Joystick conversion mounting plate?

[disciple]

Hi.

I have a cab here that I've recently fitted a new monitor to, I'm now wanting to change the sticks.

Previously I'd fitted a couple of Happ 360s which fitted the existing mounting bolts perfectly.

The measurements to the four mounting holes are approx as follows :

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Since I play a lot of shooters I'm wanting to remove the Happ's and put in a couple of Seimitsu LS-32's or possibly some Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y's but the problem is the mounting plates uses on these Japanese sticks have a different hole configuration.


So ideally what I'm looking for is some sort of mounting plate that will convert one type to another so I can mount the Japnese style sticks in my cab.  I've had a look here at the mounting plates about half way down the page and none there seem to do it.
http://www.akihabarashop.com/products.html

Does anyone know if a mounting plate solution is available anywhere to convert one type to the other or how I could do this?   I don't really want to get into modding my current cpanel if possible since it's metal and the mounting bolts are welded on!


(pic from before I mounted the Happ's)

[destructor]

Hi.

I have a cab here that I've recently fitted a new monitor to, I'm now wanting to change the sticks.

Previously I'd fitted a couple of Happ 360s which fitted the existing mounting bolts perfectly.

The measurements to the four mounting holes are approx as follows :

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O-------------------------O
 |                         |
 |                         |
 |                         650mm
 |                         |
 |                         |
 O---------750mm-----------O


Since I play a lot of shooters I'm wanting to remove the Happ's and put in a couple of Seimitsu LS-32's or possibly some Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y's but the problem is the mounting plates uses on these Japanese sticks have a different hole configuration.

Do you really want to change P360 to Seimitsu or Sanwa if you play on shooters?
Look topic "Best joystick for SHMUPS". Better modify your P360. I recommend to you don't change P360 to LS-32 ot JLF-Tp-8Y! Modify P360!
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62735.0

[disciple]

Do you really want to change P360 to Seimitsu or Sanwa if you play on shooters?
Look topic "Best joystick for SHMUPS". Better modify your P360. I recommend to you don't change P360 to LS-32 ot JLF-Tp-8Y! Modify P360!
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62735.0

Interesting, how do you go about modifying a P360, presumably the mod it would just shorten the throw on it?  What makes this modded P360 so much better than the Sanwa of Seimitsu?

I have a HRAP here with a Seimitsu stick in it which I find to be ace for shooters, also the positive clicky feedback means it works really well for beat 'em ups, it feels a lot better than my P360 as it is.
I'm not really that up on all this joystick business, the Seimitsu may just feel better because it's using a square gate and the P360 feels like it has a circular one(?).

[Fozzy The Bear]

The other thing to note is that the Sanwa JLF-Tp-8Y are not particularly short throw. I have one mounted as my 4 way stick.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[destructor]

Modyfing P360 doesn't made shorter throw. It made faster (super fast) engagement.
Throw = max joystick travel
Engagement = joystick travel to engage move

LS-32 with square gate are better (far better) than P360 for beatem'up games, but P360 with circle gate are far better than LS-32 and JLF-TP-8Y  for airshooter games.

Square gates are better (best) for beatem'ups.

[disciple]

Yeah, not that I'm a big beat 'em up fan but I do find it difficult doing dragon punches consistently with the P360.  I think it's mainly down to the Sanwa/Seimitsu offering more feedback when it hits its diagonals.  Feedback being a combination of the feel of the square gate and also being able to hear the microswitches engaging.

What makes the P360 better than the Sanwa/Seimitsu for shoot 'em ups, I can see the difference for beat 'em ups but for shooters isn't it more just to do with personal preference?

Also what kind of mods are you talking about above with the P360? 

[destructor]

but for shooters isn't it more just to do with personal preference?

No

Also what kind of mods are you talking about above with the P360? 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=52951.0

[disciple]

but for shooters isn't it more just to do with personal preference?

No

Also what kind of mods are you talking about above with the P360? 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=52951.0

Ah righty ho.

So basically you're saying I need to do the following :

Get a couple of MMCP's machined as per below (can't really read the text but MMCP=modified for metal control panel=the far right one in each pic).



Then grab a couple of sanwa balltops which should screw right on there.

Then I need new actuators, 19mm tall, 13.5mm diameter :



Might as well get those machined too?

Once that's all done I'll have a shorter ball top resulting in less effective travel to engagement, and the addition of the actuator will reduce engagement further resulting in a kick-arse stick for shoot 'em ups?

[destructor]

First try to change actuator - most important for faster engagement. Next you can change handle.

[Kremmit]

If you're doing the P360 mod, then this won't matter anymore, but if you decide to pursue the mounting plate thing, there was a tutorial around here where somebody made a nice one cheaply from an electrical junction box cover.

[Kremmit]

Here's at least on example; I thought I remembered another thread with more pics, but 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=45500.msg437176#msg437176

[disciple]

Cheers for the advice destructor.

Heh I've phoned a few local machine shops and the want in the region of £70 for two sets of stems plus collars!     I'm sure I can get them cheaper, I'll try a few more or as you say just go for the collar swap out for now.

[disciple]

Here's at least on example; I thought I remembered another thread with more pics, but 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=45500.msg437176#msg437176

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Thinking about it, I reckon the conversion route might be the better way to go actually due to the costs above and also due to the seemingly piss poor performance the 360 seems to have with beat 'em ups.  I do like my Sanwa HRAP for shoot 'em ups and since the Sanwa also does well on SF2-alikes I'm again thinking this might be the best overall solution to go for in my case.