Author Topic: MOD: Suzo Universal Inductive (Read 30726 times)

Level42 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:29:38 pm »

Kowal, sounds sweet. Actualy, put me up for 4 sets. I've just received an extra set of Inductives from the States, and I bet I will be equipping them with your handles too eventualy.

Would be nice to do a group order for the balls. I'd go for the meshball anyday. It fits perfectly to my cab theme. I know it's a lot more expensive then the regular one's, but I don't care really...

Kowal, if the time for payments come, could you check with your bank for the IBAN number of your bankaccount and the BIC code of your bank. I can tansfer you the money without any costs for you or me with this information.

Thanks !

Grasshopper · « **Reply #41 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:53:47 pm »

Hi Kowal,

I've decided to buy six shafts as I own six inductive joysticks. In for a penny in for a pound as they say.

However, I'd rather not commit on the ball tops yet until the pricing has been finalised.

Level42 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 23, 2006, 05:27:15 pm »

Kowal, if you can get the deal through with akihabarashop I would like to order:

2x Sanwa LB-35-MP (Meshball)
2x Seimitsu LB-39 clear bubbleball WHITE (Clear)

kowal · « **Reply #43 on:** July 23, 2006, 05:37:35 pm »

I wait on rods from stainless steel. I should it have in this this week. Turner will execute handles 7-10 days. how it will finish I will order balls.

Kremmit · « **Reply #44 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:32:13 pm »

Assuming you can work out a payment option for US customers, I'm down for two handles, and two meshballs (Sanwa LB-35-MP).

davieboynj · « **Reply #45 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:42:39 am »

Once all the smoke clears from this, if anyone has them, I'd be interested in buying someone's old 32 mm suzo sticks. I currently have the 35mm ones and they're a bit too tall/large for a cocktail. Please don't throw them away!

Thanks!

Level42 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:07:17 am »

Well, Kowal's mod can be done on a 32 mm or a 35 mm handle, doesnt really matter, cause the base is exactly the same.

I traded my last 32 mm handle with Dizzle. Throwing them away would be very stupid in any case, since the electronics part is exactly the same on the 32 and the 35 mm handle versions, so good to keep spare.

I got my last 3 35 mm handle inductives from www.tntamusements.com. Don't know if they also have the 32 mm version. Suzo Netherlands still has those in a reasonable amount though.
Let me know if I can be of help if you'd like to order them there.

kowal · « **Reply #47 on:** July 24, 2006, 04:50:48 am »

I have 2x original sticks suzo 32mm. I can it sell 6 $ for one
but balltop 32mm is very uncomfortable

destructor · « **Reply #48 on:** July 24, 2006, 07:42:54 am »

How looks bubble ball:

Level42 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 24, 2006, 01:14:15 pm »

Thanks Destructor, I was about to ask if anyone had a good pic of one of those. You don't happen to have a shot like that of a clear (white) bubbleball, do you ?
If not, I get the idea and I like 'm. Sad that the bubbleballs do not come in red !!!

Grasshopper · « **Reply #50 on:** July 24, 2006, 02:28:27 pm »

I think it's worth mentioning that Ponyboy sells Sanwa/Seimitsu compatible ball tops in a variety of colours including the bubbleballs for $3 each.

Level42 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 24, 2006, 03:19:34 pm »

Well if Kowal is going to order in Japan anyway:
200.00 JPY = 1.71219 USD for a bubble ball.

Of course we should add mailing costs etc. but if Kowal does the "group-buy" I think that will be about as expensive or even less then ordering from Ponyboy from the US. He needs to ship to Europe as well so that would add costs too.

And I haven't seen the Meshball on offer by Ponyboy.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #52 on:** July 24, 2006, 03:54:30 pm »

Hmm, that's a lot cheaper than I expected. to be honest I hadn't done the yen conversion. I was simply going by Kowal's $3-$5 estimate.

I'm thinking we should also do a group order of matching dust washers (preferably Sanwa because they cover a bigger hole than the Seimitsu washers). What do you think?

kowal · « **Reply #53 on:** July 24, 2006, 04:08:21 pm »

these washer (on akhibara shop) they are have narrow 38mm. I have in house 4.
seimitsu - 37mm

davieboynj · « **Reply #54 on:** July 24, 2006, 04:27:17 pm »

Quote from: kowal on July 24, 2006, 04:50:48 am

I have 2x original sticks suzo 32mm. I can it sell 6 $ for one
but balltop 32mm is very uncomfortable

Thanks for the offer, but i'd like to get them a little bit more locally, or 4 at once.

not a need, really... more of a want...

Quote from: Level42 on July 24, 2006, 04:50:48 am

Throwing them away would be very stupid in any case, since the electronics part is exactly the same on the 32 and the 35 mm handle versions, so good to keep spare.

Sorry for the confusion, i just want the handles, not the electronics.

I think i may be the only one who likes the european handles. I think they're much nicer than balltops or bat-tops...

Level42 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 24, 2006, 05:36:38 pm »

OK, I got it haha ! Well...if you scroll up all the way you see I think the "standard" handles are fine too, at least they play fine. However I have to admit the ball handle with steel shaft looks a lot nicer, but I wonder what will be playing better.....

On the other hand, Kowal's doing some great work and I want to give them a try definitly so that's why I ordered mine. I think I'll be not playing any worse than normaly

Grasshopper: I think Kowal included shipping costs etc. so then yes 3 bucks would be very reasonable.

Kowal, may I ask why you want to wait with the balltop order until the shafts are done ?
My order is definitly 4 shafts and the balls I mentioned.

kowal · « **Reply #56 on:** July 24, 2006, 06:03:42 pm »

My friend which does these handles it can it make only when it is in parcy on night. He works in night by week in month only. This large institution. They use computer lathe there. The throw of series has to be the large (100-1000). He will execute this by small lathe hand because this small quantity (10). And it does not want to boss hung on

. so it waits on night duty

I can not know exact deadline when he will execute this.
it does not want to wait and to keep nobody. therefore will to he made handles first and when I will be it he had I will order balls.

destructor · « **Reply #57 on:** July 25, 2006, 10:04:27 am »

Quote from: Level42 on July 24, 2006, 01:14:15 pm

Thanks Destructor, I was about to ask if anyone had a good pic of one of those. You don't happen to have a shot like that of a clear (white) bubbleball, do you ?
If not, I get the idea and I like 'm. Sad that the bubbleballs do not come in red !!!

Sory but I have only blue bubble ball (2). I'm evil for myself now that I didn't buy each colour.

Quote from: Level42 on July 24, 2006, 01:14:15 pm

Well if Kowal is going to order in Japan anyway:
200.00 JPY = 1.71219 USD for a bubble ball.

Of course we should add mailing costs etc. but if Kowal does the "group-buy" I think that will be about as expensive or even less then ordering from Ponyboy from the US. He needs to ship to Europe as well so that would add costs too.

Believe me that ordering from Japan to Europe is very expensive. It is good for very large order only.

davieboynj · « **Reply #58 on:** July 26, 2006, 01:32:19 pm »

Since all the Suzo people are here anyway, just figured I'd add another mod here. It's kinda obvious, but nice, and some of you may have overlooked so i'll share it...

IF you want complete smooth motion (no notches) out of your inductive, do the following:

Remove the plastic cover in the bottom.
Remove the circuit board.
Pop off the ~~C-clamp~~ Omega clamp from the stick, and take out the shaft.
Wrap a small piece of gritty sandpaper around your finger (grit facing outside

) and twist away where the shaft was until the bumps are no more.
Put it back together.
Voila! Enjoy your new quiet, silky smooth inductive controller.

and another small tip: if the joystick engages more quickly in one direction than the other, you can play with some of the other pots on the board and easily fix it. I had one controller that kinda bothered me for a while and after i fooled with it, it's perfect.

horseboy · « **Reply #59 on:** July 26, 2006, 02:06:14 pm »

Kowal, if it is possible, I would also be interested in 4 of these.

Level42 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 26, 2006, 03:43:08 pm »

Quote from: davieboynj on July 26, 2006, 01:32:19 pm

Since all the Suzo people are here anyway, just figured I'd add another mod here. It's kinda obvious, but nice, and some of you may have overlooked so i'll share it...

IF you want complete smooth motion (no notches) out of your inductive, do the following:

Remove the plastic cover in the bottom.
Remove the circuit board.
Pop off the ~~C-clamp~~ Omega clamp from the stick, and take out the shaft.
Wrap a small piece of gritty sandpaper around your finger (grit facing outside ) and twist away where the shaft was until the bumps are no more.
Put it back together.
Voila! Enjoy your new quiet, silky smooth inductive controller.

Yeah, I'd thought of that, but I actualy like the bumps. I guess it's annoying when playing games that require a lot of circular movement, which are probably fighters, and since I hardly ever play fighters.....OK Robotron would benefit from this greatly too.....
I wonder though, do you still feel you can easily hit directions (4 way, or the 8 way corners f.i.) ?

Quote from: davieboynj on July 26, 2006, 01:32:19 pm

and another small tip: if the joystick engages more quickly in one direction than the other, you can play with some of the other pots on the board and easily fix it. I had one controller that kinda bothered me for a while and after i fooled with it, it's perfect.

Yeah I experienced this when tweaking with the 4/8 way pot. In a certain position, I COULD hit diagonals on the top side, but NOT on the bottom side. Is this what you mean ? And do you have an idea of what pot does what ?

Kowal: OK I understand about this !

I think the order list needs an update:
Grasshopper - 6
Level42 - 4
Kremmit - 2
Horseboy -4
= 16

Destructor: I was so unkind to inquire about the balls with Akihabarashop and f.i. for sending 4 balltops (35 mm) the shipping and handling costs added up to 1665 yen =

kowal · « **Reply #61 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:06:11 pm »

with end of week I will close the list.
I ordered 20 ferryt cores.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #62 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:24:35 pm »

Kowal, what sort of glue are you using to stick the ferrite rings to the shaft? I'm thinking that perhaps it might be better if the rings were held in place with a nut or circlip. Or would that affect the induction?

kowal · « **Reply #63 on:** July 27, 2006, 05:47:15 am »

I use two - component glue 'Poxipol'. He is strong glue. it dries in 5-10min it after 24h hardens.
if I will use nuts this field can shatter. E - clip can again hinder about PCB.

davieboynj · « **Reply #64 on:** July 27, 2006, 07:43:30 am »

I'm surprised i held out as long as i did.

I'm in for two.

Set wife to "kill".

Level42 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 27, 2006, 12:05:48 pm »

Quote from: kowal on July 27, 2006, 05:47:15 am

I use two - component glue 'Poxipol'. He is strong glue. it dries in 5-10min it after 24h hardens.
if I will use nuts this field can shatter. E - clip can again hinder about PCB.

Yeah, and remember those ferrite things don't weigh anything...

Level42 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 05, 2006, 11:00:47 am »

Any news Kowal ?

Not stressing you, just curious

kowal · « **Reply #67 on:** August 05, 2006, 12:11:11 pm »

I have already material: rods and ferrite. on Monday or Tuesday it will pass on it friend. Grasshopper wants to use washer Sanwa. if you want to make this similarly there is no sense to use pivot and collar. It was it been possible to make new project - right foto (dimensions were it been possible to establish)

Level42 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 20, 2006, 04:26:32 pm »

Any news Kowal ?

kowal · « **Reply #69 on:** August 20, 2006, 05:15:47 pm »

Probably they are already finished. I will check tomorrow.
I had several problems

' sorry

kowal · « **Reply #70 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:56:12 am »

he did not make

he told me to wait till future week

kowal · « **Reply #71 on:** September 17, 2006, 02:40:38 pm »

on Friday I got handles

I apologize for delay

but my friend smashed leg. I had to wait until they will take off him gypsum. I have 16 copies handle & 16 copies pivot
photo soon...

price 9$ for handle without balltop. I have to order balls if someone does not want to wait, it can buy only handle.

written persons have precedence.

pivot is for free (only 1 pivot for 1 stick!)
- 14 small pivot copies (to change from original black pivot)
- 2 longer pivot copies (to change from original black pivot & collar)

mail be insured on 12 $:
- mail to UK - 4,5$ (priority 5,5$)
- mail to USA - 4,5$ (priority 6,5$)

problem it is from payment money to Polish from behind UK... but I will think up something

Level42 · « **Reply #72 on:** September 17, 2006, 03:42:07 pm »

Hey great news Kowal !

Sorry to hear about your friend, hope he's fine now (gypsum=cast, at least I guess).

I assume mail to The Netherlands (where I live) will be the same as for the UK ?

I don't quite understand about the pivots. Can we choose ? And what exactly are the differences ?

Can you PM me your IBAN and BIC/Swift code so I can send you the payment.
Please confirm me the total amount for the 4 handles I ordered plus shipping etc.

Thanks !

kowal · « **Reply #73 on:** September 17, 2006, 04:38:40 pm »

pivoty are wider. joystik acts better.

This is not necessary but you can taste. This can does not act with all versions.
This free addition.

destructor · « **Reply #74 on:** September 18, 2006, 03:22:23 am »

Quote from: kowal on September 17, 2006, 02:40:38 pm

problem it is from payment money to Polish from behind UK... but I will think up something

From PayPal site:

Quote

Amendment to the User Agreement
Notice Date: August 10, 2006
Effective Date: September 14, 2006
Beginning September 14, 2006, registered PayPal users in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Thailand will be able to receive funds into their PayPal accounts as well as withdraw them to a local bank account.

Then PayPal should be shortly available in full version to us. (it should be 14.09 but I see that it still doesn't work) Maybe wait a while?

Grasshopper · « **Reply #75 on:** September 18, 2006, 01:51:39 pm »

That's great news Kowal. I'm still interested in buying six handles.

But I'm also a bit confused about the pivots. Why are there two different types? And what are the advantages/disadvantages of each?

kowal · « **Reply #76 on:** September 18, 2006, 02:09:24 pm »

if someone wants to use washer not need collar (need only longer pivot) but only if you mount joystick in 18mm wood!
I have made in my AcadeStickPanel so. I installed him in wooden panel 18mm, collar disturbed me.

Grasshopper · « **Reply #77 on:** September 23, 2006, 06:49:45 am »

I thought I'd bump this thread as Kowal has just contacted me about payment.

I'm wondering how many people here are still interested in making a group order of balltops from Akibahara? And if so how many balls would you be purchasing?

The reason I ask is that Kowal can sell the shafts on their own, or with red balltops. Red would be OK but I'd prefer a range of colours. However, it will only be economical to order from Akibahara if a fairly large quantity of balltops are bought in one go.

Level42 · « **Reply #78 on:** September 23, 2006, 08:23:57 am »

Yes I'm still up for a group-buy of balls. My wishlist:

2x Sanwa LB-35-MP (Meshball)
2x Seimitsu LB-39 clear bubbleball WHITE (Clear)

Level42 · « **Reply #79 on:** September 27, 2006, 06:02:54 pm »

So are we going to do a groupbuy of balls or not ?

I am still witing with the payment to yoou Kowal because of this.


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