Is this possible or just really expensive?

[TexFlood]

I'm looking in to the possibilities of adding all LED bling with a LED-Wiz to a 4 player CP and I was curious if this has been done:

A 4 player CP with 7 buttons for players 1 & 2 and 4 buttons for players 3 & 4.  So 22 buttons for the players, that means I need 22 Electric Ice buttons which means 66 LED-Wiz inputs for RGB or 3 LED-Wiz boards?  That would give me some left over for the player 1-4 buttons and 4 credit buttons.  I know this will get a bit on the expensive side but has this ever been attempted?  I've been searching for LED-Wiz on here but it seems to be all 1 & 2 player control panels...

I almost fear the responses to this if it is possible...

[Chris G]

Check out Timoe's CP in the Database - reply #16.

[TexFlood]

Thanks for the link Chris. 

I read through Timoe's blog entries and I definitely am interested in what he is doing.  But it looks like he is just using simple light up buttons for his controls, not the RGB capabilities that give you the multi colored effects.  I think Timoe's setup could all be done with a single LED-Wiz board, right?
There's no blinky-blink...

[fjl]

Far as I know, each LED-Wiz has 32 outputs and each could be used for a single LED so basically you can use 32 LED's with one LEd-Wiz. But if you want to use the color changing LED drives, then it requires three outputs from the LED-wiz. 32 outputs divided by 3 equals 10.6 or basically 10. This means you can only use 10 color changing LED drives per wiz board.

Of course I could be completely wrong as I am just remembering what I recall having read about the LED-Wiz boards a few weeks back.

[TexFlood]

Exactly what I was thinking, you could do 10 RGB connections and 2 single color buttons per LED-Wiz. 

I should have included links in my last post, to help explain where I'm coming from.

Here Timoe's CP:

http://timoe.blogspot.com/

and Arzoo's 4 Player CP (pics are down a bit in the thread - if you read this Arzoo, I really like the placement of your buttons on the vertical partition):

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=64221.0

Arzoo has the LED buttons for Players 1 & 2, I'm talking about expanding this to include Players 3 & 4 (with 4 buttons for Players 3 & 4).  So 22 buttons for just Players 1 - 4 buttons.

It just seems like you would have to have 3 LED-Wiz's to do this.  Then will this allow you to set up the attract mode, lit buttons for each particular game, etc?

[Chris G]

That's right - you'll have to string together multiple LED-Wiz's to do a ton of buttons.  I'm sure Kaytrim will be on here any minute to give us the full deets. 

Chris

[Kaytrim]

Chris was right 

I'm around and here is the low down on your options.  First what you have been told as to the limits of the LEDWiz contacts are correct (32).  You can have 10 separate RGB LEDs connected to each Wiz.  One thing to think about is mutiple LEDs per each contact.  For example you can have P1B1, P2B1, P3B1 & P4B1 on the same 3 contacts.  You can continue this train of thought for all the action buttons for the players.  Then have the player coin and start buttons connected the same way.  Doing this will allow you to have room for 1 additional RGB LED connection or 5 total free contacts on one LEDWiz.

If you want each button to be individually controlled then you will need a total of 3 LEDWiz controllers.    When you order from GGG you need to order separate USB device numbers so they can be controlled properly.  Randy has this already setup on his product pages, but you will need to add each controller to you shopping cart individually.

One thing to keep in mind.  USB only supplies 500ma of power.  Each LED uses on average of 20ma, RGB LEDs use around 60ma each.  The power supplied by the LEDWiz will not be enough.  There is a contact on the LEDWiz for external 5v power.  You can get this directly off the PC power supply and be OK.

That should be enough to chew on for now.

TTFN 
Kaytrim


*After re-reading the information above I made some corrections.

[Chris G]

So the full answer to your original question in the subject line is... both.