Author Topic: Leafswitches - Check this out!!!!!!!! (Read 35801 times)

Stingray · « **Reply #40 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:44:48 am »

Okay. Wow. Cool.

-S

Santoro · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2006, 10:54:33 am »

Randy, I didn't mean to imply 'sour grapes.' Just a good-natured elbow and wink.

kelemvor · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:09:11 am »

What are the main difference in in functinoality between micros and leafs other than the clicking of the micros? Do they last longer or are more reliable or anything like that?

Level42 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:15:16 am »

I think that has been discussed on this forum about a Zillion times....
Try the Search function

sorry but can we stick to the topic please ?

EDIT.....sorry bit grumpy response, but seriously, you can find lots of threads about this on this forum. Do a Search on "leafs" and "microswitch" and have fun

seanp · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:16:04 am »

What kind of price are we looking at for these switches... I'm probably in for 18, maybe more depending on how cheap they are. Is this a one-shot order? We may need to stock up if so...

GGKoul · « **Reply #45 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:19:27 am »

Quote from: kelemvor on February 02, 2006, 11:09:11 am

What are the main difference in in functinoality between micros and leafs other than the clicking of the micros? Do they last longer or are more reliable or anything like that?

Look up in the thread.

Kremmit · « **Reply #46 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:23:54 am »

Quote from: quarterback on February 01, 2006, 11:47:36 pm

It's not a completely new idea (activating leafs using micro buttons), but the first easy implementation of it that I've ever seen. I know that somebody has rigged leafs to be triggered in the same manner, but it involved little wooden blocks attached to the underside of the CP (I think) or some other way to put the ends of the leafs into the right place.

I think that was me, here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=37034.msg328503#msg328503

Never got around to it. This looks much easier- I'll take a bunch when they're ready.

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 02, 2006, 11:50:19 am »

Quote from: ponyboy on February 01, 2006, 07:13:02 pm

What you are looking at is a leafswitch that fits in a bracket that takes the same space as a micro switch in any Horizontal Button.

Please give me some feed back. They will be ready to purchase in 7 - 10 days.

I will be posting more pic's.

Ponyboy

Please let us know the cost when you find out. I might swap my whole panel for these if the price is right...

Silver · « **Reply #48 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:00:19 pm »

This may be a dumb question but thought I'd ask - can just the bottom leaf componet be used to replace a microswitch in a standard button? Or is the moulded plastic of the button itself different?

RayB · « **Reply #49 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:13:21 pm »

POnyBoy can you post the total length please? Or total length that extends beyond the button's diameter? I need to see if I evn have room to swap these babies in...

pointdablame · « **Reply #50 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:17:21 pm »

This is really amazing, its such a simple idea. Great job PonyBoy.

Please give us an idea on price though, I may need to replace a few panels with these things.

Stingray · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:18:11 pm »

Quote from: RayB on February 02, 2006, 12:13:21 pm

POnyBoy can you post the total length please? Or total length that extends beyond the button's diameter? I need to see if I evn have room to swap these babies in...

That's a good point. I probably don't, at least in my MAME cab. Still, I'll probably buy a handfull to use on a future project.

-S

RandyT · « **Reply #52 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:29:05 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on February 01, 2006, 07:44:00 pm

Oh, will they be compatible with Randys RGBDrive?

I might be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Based on the picture, I'm fairly certain that these won't work with the RGB-Drives.

The footprint is different from a standard micro.

RandyT

ponyboy · « **Reply #53 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:37:23 pm »

Randy, when I receive them I could send you a sample if you like.

Let me know.

Ponyboy

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #54 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:39:03 pm »

I don't think it would work with the RGB-Drive either.
Unless you took a knife to the top of the fixture (where the RGB-Drive gets installed) here...

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:43:32 pm »

Do we replace just our microswitches with this? Or is this for the leaf switch AND the button? Meaning the button isn't identical to a microswitch button...

Santoro · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:44:14 pm »

Yes, you just replace your microswitch. It will work with existing horizontal pushbuttons.

RandyT · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:47:30 pm »

Quote from: JoyMonkey on February 02, 2006, 12:39:03 pm

I don't think it would work with the RGB-Drive either.
Unless you took a knife to the top of the fixture (where the RGB-Drive gets installed) here...

It looks like there is a support structure under there. Removing it might be bad/difficult.

Looks like these were made specifically for the button, rather than a generic micro replacement. Which means, they probably wouldn't work for joys either.

RandyT

mahuti · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:49:07 pm »

Heck, when they come in, I'll buy and test. Since I already have my RGB-drive buttons in, shouldn't be to painful.

Santoro · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2006, 12:56:04 pm »

Pure speculation here, but with the 'pins' portruding through the leaf gizmo, if those horizontal bits are supports they probably aren't bearing a lot of 'load.' You might be able to get away without one side.

Quote from: RandyT on February 02, 2006, 12:47:30 pm

Quote from: JoyMonkey on February 02, 2006, 12:39:03 pm
I don't think it would work with the RGB-Drive either.
Unless you took a knife to the top of the fixture (where the RGB-Drive gets installed) here...

It looks like there is a support structure under there. Removing it might be bad/difficult.

Looks like these were made specifically for the button, rather than a generic micro replacement. Which means, they probably wouldn't work for joys either.

RandyT

ponyboy · « **Reply #60 on:** February 02, 2006, 01:01:59 pm »

These brackets were made specifically for the horizontal buttons. They will not work on a joystick. You cannot use the leafswitches for Wico sticks.

Like I said in my post above if everyone is interested if they will work on Randy's board I will send samples to Randy, no problem. Randy just let me know.

Thanks,

Ponyboy

DefJam · « **Reply #61 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:12:30 pm »

I don't post here often, but this just rocks.... I can't take the clicks anymore... where do we sign up.

Voodooray · « **Reply #62 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:20:41 pm »

If i'm wrong i appologise but, these are on a 12 year year old cp i have.
If your planning on patenting them you might want to make sure nobody else already has.

VoodooRay.

Clonedsheep · « **Reply #63 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:22:57 pm »

I was just about to buy some leafs tranlucent buttons and since the colors were limited at 2 places, I was going to have to mix long and short ones. If they test to feel like my Leaf buttons I will be down for 20.

Havok · « **Reply #64 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:24:00 pm »

This is great - I detest the clicks on the buttons. With my P360's, I can have a nice quiet panel.

What kind of price are we looking at? It appears you will be selling a bazillion of these, so hopefully you get a bulk deal?

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #65 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:26:45 pm »

Quote from: Voodooray on February 02, 2006, 02:20:41 pm

If i'm wrong i appologise but, these are on a 12 year year old cp i have.
If your planning on patenting them you might want to make sure nobody else already has.

VoodooRay.

Wow! That looks like them alright (or something very similar anyway). How do you like them?

Voodooray · « **Reply #66 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:35:43 pm »

They are great, just what you expect. All the good points of a leaf switch with the convenience of a micro.
The ones i have came on an old cp i got for 4 pounds along with 2 joysticks.
Their getting a bit old now though.

VoodooRay.

ponyboy · « **Reply #67 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:41:42 pm »

Voodooray, thanks for the pic. I told you they were old.

I have a price but you will have to hold on until this evening. I will put it on my on going thread in the Buy/Sell/Trade section.

I would like to thank all for the on going support.

Ponyboy

whammoed · « **Reply #68 on:** February 02, 2006, 02:45:09 pm »

Quote from: Voodooray on February 02, 2006, 02:35:43 pm

They are great, just what you expect. All the good points of a leaf switch with the convenience of a micro.
The ones i have came on an old cp i got for 4 pounds along with 2 joysticks.
Their getting a bit old now though.

VoodooRay.

I notice in that pic there is a plastic bit in between the switch and the actuator. This makes it seem like these aren't adjustable like a regular leaf switch button...is this true? It seems like there is maybe a 1/16 to 1/8 inch gap between the actuator on the button and the plastic bit of the leaf assembly. I have heard some say that one reason they like leafs is they can adjust the the length of actuation to nothing.(I wouldn't personally comment as I have only installed microswitch before) Anyway, I am going to try some kind of leaf on my next project so I am hoping you have some insight on these for my curiosity...
I will be buying some regardless though, so put me down for some ponyboy! quantity depends on price.

Santoro · « **Reply #69 on:** February 02, 2006, 03:06:47 pm »

I am amazed that these were produced in the past and no one brought them back until now, really not even mentioned. They must be pretty damned rare.

~~Also, looking at that pic, I'll bet you could easily carve a pice of the white plastic away on the top left to make the RGB drive fit.~~ Oops, what Joymonkey said.

Level42 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 02, 2006, 03:45:55 pm »

Yeah, my bet is Ponyboy has dived into the catacombs of HAPP, wearing a miner's hat with lamp and dug for days to find these

They look well-built.

RayB · « **Reply #71 on:** February 02, 2006, 04:27:21 pm »

PonyBoy when will you answer my question?

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #72 on:** February 02, 2006, 06:22:26 pm »

Quote from: RayB on February 02, 2006, 04:27:21 pm

PonyBoy when will you answer my question?

Based on the photo that Voodooray posted, here's a rough scale (these measurements should be within 1/16" of the actual measurements).

ponyboy · « **Reply #73 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:27:21 pm »

JoyMonkey, you the man. Measurements are exact.

Thank you,

Ponyboy

ponyboy · « **Reply #74 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:29:42 pm »

Okay, pricing is posted. It is under my usual thread in the Buy/Sell/Trade section

Thanks,

Ponyboy

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #75 on:** February 02, 2006, 07:57:48 pm »

Man I can hardly wait!

steptoe · « **Reply #76 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:29:33 pm »

They look good, but, can someone please explain the difference between using a micro and one of these. Excuse my ingorance, (and spelling maybe) Thanks

Santoro · « **Reply #77 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:30:57 pm »

Depending on who you ask, most would say microswitches click way too much.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #78 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:36:10 pm »

As has been said... search for microswitch and leaf. You'll learn a ton.

I had built 2 control panels before stumbling across the differences and I'll never go back. I always wondered why the Happ (joysticks) didn't feel like I remembered games from the 80's.

Essentially it comes down to two things.... noise and resistance. The microswitch noise I can live with, but the FEEL is completely different. With a leaf switch you don't feel the actuation. Sounds like a subtle difference but it is very noticeable.

RayB · « **Reply #79 on:** February 02, 2006, 08:37:51 pm »

Thank you Measurement man.


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