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Author Topic: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa Version 1.3.00 now released (1/30/09)  (Read 31431 times)

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2006, 07:08:11 pm »
WOW! I just realized this "Ultra Utility's" existance Fatfingers! I haven't been over here in the software dept. for a LONG time! Fatfingers you could maybe post a link from Hardware reviews posts and Main posts about Ultra Stiks so that more U 360 owners would become aware of it! It seems really neat.

Also, Am I understanding it correctly that you need a host for the files for this U 360 plugin/application files? I might be able ot help there...Not sure though if that is what you need.
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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2006, 07:31:23 pm »
OK, thanks to the generosity of loadman, the plugin and instructions may be downloaded from the following links:

Plugin

Thanks loadman!  :cheers:




Edit: url updated to mala plugins page

Edit: Thanks to loadman for temporarily hosting the files!



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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2006, 07:59:41 pm »

Hi Donkey_Kong!  Thanks for the offer to host the files.  Loadman has generously offered his site up for the time being.  I think Swindus plans to host them long term.  If something doesn't work out for the long term, I will contact you about hosting!

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2006, 11:42:24 am »
I can't wait to try this out.  I received my U360 and I plan on using Mala as my FE in a "vertical only" cab I'm building now.  This is an amazing idea - It will be so nice to switch from Galaga to 1942 to Q*Bert seamlessly!

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2006, 12:25:12 pm »
I can't wait to try this out.  I received my U360 and I plan on using Mala as my FE in a "vertical only" cab I'm building now.  This is an amazing idea - It will be so nice to switch from Galaga to 1942 to Q*Bert seamlessly!

Indeed, it is a wonderful thing.  Please let me know how it works out for you.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2006, 12:35:18 pm »
Well done fatfingers.   :applaud:  I have been playing with this and it seems to work flawlessly. 

One question,  if I am not mistaken, you need to create a ugc for not only the master but clones also if you want to override what is in mame, is this correct?

Thanks

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2006, 01:26:15 pm »
Well done fatfingers.   :applaud:  I have been playing with this and it seems to work flawlessly. 

One question,  if I am not mistaken, you need to create a ugc for not only the master but clones also if you want to override what is in mame, is this correct?

Thanks

Yes, you must also create .ugc files for clones -- the .ugc files must match the rom name (if you want specific maps for a game).


Great to hear it is working well!


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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2006, 07:14:01 pm »
Looks like SWINDUS has posted your Plug-in on the MaLa site now

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2006, 07:29:22 pm »

YAY Swindus!   :cheers:

I have updated the links above to now point to MaLa's plugin page.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2006, 01:38:53 pm »

I would like to hear from a few people that have tried this to know how it worked for them (and to know if anyone has downloaded it at all).

Thanks!

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2006, 07:07:42 pm »
FF, just got a U360 for Christmas (my wife is the best!), and I'll be trying the plugin this week.   :cheers:

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2006, 11:54:42 pm »
FatFingers,
Does the UltraMap program still need to be installed in the Mala folder?  I changed the PATH variable to include where I have UltraMap installed, but it's not working.  The plugin shows up in Mala, but it's not changing the maps.     ???

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2006, 09:52:57 am »
FatFingers,
Does the UltraMap program still need to be installed in the Mala folder?  I changed the PATH variable to include where I have UltraMap installed, but it's not working.  The plugin shows up in Mala, but it's not changing the maps.     ???

The plugin needs to be in the MaLa folder, but not the UltraMap program.  Please tell me where the UltraMap program is installed and show me your PATH variable just to be sure everything is set up right.

Oh, you did stop and then restart MaLa after changing your PATH, right?

Oh, and your UltraStik(s) show up in the device manager and game controllers and test out fine otherwise?

I will be away for a couple of days, so sorry if I am slow in responding after this.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2006, 10:55:43 am »
FF,
The path to the UltraMap software is:  C:\Program Files\UltraMap

I then went to Windows XP system properties and changed the Path variable to include the path above (semi-colon, then the path).  See the attached pic for where I changed the path.  Is there a path variable within MaLa that I need to change or is this the correct one?

>Oh, you did stop and then restart MaLa after changing your PATH, right?<
Yup!

>Oh, and your UltraStik(s) show up in the device manager and game controllers and test out fine otherwise?<
Yup!

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2006, 11:14:55 am »
Also, does it matter that I'm using Mame .103?

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2006, 10:40:33 am »
    I didn't see anything wrong with it, so I went ahead and put the ultramap program in my mala folder.  I did try changing the path first but I wasn't successful in getting it to work this way.  With the program in the mala folder everything worked great. 
   

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2006, 11:59:43 am »

Ninten-doh: That is the appropriate place to edit the path.  When I get home we'll try to work through it together (making sure everything is installed in the right place, etc.).  First, however, how do you know that the maps are not being applied properly?  Do you get an error from UltraMap?  As long as MaLa fully supports MAME .103 then I don't see why that should matter.

Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2006, 01:59:34 pm »
Popcorrin, FatFingers, thanks for looking into this. 

FF, I know the maps are not being applied because I'll open up UltraMap and load a "4 way" map.  Then, I'll open up MaLa and try to play an 8-way game like Golden Axe.  An 8-way map should load for Golden Axe and it should play fine, but when I play it, it will only let me move 4-way. 

If I manually load an 8-way map in UltraMap, then load Mame from the command line (no MaLa), Golden Axe plays correctly in 8-way.  I've tried this out with a variety of different games and it always loads the game with the UltraMap that was last manually loaded.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2006, 02:45:59 pm »

Odd.  But, the good news is that UltraMap is working fine and your sticks are responding to it.   Working out the plugin issue should not be too hard.  Is there a phone number I can reach you at (assuming my cell is charged)?

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2006, 03:45:55 pm »
Fatfingers, will you be available tomorrow?  I'm actually at my in-laws sneaking a peak at the forum every once in awhile today.  ;D

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2006, 03:52:54 pm »
Fatfingers, will you be available tomorrow?  I'm actually at my in-laws sneaking a peak at the forum every once in awhile today.  ;D

heh...I too am at my in-laws (on dialup!!! eww!!!!) sneaking a peak.  Yes, tomorrow would likely work much better for me.

Let me know.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2006, 03:56:14 pm »
Hehehe, enjoy the day.  I'll PM you with a time and phone # for tomorrow later.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2006, 05:54:19 pm »
... No No  I 've been following this thread.  :'(

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2006, 07:36:14 pm »


Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

Thanks guys!



I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2006, 09:44:29 pm »


Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

Thanks guys!



I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.


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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2006, 10:46:06 pm »


Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

Thanks guys!



I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.


 :cry:



Sounds like you need a Logger option or a Pop Up Window (like my serial Plug-in) to de- bug.  To See what the Plug-in is trying to do.

Chances are it's a simple working directory issue (best guess anyway)

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2006, 11:11:59 pm »
FatFingers,
Like Popcorrin, I installed UltraMap in the MaLa folder and now it works like a charm.   :applaud:

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #67 on: December 29, 2006, 07:38:57 am »

Can we still get together today and check out why it wasn't working in a separate folder?

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« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2006, 11:47:25 am »
FatFingers,
I would be happy to help troubleshoot.  I'm sending you my contact info via PM.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2006, 07:03:06 pm »


Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

Thanks guys!



I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.


Popcorrin:  Any chance you are using a shortcut to start MaLa?

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2006, 07:10:45 pm »
I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.


Popcorrin:  Any chance you are using a shortcut to start MaLa?

[/quote]

If so it could be the same issue I had with the 'speech' plug-in. You can either add the path into the 'start-in' section of your short-cut or fat-fingers can re-code to set the working directory.

See this thread:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=59589.msg593164#msg593164

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2006, 10:27:10 pm »

I would like to extend my thanks to Ninten-doh for his help in debugging his issues today.  He spent a ton of his "free" time working with me.  Unfortunately I still have not tracked his issue down, but am hopeful we are getting close.

Thanks Ninten-doh!  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :notworthy:  :notworthy:  :notworthy:

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2006, 10:57:42 pm »
FF, you're totally welcome!  It's the least I can do to "give back" to you and the other programmers who come up with these great free programs and plug-ins.   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Good news is the latest beta you sent me is just about perfect!  A minor(?) desktop flicker when exiting games is the only remaining issue I seem to have.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2006, 09:57:51 am »


Popcorrin: Did you try the plugin with UltraMap in its own directory first or just go directly to installing in the same directory?

Thanks guys!



I first tried it with ultramap in its own directory and I could not get it to work.  I only tried for a little bit.  I couldn't see any problem with have the ultramap software in the mala folder so I did this instead.


Popcorrin:  Any chance you are using a shortcut to start MaLa?



I am not using a shortcut to start MaLa.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2006, 10:48:35 am »

Popcorrin:  Any chance you are using a shortcut to start MaLa?



I am not using a shortcut to start MaLa.


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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2006, 06:14:27 pm »
If so it could be the same issue I had with the 'speech' plug-in. You can either add the path into the 'start-in' section of your short-cut or fat-fingers can re-code to set the working directory.

I'm not sure if this is of any help, but when writing dll's it's handy to be able to get the path to it so you can work with files in the same folder. Check out Delphi tip#98.

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2006, 06:27:03 pm »

Delphi, Delphi, Delphi...who are you people?!?!?   ;)

Thanks.  The next version of the plugin is already written and will include the ability to know what directory the dll is running in (oh, and to find maps for clones so you don't need maps for each clone, just the master!).



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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2006, 04:26:50 am »
Delphi, Delphi, Delphi...who are you people?!?!?   ;)

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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8 Version 1.1 now released (1/18/07)
« Reply #78 on: January 18, 2007, 09:17:51 am »


Version 1.1 of this plugin is now available for download from here.

The major feature of this release is that now you don't have to have a game-specific map for all clones of a game!  For example, if you have a qbert.ugc file, now that file will also work for the qberta.ugc rom, etc.

Search order for maps is:

rom name .ugc file
if a clone of a rom, the clone of rom name .ugc file
control specific .ugc file (2way, 4way, etc.)


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Re: UltraStik Mapper plugin for MaLa 1.0RC8 Version 1.1 now released (1/18/07)
« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2007, 01:03:56 pm »
FF, does the plugin work with other emulators?  For example, if I install Daphne, will it work if I create maps for each Daphne game or is the plugin MAME specific?

  
 

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