New Product: NovaGem CDR - Coin Drop Replacement Pushbutton

[RandyT]

Available from the store in a day or two:

I'd like to take full credit for the idea, but this one was inspired by a post made by Crowquill a few months ago.  However, the implementation, light source modification, artwork, etc. is all the work of GGG. 

If you don't have a coin door on your cabinet, then you need one or two of these babies!.  They are designed to look like the coin slots of the old days, but don't need coins to add credits.  Just press on the red translucent face.  The light source in these can be used with an LED-Wiz™ for animation purposes, or can be wired directly to the 5v line of your PC's power supply for constant on.

NOTE: It is virtually impossible to photograph the actual color of these.  I tried three cameras and none of them could handle the red properly.  The image above shows a yellow-orange light, but these things throw a deep, bright RED light.

Features:

• Specially designed to take advantage of the powerful output capabilities of the LED-Wiz™
• Ready-to-Use Illuminated "Coin-Drop" replacement.  No Soldering Required!
• Amazing light source.  Packs the intensity of 5 normal Superbright LED's inside each button!
• Wide angle of illumination evenly lights the entire face.
• Incredible Efficiency.  Virtually no heat compared to conventional lights.  Will last for many years with no bulbs to replace!
• Legend is printed on outdoor-grade, self adhesive vinyl with pigmented inks and is die-cut.  It won't fade or wrinkle.
• Pre-Attached,  extra-long 48" wires with resistor termination.
• Includes Cherry Microswitch and plastic retaining nut (.25" Terminals)

The price will be $8.95 each. 

Thanks for looking,
RandyT

[jfunk]

Wow!  Seems like these would be really cool for a bartop or something.  Coin door functionality without the coin door size 

What ever happened to those coin door stickers you were thinking of offering?  Those stickers with these on top of them 

[RandyT]

What ever happened to those coin door stickers you were thinking of offering?  Those stickers with these on top of them 

I was thinking exactly that as I was doing these.  I would just re-render it without the coin entry geometry and put a couple of circles on them to show where to drill

It's not a dead idea, but it is in hibernation for a bit.

RandyT

[Kaytrim]

Geese Randy, you keep cranking out all the cool stuff.   Wish I could become a reseller for your stuff.  Then I wouldn't have to save up the cash to get my hands on all your inventions. 

I'd ask about something else but I don't want to hijack this thread. 

[RandyT]

I'd ask about something else but I don't want to hijack this thread. 

Thanks

[RetroBorg]

Can you do an Aussie version with 20 cents?    We don't have quarters!

[RandyT]

Can you do an Aussie version with 20 cents?    We don't have quarters!

Sounds like you have "fifths" 

Got some artwork or should it just have 20 instead of 25?

If someone has a special request for something like this, they just need to let me know when they place the order.

RandyT

[Chris G]

HA!  Finally a new GGG product that I don't need.  You can't commandeer my pocketbook this time, bub.  

Very nice looking, Randy.

[Kremmit]

I'm assuming these mount in a standard microswitch pushbutton hole?  How wide/tall are the bezels?  I'm wondering if these can replace some existing credit buttons, but there are other buttons mounted nearby.

[Fozzy The Bear]

Available from the store in a day or two:

I'd like to take full credit for the idea, but this one was inspired by a post made by Crowquill a few months ago.  However, the implementation, light source modification, artwork, etc. is all the work of GGG.

Damn!! now that's some latteral thinking....... A fruit machine button with a coin logo on it.    LOL  You've done it again Randy. 

I might even order a couple of these for the Neo-Geo Bartop I'm putting together.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[RandyT]

I'm assuming these mount in a standard microswitch pushbutton hole?  How wide/tall are the bezels?  I'm wondering if these can replace some existing credit buttons, but there are other buttons mounted nearby.

Ok, some dimensions:

First, it's not the same diameter as a standard pushbutton hole.  The threaded portion of the body is 1" long and .925" diameter, or made for a 15/16" hole.  I think 1" would be fine.

The outside dims are 1.3" wide, by 1.96" tall.  The actual button face is .938" wide by 1.588" tall.

They also have orientation pegs to keep them from spinning, so I guess they could be used with existing holes just by putting the smaller peg holes above and below the existing pushbutton hole and then tightening the nut down.  I don't think it will go anywhere, and it should cover everything fine.

RandyT

[Jeff AMN]

Nice job. My second cab is going to be riddled with GGG goodies.

[ahofle]

I'm assuming these mount in a standard microswitch pushbutton hole?  How wide/tall are the bezels?  I'm wondering if these can replace some existing credit buttons, but there are other buttons mounted nearby.

Ok, some dimensions:

First, it doesn't fit a standard pushbutton hole.  The threaded portion of the body is 1" long and .925" diameter, or made for a 15/16" hole.  I think 1" would work as well, but might be a little sloppy. 

 
Damn that's a major bummer.  I already have some coin buttons (1 1/8") on the front of my CP.  It would be nice to put these in their place.  Anyone know of any adapters that would help?

[RandyT]

Damn that's a major bummer.  I already have some coin buttons (1 1/8") on the front of my CP.  It would be nice to put these in their place.  Anyone know of any adapters that would help?

They also have orientation pegs to keep them from spinning, so I guess they could be used with existing holes just by putting the smaller peg holes above and below the existing pushbutton hole and then tightening the nut down.  I don't think it will go anywhere, and it should cover everything fine.

Read this part again   I think it will work fine, even in a 1 1/8" existing hole, as long as the orientation pin holes are drilled on center with the existing hole.

RandyT

[Tiger-Heli]

Read this part again   I think it will work fine, even in a 1 1/8" existing hole, as long as the orientation pin holes are drilled on center with the existing hole.

And not even that precisely on-center, as long as the bezel part of the CDR covered the existing hole.

Another cool product Randy, congrats!!!!

[ahofle]

Read this part again   I think it will work fine, even in a 1 1/8" existing hole, as long as the orientation pin holes are drilled on center with the existing hole.

 
Oops, now how did I miss that?!?

[javeryh]

Awesome! 

[Buddabing]

Can you put anything you want in the button, like a "insert token" graphic?

[KenToad]

It looks awesome, but I need a pic with the lights on.  It's too dark in that photo to really get a full impression of how it looks.

Even better would be a pic of one installed or a pic of what you're describing in order to get one to cover an existing "standard" button hole.

Great work as usual.  According to my finances, I will gladly toss some cash your way.

[vrf]

Can you put anything you want in the button, like a "insert token" graphic?

yeah, I appreciate the authenticity of the "push to reject," but I'd rather have something more suited to the use. How hard would it be for us to mod these to say, "Push to add credit" or something?

I suppose we'd have to have our own vinyl cut.

[ahofle]

yeah, I appreciate the authenticity of the "push to reject," but I'd rather have something more suited to the use. How hard would it be for us to mod these to say, "Push to add credit" or something?

Agreed.  Even 'Push to Credit' in the same font would suffice.  Even though the text would be slightly different, it would look authentic enough and not confuse noobs at the same time.    Please let us know when they will be available for purchase.

[RandyT]

It looks awesome, but I need a pic with the lights on.  It's too dark in that photo to really get a full impression of how it looks.

This should give you an idea.  Again, the light is very RED not yellow.  The cameras just can't handle it.

Even better would be a pic of one installed or a pic of what you're describing in order to get one to cover an existing "standard" button hole.

No problem.....

Can you put anything you want in the button, like a "insert token" graphic?

yeah, I appreciate the authenticity of the "push to reject," but I'd rather have something more suited to the use. How hard would it be for us to mod these to say, "Push to add credit" or something?

Absolutely.  I can have a few stock designs print and cut and just apply them as needed.  I'd like to keep it limited to a few different designs though.  How about coming up with a total of 4 (including the "old school" original) and I'll make them standard options?  I like the "push to credit".  Is 2 more enough?

RandyT

[KenToad]

Oh, damn you Randy, now I have to say that these look perfect for my bartop. 



















I mean thanks very much.   

[vrf]

Hmm... Push for credit might be good, although I'd buy either wording. Not sure about other variations. Maybe one with just "credit" or even just the large "25c" with no text below. (You'd have to center it, though.)

Weird, I just realized I have no idea where the little cents symbol is on my keyboard...

[Kremmit]

Sounds like 3/16" of electrical tape wound around the button threads would snug it up in a standard pushbutton hole pretty well, then.  As long as the bezel completely covers the hole, all's good.

[SirPeale]

So it's a standard poker button with custom graphics and an LED bulb?  Neat!

[Havok]

I think we need Mameys for retailers - I nominate Randy!!!

 

[Tiger-Heli]

Absolutely.  I can have a few stock designs print and cut and just apply them as needed.  I'd like to keep it limited to a few different designs though.  How about coming up with a total of 4 (including the "old school" original) and I'll make them standard options?  I like the "push to credit".  Is 2 more enough?
RandyT

You're going to have a hard time pleasing everyone with just 4 designs.  I think you will want some with 20c for Aussies, and some with pence, and maybe some with Yen.

Personally, I like the "PUSH FOR CREDIT" idea with the current font and 25c because that's what I grew up with.

However, I think it might be a good idea to lose the faux coin slot.  I just imagine you will have some drunk friend who remembers the original game trying to jam a quarter into the button (might be fun to watch anyway, though).

You might expand the label horizontally, something like this:

[RandyT]

Sounds like 3/16" of electrical tape wound around the button threads would snug it up in a standard pushbutton hole pretty well, then.  As long as the bezel completely covers the hole, all's good.

You could do that, but it's really not necessary as the upper and lower orientation pins hold it in position and the nut snugs it down tight.

So it's a standard poker button with custom graphics and an LED bulb?  Neat!

For the most part.  The LED is the same as used in the NovaGem buttons.  A regular superbright wouldn't light these nearly as well.

Oh, and don't forget the pre-attached, 2x 48" of 20awg wire with resistor 

RandyT

[RayB]

Cool. This is one of those "doh" ideas that should have been obvious! Especially after that one member made his round "25c" illuminated credit buttons. This is the sign of true genius. The ability to think just ONE level above the rest of us. 

[KenToad]

Here is what I already have on my bartop, makes more sense than "push to reject," although I don't think a single person has ever read it.  They just stare at the game screen and start mashing buttons everywhere, apparently in the hopes that one will start the game. 

[RandyT]

Here is what I already have on my bartop, makes more sense than "push to reject," although I don't think a single person has ever read it.  They just stare at the game screen and start mashing buttons everywhere, apparently in the hopes that one will start the game. 

Heh.  The "slot" and the "Push To Reject" are strictly "authenticity" things.  I have two coin doors here from the era and both have this wording.

So how many would like to see the word "Token" ?  I can do a "slotless" version, but then we start getting a lot of combinations.

"Push to Insert" makes the most sense to me so far,  as it relates directly to the "25˘" or "Token".  Is this agreeable?


Thanks for the input.

Randy

[spacies]

Push for credits

[johnperkins21]

You know what would be really cool, if you cut a slot in the side of that thing for a quarter to go through. Then whenever someone put in a quarter, it would add a credit. That would be an awesome button.

Just kidding. This is a damn cool idea. Great for bartops as others have said. And sticking with "Push to Reject" keeps the authenticity of it looking like an actual reject button. I may decide to use these on my juke.

[Tiger-Heli]

"Push to Insert" makes the most sense to me so far,  as it relates directly to the "25˘" or "Token".  Is this agreeable?

I like "Push for Credit" better, personally, but I'm not in the market for these, so I don't think my vote should count. 

[Space Fractal]

Nice product, but it US only, since it wont been good for outside USA, since most contries dosent use dollars and cent.

Im also more like "Token - Push for Credits".

A idea is let the user choose between 3 or 4 labels to suitable most needs?

[ahofle]

"Push to Insert" makes the most sense to me so far,  as it relates directly to the "25˘" or "Token".  Is this agreeable?

I like "Push for Credit" better, personally, but I'm not in the market for these, so I don't think my vote should count. 

Me too and I'm in the market for these. 
Poor Randy.  He gives an inch and we take a mile. 

[Buddabing]

Didn't Randy have coin door decals that look like a coin door? If these buttons match up with the slots in the decal, it would make a terrific poor man's coin door. Imagine the time and expense we go through to get a functioning coin door.

[ark_ader]

Ok Randy when can I order them and how soon can I have them shipped to the UK?

Should we group order these like the tokens to save shipping?

Randy, you are Godsend.  I have been trying to come up with a solution to my cab regarding coinslots and mechs for many months.  Now this...

Truly excellent. 

Many Thanks.   


 

[Crowquill]

Cool. This is one of those "doh" ideas that should have been obvious! Especially after that one member made his round "25c" illuminated credit buttons. This is the sign of true genius. The ability to think just ONE level above the rest of us. 

This is why I didn't think anything of it and originally just mentioned it in passing. I first did this on a stand-alone control panel that I made back in 2000. I make no claim to the latter part  

I posted artwork for my "home-made" versions a while back in the artwork forum, but Randy's are far better implemented. I'm sure the red LEDs will light it much better than the standard incadescent bulbs. Here was my post:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=60158.0

As far as simulating a coin door on my cocktail, I'm considering just cutting a small panel of hardboard and painting it black with hammered paint to have something to mount these to. I'd rather pick up a Midway coin door, but that may be cost prohibitive at the moment.

And Randy...thanks for the "credit"  

[ahofle]

I guess I need to hang out in the artwork forum some.  Nice work!

[urbecrisch]

What do you guys think of me using some of these buttons on my old Williams coin door?  Maybe if I enlarge the hole these buttons will fit nicely.  What do you guys think?  I'm working on my first CAB & CP from an old Defender CAB.  I saved the coin door but the mecs looked bad so I tossed them but maybe these new buttons will fit in nicely.

[Rip]

Any idea if these will fit (cover the opening) of a coinco, williams, bally, or happ coin door?  If you removed the original (usually crappy) red coin return and bezel, it may fit.

Instead of "dead" coin returns that drop inserted coins on the bottom on my cabinet, this would actually given them a purpose.

On my coin door, the bezel for the coin drop is 2" x 2", the actual hole in the coin door is 1.25" wide x 1.75" high.

You can see in the first pic, on this coin door I didn't have a decent coin drop so I had to improvise with pushbuttons.  These would make an ideal replacement and are actually cheaper than buying a new coin drop kit 

[BobA]

The CDR pushbuttons are a perfect solution for many who do not want to go the complete coindoor route.  Even as an add on to a real coin door they are looking great.  Congrats on a great product.

[delta88]

Isn't it just a standard rectangle button with a insert? Not trying to be a buzzkill or anything.  I went for the Ultracade red button on the top center of the panel that says start/stop. gets the point across.

[johnperkins21]

Isn't it just a standard rectangle button with a insert? Not trying to be a buzzkill or anything.  I went for the Ultracade red button on the top center of the panel that says start/stop. gets the point across.

Oh, and don't forget the pre-attached, 2x 48" of 20awg wire with resistor (and RGB LEDs) 

This is a ready-made solution. And while you certainly could do it yourself, why would you want to? He's done all the hard work for you and is only charging a nominal fee. Seems like doing it yourself would take you more time than it's worth (depending on how much you value your time. I value mine at ~$50/hour).

[leapinlew]

Isn't it just a standard rectangle button with a insert? Not trying to be a buzzkill or anything.  I went for the Ultracade red button on the top center of the panel that says start/stop. gets the point across.

sounds like someones kicking themselves...

It's a nice product at a great price. Don't be hate'n 

[MameMaster!]

....are these for sale yet?

[RandyT]

....are these for sale yet?

I just finalized the 4 styles last night.  I'll have them on the store by days end.

The first style will be the "classic" one pictured.  The rest will have the "PUSH FOR CREDIT" wording, with 1 having the 25 cent, another with the word "TOKEN" and the last one had to have a quarter graphic 

RandyT

[RandyT]

Ok. They are now available to purchase at the store.

Thanks for being patient while we got these ready.

RandyT

[bfauska]

Good choice for the wording options.  They look great, and if I end up building a cab w/o a coin door you can count on an order from me. 

Keep up the great work and clever products,
Brian

[RandyT]

Just wanted to drop a note saying that Blue and Green options are now available at the store in addition to the standard Red.  Amber is also a possibility down the road if there's a demand ( but you gotta let me know!  )

Thanks,
RandyT

[Lakersfan]

RandyT or anyone else:
Do you know if these replacement coin buttons will work with the type of coin door that "Rip" posted above (3rd post from the top, 2nd pic)?

I have a similar coin door.

[BobA]

RandyT or anyone else:
Do you know if these replacement coin buttons will work with the type of coin door that "Rip" posted above (3rd post from the top, 2nd pic)?

I have a similar coin door.

Here is the template for the button.  You can see if it will fit your coin door.

See threadhttp://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=66616.0

[Lakersfan]

Oh Lord. That was right in front of my face. Thanks Bob!

[fjl]

Lol, I just checked GGG and you are already sold out.

These buttons are awesome dude. But I just need a few things before I buy one. First for them to be white like the Electric Ice buttons plus contain an RGB Led so that "I" can decide its color. This next one is not a requirement but it would be a great plus, to have them have the same hole size as a standard button 1-1/8".

This last one would be even more so awesome but also not a requirement, modify the graphics of the button into a circle and put it on the top of an electric ice button. I'd definitely buy it!

[Donkey_Kong]

Question for Randy or anyone that could possibly answer:

About the Electric Ice buttons and trackball, could a brown type color be achieved with these items? I already have the electric ice but no led whiz. Perhaps a led whiz and some ice buttons are in my future if brown can be achieved.

Here is a cab that needs brown buttons...

[GaryMcT]

If there was a combo product that is an "UNREAL coin door" plus a NovaGemCDR so that you can remove your coin door and replace it with another door with two builtin buttons, that would be freakin' awesome!   For extra credit, it would have some way to insert coins for player 3 and 4 as well (or maybe just have 4 buttons.)

[Tiger-Heli]

If there was a combo product that is an "UNREAL coin door" plus a NovaGemCDR so that you can remove your coin door and replace it with another door with two builtin buttons, that would be freakin' awesome!   For extra credit, it would have some way to insert coins for player 3 and 4 as well (or maybe just have 4 buttons.)

Hmmmn - I'm not following what you are getting at here.

If you have a scratch-built cab, the Unreal Coin Door and NovaGems are a great option.

If you have a conversion cab, removing the mechs and adding NovaGems are probably simpler and more cost effective than buying a separate blank door to add the NovaGems to.   I can see the blank panel being nice, but think it's a limited market.

On the P3 and P4 options - for the 4-player games that need this, the easiest way to do it would be to map P3 Start to P3 Button 1 and the P3 Start button on the panel to P3 Insert Coin, like this page ...

The other option I haven't worked out (and I rarely get AHK to do what I need it to), but I'm sure someone could write an AutoHotKey script so that either:

• Pressing the coin 1 button and releasing it within 4 seconds sent "5" and holding it for more than 4 seconds and releasing it sent "7"
• Pressing the coin 1 button once sent "5" and pressing it more than once in a 1-second period (double-press) sent "7"

Hope This Helps!!!

[garnerb350]

I have to say that I have the UnREAL Coin Door and the CDR coin lights and it to me is the best!...
I couldnt afford a coin door...( damn things are too expensive) and I never was in the right time to find an old one to fix up...so I went to Randy and got these...

I love it... The lighting is great, hookup is a breeze and I have no complaints...

The unreal door is basiclly a vinyl sticker...I took 2 sheets of pexi and i used them to make sure the door is protected....I drilled the holes and mounted the pushbuttons...on my cab i routed the wood to make it where the door was flush ....Later on I bought some molding to go around the coin door to look nice...( not pictured below)... I HIGHLY recomend it for simple yet awesome cabs.....

[mercury187]

How would I power these if using an xbox1 and a MC Cthulu? I also have a Zotac HTPC I might use but I would be unable to use anything but its USB.

[BobA]

The Vcc pin of the MC Cthulu will be 5V from the xbox 1 as it is plugged into the xbox controller port which is a modified USB port.   The Coin Drop unit requires 5V and Ground to power the LED.

[robneal81]

I have a Mortal Kombat arcade machine and I'd like to turn the coin slots into push-buttons.  Would this be a good replacement?

[BobA]

They are not a bolt in replacement but with a little work they can be made to look as if they are part of the coin door.  Lots of examples of how they are used on real coin doors in this thread.   There is a template on the Groovy Game Gear site that will give you the exact measurement of the button and the hole required to mount it.

[charleslam]

i saw these before my arcade died from a hdd crash.  i knew i needed to get these back then.  i moved out of my dad's place and have since gotten into a better financial situation. 

I have been searching for these for 2 weeks solid via google.  these will be mine.

Since i want to be able to power down softly the machine, and not have the hdd die on me again, i've sent a request to see if instead of "push to reject" i can get a set that say power and reset.  i do not have the patience to use smart strips and set up that configuration.  these buttons will do great if they can sit in my traditional coin drop mounts.  if not i will mod them to fit. 

if changing the text is not possible, i guess the next best question would be, can these be opened up to remove the graphic and create my own?

I hope to purchase your products very soon regardless of the outcome.