Top 10 Mame mistakes that keep getting copied from one machine to another.

[BobA]

 The Saint is the Man

His word doth rule.

[polaris]

They were not angled.

sorry to be pedantic but 90 degrees is an angle isnt it , i seem to remember in school that we called them 'right angles' but hey again that was 20 yrs ago maybe my memory's not so good 
is it only bad to have a 45 degree angle ,anyone tried 90 degrees or not angled as people are calling it 

[CheffoJeffo]

sorry to be pedantic but 90 degrees is an angle isnt it , i seem to remember in school that we called them 'right angles' but hey again that was 20 yrs ago maybe my memory's not so good 
is it only bad to have a 45 degree angle ,anyone tried 90 degrees or not angled as people are calling it 

UP on P1 and P4 was still UP, wasn't it ?

[polaris]

sorry to be pedantic but 90 degrees is an angle isnt it , i seem to remember in school that we called them 'right angles' but hey again that was 20 yrs ago maybe my memory's not so good 
is it only bad to have a 45 degree angle ,anyone tried 90 degrees or not angled as people are calling it 

UP on P1 and P4 was still UP, wasn't it ?

sorry was heavy on the sarcasm there.
dude i wish i could remember how gauntlet was and have only been trying to research my project and how to orientate my sticks. in would make more sense IN MY OPINION  to mount the stick so that up was away from the player ,in the spirit of these forums i should shut up get some sticks build a panel post the project and let people know how i feel it works. with that, thats me told.

[CheffoJeffo]

sorry was heavy on the sarcasm there.
dude i wish i could remember how gauntlet was and have only been trying to research my project and how to orientate my sticks. in would make more sense IN MY OPINION  to mount the stick so that up was away from the player ,in the spirit of these forums i should shut up get some sticks build a panel post the project and let people know how i feel it works. with that, thats me told.

It was an honest question, I remember UP being UP (towards the screen), but that doesn't mean it was so ...

[polaris]

hey cheffojeffo
i was referring to me being sarcastic about the angles ,hope i didnt sound like i was having a pop at you, apologise if i did.
its really bugging me i can remember the arcade gauntlet was in, where it was in the arcade ,i have this image in my mind im there playing it and i still cant bloody remember how they were.
we differ in our opinion but stand united in the fact we just cant remember for sure

[CheffoJeffo]

hey cheffojeffo
i was referring to me being sarcastic about the angles ,hope i didnt sound like i was having a pop at you, apologise if i did.

If you were, then more power to you (you're likely to get some applause) !!

Not taking any offense in any event.

Cheers.

[DrewKaree]

hey cheffojeffo
i was referring to me being sarcastic about the angles ,hope i didnt sound like i was having a pop at you, apologise if i did.

If you were, then more power to you (you're likely to get some applause) !!

Not taking any offense in any event.

Cheers.

Polaris, you want I should take a few shots at him fer ya?  I heard some things about his mom I can throw out there...she limps and whatnot.  You just say the word and ....hey Cheffo, put that brick down! 


RUUUUUUUNNNNNN!

[CheffoJeffo]

C'mon Drew ... throwing bricks is so juvenile ... and I don't have any ... I throw cabs (but only those with internal frames, notches or tiny monitors).

 

[polaris]

(you're likely to get some applause) !!

in which case i withdraw my apology
 cheers drew n cheffo good to know who i can have some friendly banter with whilst i pull my hair out trying to decide on my plans, so many good ideas round here its frustrating

[KenToad]

Hey Drew and Cheffo, don't gang up on BTP ... can't remember his name ... that's not cool.  Let him make his Dreamcast cabinet and be happy.  He's certainly not the first and won't be the last. 

I'll try to respond to this thread later, but I have to say that I didn't make any of these mistakes. 

[vrf]

Hey Drew and Cheffo, don't gang up on BTP ... can't remember his name ... that's not cool.  Let him make his Dreamcast cabinet and be happy.  He's certainly not the first and won't be the last.

I agree. Pissing on other people's projects because YOU wouldn't do a similiar project is about as lame as it gets.

Now, if he used a tiny monitor.... that's another story. 

[ArcadeMaze]

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[CheffoJeffo]

Hey Drew and Cheffo, don't gang up on BTP ... can't remember his name ... that's not cool.  Let him make his Dreamcast cabinet and be happy.  He's certainly not the first and won't be the last.

I agree. Pissing on other people's projects because YOU wouldn't do a similiar project is about as lame as it gets.

Now, if he used a tiny monitor.... that's another story. 

WTF ?

KenToad or vrf, please show me where I pissed on his project (OK, the casters you have me on, but I really do think they are a waste of time).

I pissed on his obnoxious "thought so" attitude, sure enough, but I never mentionned cab design except to say that I *HAVE* a Dreamcast in a cab.

Cheers.

[vrf]

I actually only read through Drew's little rant, so sorry to lump you in with that.

[CheffoJeffo]

I actually only read through Drew's little rant, so sorry to lump you in with that.

Did you read gt$%$'s rants ? THAT is about as lame as it gets (and his bone of contention seems to be the Dreamcast in the cab, which isn't relevant in a thread about MAME cabs anyway).

Do we just assume that, simply because two members have higher post counts and that they both disagree with the same crappy "thought so" attitude that they are meeting behind closed doors, wearing funny hats with secret handshakes and planning to gang up on innocent newbs ? Or, does the dufus simply deserve a response ?

C'mon, people. RTFT.

Cheers

[KenToad]

Is btp2k2=tranq ?

• Smart@$$ ("Thought so" ? Don't be a clown.)
• Certainty of being correct with everybody else is incorrect
• Responses ignore points being responded to (e.g. DK was pretty clear about things that you were actually given)
• Babbling ... not quite there yet, but ...

Hmmm ...

I guess the first pissing would be accusing him of being someone else, unless you have proof.   

Don't get me wrong.  I respect you and Drew and would listen to you both for good advice, but I think you guys jumped on the new guy for building a Dreamcast cabinet, which is not really unheard of around here.  On top of that, you call him a smart-whatever and accuse him of nearly babbling, like you're his superior or something.  I have to say that Drew was a little Right Said Fred in this case.  His initial comments certainly could have come off a little friendlier, especially since we're not in EE right now and we're dealing with sensitive issues, like people's dreams of building and designing something they will love for many years to come.  It is funny that Drew can come off so hard without showing any of his own cabinet building ingenuity actually in practice.    

(Remember, Drew, I already said that I respect you, and I do.) 

This post is not meant to create enmity. 

[bfauska]

Do we just assume that, simply because two members have higher post counts and that they both disagree with the same crappy "thought so" attitude that they are meeting behind closed doors, wearing funny hats with secret handshakes and planning to gang up on innocent newbs ?

I don't know about everybody else, but I certainly thought you guys were meeting and handshaking in your funny hats.

I think that the A#1 mistake somebody can make is to do something in their design without knowing why they do it, the effects of doing it , or the other options to doing it.

Oh, yeah... and forgetting to bring and TAKE their salt grains while reading everybody else's posts. Those grains of salt are the things that keep this place sane, I think that this is one of the friendliest forums I have seen, I don't know where some people get the idea that the residents of this forum have forgotten that the hobby is about fun.  I enjoy the forum and the projects at least as much as playing the games.

Remember, if you know why YOU did something on YOUR cab, and you know what it gained you vs. what you sacrificed is a good balance, then you didn't' make any mistakes.

Later,
Brian

[KenToad]

Plus, it's a cheap way to add a fun cabinet to the game room.

Were you just putting this out there to see what it looked like?


You're buying a console, then building a couple-hundred-dollar cabinet to play something in a room that should already have a TV which you can connect a console to.....FOR FREE!

Which would be easier to move?  A console and a television, or a cabinet?

Console & TV = 1 person.
Cabinet = 1 person and a dolly, or 2 people.  Got a dolly handy?  If so, you just added to the cost of your "cheap" solution, if not, you've gotta ha......nevermind.  You've gotta be just looking for any reason to build a cab, and your wife bought that.

Just for clarity, this is the first Right Said Fred post, which probably came out of left field as far as BTP ... whatever ... was concerned.  It is Drew at his self-righteous best.  And it's silly to point out the impracticality of a cab like this, especially since this whole hobby basically reeks of impracticality. 

And I doubt PaigeOliver's comments are limited to cabs running Mame, as opposed to Raine or some other emulator or console games in general. 

Did you think the Dreamcast cab comment was inappropriate for the thread, Paige?

Did you read gt$%$'s rants ? THAT is about as lame as it gets (and his bone of contention seems to be the Dreamcast in the cab, which isn't relevant in a thread about MAME cabs anyway).

[Fozzy The Bear]

For F*&^% Sake!!!

Children....  It's like Handbags at dawn in here!!!

I disagree with nearly all of the top 10 list.... But at the end of the day the whole thing is about personal choice.

Now will you all stop mincing about in here and getting anti with each other. Put your damned handbags away.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[KenToad]

Fozzy,

That may be the first post where I see that you are clearly British.  Handbags at dawn?  Mincing?   

Seriously, though, I really do agree with most of Paige's comments.  I tried the gamepad thing myself.  I almost think it's a rite of passage for some of us.  I have several encoders from GGG now and would never look back.  Can't say I'm much for the newer fighters and console games, either, so no worries on my end.  I'll stick with PC emulators in cabs for now, at least until PSP's get cheap enough for me to consider them hackable ... would love to hook up a set of real arcade controls to that thing to replace the sucky D-pad.    

[CheffoJeffo]

I think you guys jumped on the new guy for building a Dreamcast cabinet, which is not really unheard of around here. 

Which part of:

*I* have a cabinet with a Dreamcast inside. I will have another one with a Dreamcast inside. (WTF are you dissing me about this ?)

would lead you to think that I was jumping on him for building a Dreamcast cab ?   

As for babbling, the point was that, while he doesn't babble like tranq did, he is on his way (I noticed that he ignored the fact that this was a thread about MAME cabs and also ignored what Drew said about items that actually were free, which were his only real objections).

My intention with "accusing" him of being somebody else was intended to be tongue-in-cheek and designed to make a point. As I seem to have failed to make that point clear -- he was an obnoxious @$$ the same way that tranq was.

And, to be clear, I am not taking any of this personally -- if I deserve a shot for what I posted, please take it and make it good (as I said, you'll get applause!).

Just make sure that it is on target for something that I actually said or did. I am not Paige and do not agree with everything that Paige said. I did not pick on anybody's designs or dreams. I thought that b2$% was throwing bad attitude (much the way you think I am) with his "thought so" crap and I called him on it. Nothing more complicated than that.

Cheers.

[KenToad]

Cheffo,

 

Deffo,

KenToad

And now on with the thread, the best I've seen in a while.  Leave it to Paige to come back and stir things up a bit.

How long have you been thinking about proposing this thread, Paige?

[paigeoliver]

A few weeks at least. 

[Fozzy The Bear]

A few weeks at least. 

I'll buy you a big wooden spoon for your birthday Paige.....

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[KenToad]

A few weeks at least. 

Well, it paid off, haven't seen a non-"product announcement" thread build up to over a hundred replies in less than 24 hours in a while.   

[CheffoJeffo]

Well, it paid off, haven't seen a non-"product announcement" thread build up to over a hundred replies in less than 24 hours in a while.   

At least not one that stayed out of PH ... that's the cue for me to shut up or Haruman's prediction will come true.

 

[FrizzleFried]

Rule #12...

Under NO circumstances are you to make create a "cabinet" as pictured below and attempt to sell it on ebay with a starting bid of $1,500 claiming others sell for over $3,000...

[SavannahLion]

Rule #12...

Under NO circumstances are you to make create a "cabinet" as pictured below and attempt to sell it on ebay with a starting bid of $1,500 claiming others sell for over $3,000...

I worship the intrinsic understanding you have of amusement at the expense of someone who is not here. 

[FrizzleFried]

Rule #12...

Under NO circumstances are you to make create a "cabinet" as pictured below and attempt to sell it on ebay with a starting bid of $1,500 claiming others sell for over $3,000...

I worship the intrinsic understanding you have of amusement at the expense of someone who is not here. 

As I worship the intimate misconception you have of light hearted humor at the expense of those who surround you.    

[zenmasterbooty]

Here are a few examples that prove #5 wrong.

[paigeoliver]

Um, none of those machines have angled joysticks. They might have the buttons places in different positions around the stick, but none of them have angled joysticks.

[paigeoliver]

Gauntlet. Look at the mounting bolts, they all face the same direction.

[SavannahLion]

Rule #12...

Under NO circumstances are you to make create a "cabinet" as pictured below and attempt to sell it on ebay with a starting bid of $1,500 claiming others sell for over $3,000...

I worship the intrinsic understanding you have of amusement at the expense of someone who is not here. 

As I worship the intimate misconception you have of light hearted humor at the expense of those who surround you.    

HEY! 

[paigeoliver]

Dark Legacy control panel. All the mounting bolts face the same way, and look at the arrows on the underlay.

[SavannahLion]

Gauntlet. Look at the mounting bolts, they all face the same direction.

But isn't the argument on that CP is the direction Thor and Questors controls are facing in relation to the screen? As in, whether UP is towards the screen or away from the edge 90 degrees relative from the screen.

[paigeoliver]

Up is the same direction on all 4 sticks. If you have any doubts then go ask one of the many Klov members who own the darn things.

Maximum hangtime. Note the arrows. Not angled.

[paigeoliver]

Here is the control panel diagram from the manual to Quartet. Note, not angled.

[paigeoliver]

I can't tell what that last game you posted is, so I can't produce a more clear picture of it. Looks like some newer form of Blitz or something, which do not have angled sticks.

[lcddream]

i guess the reason for an angle would be games like street fighter, when doing special moves, the control is not relative to the screen but relative to the player.