Williams Defender Arcade No death before 50k+ White Hard dp

[leapinlew]

Man, watching this video makes me realize - some people got it and some people don't. I don't know if I can develop "Defender fingers" this late in life.

Check out this dude playing defender. While he may not be the greatest defender player in the world, he's way better than me.



By the way, if your the dude who made this video fess up!

[spacies]

He's ok.

I could give him a few tips.

1: Reverse more.
2: Destroy the humans bar 1 or 2 in any wave after number 5. Otherwise too many mutants.
3: Smart bombs are to get you out of trouble and I don't use them to destroy the Pods at the beginning of a wave unless I have too.
4: Thrust more to complete the wave faster and avoid the baiters coming out.
5: In the first to waves at least, you want to try and capture all 10 humans for MAXIMUM points while the going is easy.

Other than that hes ok.

I play Defender quite a bit and have done so since the 80's. So I am rather good at it. (modest)

Keep practising leapinlew.

[leapinlew]

He's ok.

I could give him a few tips.

1: Reverse more.
2: Destroy the humans bar 1 or 2 in any wave after number 5. Otherwise too many mutants.
3: Smart bombs are to get you out of trouble and I don't use them to destroy the Pods at the beginning of a wave unless I have too.
4: Thrust more to complete the wave faster and avoid the baiters coming out.
5: In the first to waves at least, you want to try and capture all 10 humans for MAXIMUM points while the going is easy.

Other than that hes ok.

I play Defender quite a bit and have done so since the 80's. So I am rather good at it. (modest)

Keep practising leapinlew.

Thrust... MORE?! Damnit. I can't control my guy now. I'm bad about thrusting. I actually let off thrust to shoot. I'll work on it.

I was wondering about reverse. Good tip!

What about hyperspace? Is it totally worthless? I seem to die about 50% of the time I use it.

So anyhow... I'm waiting for your video! (and not the video of you building a cocktail table in 2 minutes.

[Donkey_Kong]

He's ok.

I could give him a few tips.

1: Reverse more.
2: Destroy the humans bar 1 or 2 in any wave after number 5. Otherwise too many mutants.
3: Smart bombs are to get you out of trouble and I don't use them to destroy the Pods at the beginning of a wave unless I have too.
4: Thrust more to complete the wave faster and avoid the baiters coming out.
5: In the first to waves at least, you want to try and capture all 10 humans for MAXIMUM points while the going is easy.

Other than that hes ok.

I play Defender quite a bit and have done so since the 80's. So I am rather good at it. (modest)

Keep practising leapinlew.

Thrust... MORE?! Damnit. I can't control my guy now. I'm bad about thrusting. I actually let off thrust to shoot. I'll work on it.

I was wondering about reverse. Good tip!

What about hyperspace? Is it totally worthless? I seem to die about 50% of the time I use it.

So anyhow... I'm waiting for your video! (and not the video of you building a cocktail table in 2 minutes.

Lew-

My new strategy to better my Williams game is to study my 11 year old while he plays. Now to get Timbercade done so we can execute. Would you like a front row seat? Clergyman discount for you of course.

 

[clockwork]

I remember being good at Defender. Played it again recently... Well, in my defense, I'm still limited to playing on the keyboard for now.

[spacies]

Sorry, the thrust part of it is meant to read:

Thrust more towards the end of the wave. This will allow you to get to your target before the baiters come out.


Notice at towards the end of a level, he continues to fly in one direction when the oponent in is behind him on the scanner? And if he doesn't destroy it, he will fly over if and continue in the same direction. That's asking for BAITERS!!!!

Hyperspace will kill you 2 in 3 times you use it. Thats a fact. Avoid using it unless you are in deep ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.


I could post a quick video I suppose.
Maybe the first couple of levels as my camera doesn't record for long.

Donkey Kong: Are you playing Robotron? Man, I am so addicted to that game at the moment. I have just cracked 300k. Still not good enough, but I will get better with more practise.

Funny thing, I recently had to change my grip on the left stick because of a blister from too many games.  

[Donkey_Kong]

I remember being good at Defender. Played it again recently... Well, in my defense, I'm still limited to playing on the keyboard for now.

Well that is one of them games that is like playing on a keyboard anyway isn't it? All them buttons.

Spacies- Would love to be playing Robotron right now but my cab is broke and it has worms! 

Whats a guy to do?

[clockwork]

Well that is one of them games that is like playing on a keyboard anyway isn't it? All them buttons.

Hush! You're ruining my excuse! 

[arzoo]

1: Reverse more.

I agree.

2: Destroy the humans bar 1 or 2 in any wave after number 5. Otherwise too many mutants.

Disagree - wastes lots of points. More points = more lives. Mutants can be handled.

3: Smart bombs are to get you out of trouble and I don't use them to destroy the Pods at the beginning of a wave unless I have too.

I only use the SB on the pods when all 4 are on the screen at one time. Quick easy points.

4: Thrust more to complete the wave faster and avoid the baiters coming out.

And shoot faster! I had a roomate whose fire finger was a blur.

5: In the first to waves at least, you want to try and capture all 10 humans for MAXIMUM points while the going is easy.

Definitely. Plus, it's fun to watch the CPU bog down when you drop the load!

[WareWolF]

Does that happen on mame?  (cpu bog down?)  I never play defender on mame because I can't stand playing it w/keyboard or a regular computer joystick, I want to build a defender/stargate only type control panel one of these days. 

Robotron seems to be much harder on mame because it does NOT bog down when there is alot of action on the screen.

[leapinlew]

Does that happen on mame?  (cpu bog down?)  I never play defender on mame because I can't stand playing it w/keyboard or a regular computer joystick, I want to build a defender/stargate only type control panel one of these days. 

Robotron seems to be much harder on mame because it does NOT bog down when there is alot of action on the screen.

Mame accurately recreates gameplay - including emulating the CPU used on the machines.

[Grasshopper]

Robotron seems to be much harder on mame because it does NOT bog down when there is alot of action on the screen.

IIRC on older versions of MAME the slowdown wasn't emulated. I believe this has now been fixed but it's hard to say for sure without actually comparing MAME and a genuine machine side by side.

[leapinlew]

Robotron seems to be much harder on mame because it does NOT bog down when there is alot of action on the screen.

IIRC on older versions of MAME the slowdown wasn't emulated. I believe this has now been fixed but it's hard to say for sure without actually comparing MAME and a genuine machine side by side.

Ah! Learn something everyday. Thanks.

[TOK]

The Robotron video blitter was fixed in version .99.
If you play an older version back to back, the difference is subtle, but you'll definitely notice higher scores on the post .99 version.

[Ahigh]

I clicked through related videos and found this one.  Really cool!



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- Ahigh

[FrizzleFried]

You can download a high resolution version of that Arcade 84 video on the net...just google Arcade 84 (I am too damn lazy to go looking for it).

I am running the shortened version (around 40 seconds) on one of my cabs.

[eccs19]

You can download a high resolution version of that Arcade 84 video on the net...just google Arcade 84 (I am too damn lazy to go looking for it).

I am running the shortened version (around 40 seconds) on one of my cabs.

I think this is the one you are talking about.

http://www.cinemarcade.com/arcade84.html

[WareWolF]

By tok: The Robotron video blitter was fixed in version .99.
If you play an older version back to back, the difference is subtle, but you'll definitely notice higher scores on the post .99 version.

Thanks for the info....  I am still running 0.87!  Guess it's time to update!