so im out but yeh that sounds great

[Fozzy The Bear]

is anyone gunna comment on my attemps? of artwork?

Looks pretty good to me.....  If you're happy with it then it's OK.

I've got the original artwork if you want it?

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

WOW yes!!!

do you mean like good images on your pc or the ACTUAL originals or replica's?

how much do you want? whats the situation?

thanks a lot for mentioning that

im off down weston-super-mare today with a few mates so im out but yeh that sounds great

I mean I'll compress the artwork files and send them to you..... PM me.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

hi Fozzy The Bear

you managed to get taht artwork sorted yet?

OMG right the wood down the local B&Q is 18mm and £35.38 a sheet ! (big sheet but only enough for one side panel with some left over). !!!!!!!!!11

i need 3/4" not 18mm !  i need 19.05mm

where am i going to get taht CHEAP !

[polaris]

dont buy stuff from b+q , stupidly expensive.
try and find a sawmill or wood suppliers, must be one in bristol , ill see what i can find

[david656]

yeh tahts what i thought B&Q are pants everything is OTT on the prices i mean if i used B&Q just to get 2 sides your looking at £70 then with all teh base wood and internal shelf and back etc your going to be up near £200 !!!

in kingswood//on the outskirts theres a wood place been in there a few times with my dad, i know they do beading skirting etc but not sure about big sheets

hummm wil have to investigate ... it anoyes me this technology technician was ment to be getting on the phone for me but been waiting easily a month now he keeps making excuses ARGHH and he recons he could get it cheaper than taht as well !

can you still get 3/4" wood?

[Fozzy The Bear]

you managed to get taht artwork sorted yet?

Yes David.... I've been a bit busy for the last couple of weeks.... I'll sort your artwork and mail it to you later tonight.

As for your MDF..... You won't get 3/4" easily or cheaply anywhere in the UK. The 18mm is the closest you will be able to get. Try small builders merchants that deal in timber, they will usually have it for half the price that B&Q do it for.  It is in fact "18mm nominal" which means it can vary between about 17mm and 19mm thick.  It's exactly what you would get if you bought 3/4".  1mm will make no difference at all to your cabinet. and the T-Molding fits it fine.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

cool that clears things up thats wat i was worried about  T-Moulding

so get down the timber place and see what they do


cheers


who likes the song

Walking In Memphis - Marc Cohn

[polaris]

who likes the song

Walking In Memphis - Marc Cohn

i dont, why?

[david656]

cus its a good song but enyway dumb di dumb

[david656]

righty !

now as well as this alter beast cab being mame and playing lots of games through my AMAZING TINY PC (as in the brand tiny !) i would like to rig it up like a actual arcade machine.

so to fit it out with all the arcade machine gear what do i need i mean i have a power suply taht i think works taht came out of a Crystal Maze Cab some one gave me and got a few other transformers out of it and i was told before the guy ripped it up it was totaly working

so all i need to know is what parts go in a arcade machine ! i have noooo idea after all i have never got the chance to look inside one

got to sit in a car worth a million pound thou !

[SavannahLion]

If I understand your goal there.

That Tiny (Is that a generic brand, like GQ?)PC has nearly everything you need to install it in your AB cab. Don't use the power supply from Crystal Maze with it, you'll only experience heartache. Keep it for another project or sell it off, whatever you want to do.

You can leave the PC as-is and install. Locate a KeyWiz or IPAC2 and wire it into your buttons/joystick. I don't remember if you're using an arcade monitor or using a PC monitor or TV. Depending on the monitor you have and the Video card currently in your possession, you have several choices before you.

[david656]

yh your correct there

so just to state again !

my beuty of a 'Tiny' (make) is all ready and geared up to go i got the keyboard to buttons box as well but the one i got isn't brilliant gunna get a iPac eventually but not till the machine is actually going !

i was going to rig it up so it could be used a s a actual proper jamma cab to need advise on this thou

im going to wack a few shelfs in the machine thou for my sega, PS2, and other bits and bobs i got floating about !

i want to make this a dedicated Altered Beast cab but the innereds will be able to with hold anything i chuck at it PS2 old console, MAME etc but the outside will be definate Altered beast replica

[david656]

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 

PC crashed lost all my stuff !!!! crap i had it all compiled in a zip and everything

loar 109gb of stuff  music vids arcade downloads GONE

 

[SavannahLion]

PC crashed lost all my stuff !!!! crap i had it all compiled in a zip and everything

loar 109gb of stuff  music vids arcade downloads GONE

Terribly sorry to hear your PC crashed. My main PC has been dead for months. To add insult to injury, I was using a non-mainstream file system that now has a questionable future. So once I get my PC back, I have to go through the very tedious process of manually copying every file to a more mainstream file system and still preserve all the important bits of information relating to those files. In the mean time, if I reallly need to access something, I have to use my laptop and jury rig the drive to it. An immense mess of wires.

Anyhow, I digress. This is a good example to the value of backing up your data. Especially important stuff.

Second, in many situations, the actual data from a... PC crash is recoverable. As long as you didn't reinstall your operating system, you can utilize a number of tools to, at the very minimum, recover your project. If you already reinstalled... then you're back to the drawing board.

[david656]

well it crashed!

assumed by data files will be left alone taht ment all my files and compaq recovered to find it sed 108gb of stuff but all my docs gone and no answer to what was this mass !!!!

so though stuff it and wiped totaly !

anoying thou

you no got home turnt on 'blue screen of death' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no idea what caused it would of obviously backed up all my stuff after crash if i would of known that it wouldn't pf saved my files     i would still have them tooooo   


sowat caused it ... i dunno what lost my files.... me ! but hey ho had some OLD back ups!!

but lost my entire iTunes

[SavannahLion]

It's standard for "worst case scenarios" to simply go in and wipe everything out and start over fresh. One of the driving reasons why I went out and bought a second hard drive. If you make it a habit to always put your data on the second drive, it has a far better chance of surviving a meltdown. It's only until recently that I grew lazy and opted not to create a similar configuration with the laptop. I suppose I'll pay for that one day. 

I did, however, buy an external drive enclosure and use it to dump ridiculously large files.

Take it from someone whose tried all sorts of backup methods. Save up a little cash and buy a second hard drive. To make things simpler, buy an external USB 2 drive.

It's probably not any consolation, but I used to get BSoD's all the time. During the Windows 95/98 years I was writing some custom software for myself involving some convoluted memory management and I got an error screen that looked like the one below. Wasn't fun trying to figure that one out.

[david656]

:-O !!!!!!!!

Windows 98se is THE BEST ! has to be about the most usable operating system from widoze i upgraded ny arcade PC to Me because i remember having it on a pc from like PC World and remebered it played all my nice games 'ok' turns on all the music clicks starts DONK ! so scrapped Me!!!

and here is a dumb reply from our local 'timber supplies'

____________________________________________________________

Thank you for the enquiry.

Prices are as follows

18mm  Mdf  £19.01 per sheet
18mm Hardwood Ply  £28.55 per sheet
50p per cut

PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO VAT.

Regards
Sacha

-----Original Message-----
From: David Little [mailto:davidlittle_15@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 17 May 2007 23:39
To: sales@timbersupplies.co.uk
Subject: Help on sizes

hi

i will over the next fre weeks being doing a project involving 3/4"
plywood/MDF. obvioulsy everything is metric now but it HAS to be 3/4 inch.

would you be able to cut 2 sheets of 3/4 Ply/MDF and at what sort of sizes
and prices

thanks

_____________________________________________________________________________

work it out on a caculator 0.75" x 2.54cm x 10 ======== 19.05mm ! NOT 18 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGHHHHH you would think i made it clear really but obviously NOT !


would like some comments on this

[shardian]

What the hell language are you speaking?!?

[david656]

ok yeh there are a lot of mistakes there but you get the gist of it

[shardian]

No, not really. I just get a headache.

[david656]

! ! LOL ! !

well i got to go 'own blukbuster so be 'bk in a bit

[SavannahLion]

work it out on a caculator 0.75" x 2.54cm x 10 ======== 19.05mm ! NOT 18 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGHHHHH you would think i made it clear really but obviously NOT !


would like some comments on this

Even in the U.S. 3/4" sheet wood refers to nominal measurements. In reality, 3/4" wood is rarely ever truly 3/4" it's probably closer to 23/32" which is somewhere between 18mm and 19mm. For the purposes of building a cabinet, I believe 18mm is the correct sheet to use. You'll have to compensate in some of your measurements.

What the hell language are you speaking?!?

I used to moderate a vide game forum and I used to deal with that all the time. Just pick out what you actually understand and ignore the rest.

[david656]

so in other words go with 18mm

but what about t-moulding?

[Fozzy The Bear]

so in other words go with 18mm

but what about t-moulding?

I already answered this for you, in fact so did several other people.  Try reading the replies you get.

3/4" T-Molding is fine on 18mm MDF.

BTW... did you get the artwork I sent you. You never replied, so I can only assume that you didn't.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[david656]

no i didn't get the artwork 

any chance of sending it again?

thanks a lot for your help, now my actual tech teacher is letting us embark on our 'major project' so can now get going i hope !

davidlittle_15@hotmail.co.uk

[shardian]

no i didn't get the artwork 

any chance of sending it again?

thanks a lot for your help, now my actual tech teacher is letting us embark on our 'major project' so can now get going i hope !

davidlittle_15@hotmail.co.uk

Posting your email as a clickable link in an online forum is never a good idea. BTW, that was the first post of yours that I have understood every word. Congrats on that!

[david656]

righty, had a bit of a slagging off match with my tec teacher as he i am not alowed to build it so i will have to find another way of doin it.

ok
i got a nice new MoBo E139761 AA 681533-312 DELL REV. A02               BUT it dun't work !

any idea's when the atx to MoBo power is half connected hanging in a way it actually powers !!! but obviously dangerous and not working properly.

any idea's the PSU to MoBo has pin 18 missing and the MoBo has pin 19 missing !!!! wierd

really need your help on this one

btw its a Pentium II with MMX technology

[david656]

a little help anyone :DDDDD

i need to get this MoBo going it works sort off read last post

[shardian]

If all you are working with is a pentium 2, here is the best way to fix it:

1) take sledgehammer to existing mobo
2) After feeling better, throw pieces in garbage
3) Go to nearest resell shop and buy ENTIRE pentium 2 pc for next to nothing
4) come home
5) install your software and be done

[david656]

:-O


noooooooooooooooooooo never

its a nice looking board pentium 2 with

2x ISA slots
3x PCI slots
1x AGP slot
and wait for it..........................  no pins to conect a on button !

any one have a nice enviromently friendly way of fixing this

[shardian]

any one have a nice enviromently friendly way of fixing this

No problem:
Insert the following addendum steps after sledgehammering as follows:
1a) Use soldering iron, pliers, and other specialty tools to reduce entire board to its elemental components.
1b) take separated piles to recycling plant.

[SavannahLion]

i got a nice new MoBo E139761 AA 681533-312 DELL REV. A02               BUT it dun't work !

<SNIP>

any idea's the PSU to MoBo has pin 18 missing and the MoBo has pin 19 missing !!!! wierd

and wait for it..........................  no pins to conect a on button !

The problem is it's a DELL.

For some years (not sure if yours falls in this range) DELL used a proprietary power supply that was not compatible with standard PSU's. In fact, plugging in a standard ATX power supply resulted in a dead motherboard, period. As far as I know, DELL motherboards are usually still are not compatible with ATX supplies, but the incompatibility is not as risky or dangerous. It is a nightmare working with these boards.

You see no pins for a power button for the exact same reason. DELL typically uses a proprietary daughter board that houses lights, power and reset with a funky cable. It is not compatible with standard ATX case wiring. You might find the daughter card on eBay.

I'm all for the preservation of hardware, but DELL's fall into a rare class of hardware I would rather see destroyed than preserved. The level of proprietary hardware manufactures like DELL, Compaq, and others employ often border on insane and maddening. If you come across their parts, scavange what you can, destroy the rest, then buy a complete PC on the cheap. Or better yet, put one together using standard components.

[david656]

humm
 i detest DELL but i got this board at a carboot and wait for it a £1 people a £1 had to get it !!

i might check ebay see if they have something of a similar spec

[DaOld Man]

Check out this site. Sometimes they have real good deals on re-furbished PC's.
http://directron.com/systems.html
I agree with the other posts, SC the dell...

[david656]

WoW

my school was having a clear out and i got boxes of stuff for FREE !!!!

6 Floppy drives
3 CD-ROM drives
LOADS of ISA and PCI cards, some SERIAL and PARRALEL, as well as some 16bit SOUND BLASTERS !!!!!
got 2 AGP VIDEO cards
a Mini-ATX board that i think works im not sure yet got to test it
2 PC's, one worked after a few scans and runns PERFECT Windows 98, the other a nice small one but DEAD, teh PSU is a AT without the switch, soo anyone know where i can get a replacement for that
a bag of IDE cables
a few ATX PSU's and a few small PSU's that i think fits ITX cases (not sure)
oh and a AMAZING RM NB200 LAPTOP from teh 80's ! although have been fiddling and it powers up and gets to disk boot faliure so just a matter of sorting out the HDD !!!!

not bad for free !!!!

SO

any idea's on teh AT PSU problem, btw when you connect a AT PSU with switch and force power into it the lights do come on !!! so either its a dodgy PSU OR teh switch could be playing up, help needed !

any idea's???

[david656]

ok this post is back from the dead !

i have been playing with mame and arcade os and have a HDD with MAME and arcade os working fine on it with about 4 games.

i have been to maplins bought some switches and bits amd bobs.

i have started my tech GCSE work on it all, i am creating 2 folders of work

'Product Study' and 'Making the Product'

i have started to write up stuff and its starting to look good i will post some of it shortly as i want to make a GREAT arcade machine and get a GREAT mark !!

[david656]

thres the first bit i have done, not brilliant but a start i guess

[Disturbed013]

Best of luck with your project David!

After reading your plans, I have some suggestions.  You stated:

"One thing I will have to incorporate into my design will be a little control strip on the front of the cabinet that holds, Light switch, PC power button, PC reset button, Volume switch. I will do this because I want to emulate a real arcade machine as much as possible..."

A real arcade machine doesn't have a control strip on the front, and yours does not have to either.  Search through these forums for the Bits Ltd. strip, or "one button solution".  The Bits Ltd. strip is made in UK I believe, so you should have no trouble finding that.  You'll also find plans to add a relay to a power strip and effectively end up with the same thing.  One switch powers up everything in your cab-PC, Lights, Speakers, and Monitor.  Mount your switch on the top or back of the cab where it belongs, and follow the other suggestions you'll find in here to auto load your front end and hide windows, and you will be very very close to a "real arcade" machine.

The second suggestion I have is for you to pick up a copy of Saints book to assist you in your research.  You mentioned using the internet and picking peoples brains, but having the book will round out your research, provide you loads of information on the hows & whys + some history, and will give you another source to add to your bibliography.

Again, good luck, and keep studying here too.

D13

[david656]

thanks a lot Disturbed013

thanks for taking time out to have a little read that means a lot to me.

saints book?? is taht a book you buy and where from?

yeh that book will really help becuase the internet is very clicky when you as for something and it gives you something else, at least with a dedicated book you know you will get pure useful facts.

i might pop down the libary and get out some games history books and even arcade history if they do them

thanks again

[xmenxmen]

saints book?? is taht a book you buy and where from?

http://www.amazon.com/Project-Arcade-Build-Your-Machine/dp/0764556169