Author Topic: CT vs. CC - The "Misinformation Ends Here" cagematch (Read 11914 times)

Crazy Cooter · « **on:** September 27, 2005, 03:36:17 pm »

Stakes: CC's signature banner, CT's signature banner.
Rules: CT must prove CC has privided misinformation. CC must prove CT wrong.

Up for the challenge CT? I've got my chin out. Take the first shot and show me a post I made Re: MAME & Foley that contains what you think is misinformation. If I can't prove it, you win. If I do prove it, I win. Best 3 of 5. I'll put a poll up and everyone can vote who won when we're done.

Topic 1: ? Choose what thou wilt.

Harry Potter · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2005, 03:37:54 pm »

How bout 'Topic 1: When will this topic visit post hell?'

ChadTower · « **Reply #2 on:** September 27, 2005, 03:38:16 pm »

Sure.

ChadTower · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2005, 03:39:21 pm »

If anyone wants, I'll give up my sig image voluntarily anyway. I generally don't like sig images. I took this one because I almost wet my pants when I saw it.

Stingray · « **Reply #4 on:** September 27, 2005, 03:52:23 pm »

Use this one instead.

-S

ChadTower · « **Reply #5 on:** September 27, 2005, 03:54:09 pm »

Stingray... make me a good one commenting on Mr C's choice of cheesecake and I'll use it.

Stingray · « **Reply #6 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:02:36 pm »

ChadTower · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:08:54 pm »

See, I don't want just Richard Simmons, I want his connection to Mr C calling him cheesecake. I don't have photoshop here, though, nor FTP to a webserver.

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:11:49 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 27, 2005, 03:54:09 pm

Stingray... make me a good one commenting on Mr C's choice of cheesecake and I'll use it.

I don't know if my making the joke was worth having to see Mr. Dick Simmons' face more than once. hehe...I fear I'm going to regret it.

mrC

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:13:23 pm »

Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on September 27, 2005, 04:11:49 pm

I don't know if my making the joke was worth having to see Mr. Dick Simmons' face more than once. hehe...I fear I'm going to regret it.

As are the rest of us, it appears. . .

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:16:42 pm »

Remember the "open offer" Foley made when the community backlashed at him?

http://www.havocforums.com/lofiversion/index.php?t3449.html
In the past couple of years, there has been a huge wave of resellers
competing with our UltraCade and Arcade Legends products. They build a
similar style cabinet, install a PC in the machine, load M.A.M.E., and sell
it for a very low price.

Foley was aware of the program for at least a couple years according to his own statement.

ChadTower · « **Reply #11 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:20:54 pm »

You don't have enough admissable proof to back up the criminal part. You have posts from a message board, which are not easily connectable to a specific physical individual. There is no precedent of which I am aware of message board content being deemed admissable to a criminal proceeding.

You would do a lot better with something official, like a press release, an act of commerce, or something that is not a mere internet discussion post.

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:26:39 pm »

It is a press release. That's Foley's "open offer to the MAME community". Remember it? I also have the trademark application.

One says he knew all about it, then he signed saying he didn't. Exibit A, Exibit B. Case closed. Criminally guilty.

ChadTower · « **Reply #13 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:27:20 pm »

Where was this so called press release actually released? What was the delivery method?

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #14 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:30:59 pm »

Posted on his website, sent to slashdot.... it was spread everywhere and quoted everywhere. I even have the original pdf file on the computer downstairs, not to mention it's still in his own messageboards by someone that works there:
http://www.ultracade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1317&sid=ff6a2f442fb45eee99dd73c6ba13dc0d

ChadTower · « **Reply #15 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:31:57 pm »

Not sure if those count legally, but they are sure a lot closer than message board content.

Stingray · « **Reply #16 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:32:38 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 27, 2005, 04:20:54 pm

There is no precedent of which I am aware of message board content being deemed admissable to a criminal proceeding.

Yeah, but this isn't being tried in a court of law. If I understand the rules of this silly game correctly, we, the peanut gallery, are the jury. Most of us are willing to accept posts here at BYOAC as "evidence".

-S

ChadTower · « **Reply #17 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:33:27 pm »

Yep, and I knew going in I was going to lose this one. Like my last post in the real thread, the guy has been tried and convicted here already. Thus, it is a moot contest.

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #18 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:41:30 pm »

message boards may/may not work, but email DOES work in court.

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/21/0415209&tid=203&tid=17&tid=10
Update: 02/21 13:26 GMT by T : UltraCade Technologies CEO David R. Foley contacted Slashdot with an emailed explanation of the filing, reproduced below at his request.

Same text as I mentioned above.

ChadTower · « **Reply #19 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:47:25 pm »

Looks admissable, but given that it is probably after he rescinded the trademark application, the content may or may not be damning in the manner you'd like it to be. That would be up to a judge to determine, and in a case where no provable damage was done, no charges could be filed for that hearing to happen.

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #20 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:48:21 pm »

GUILTY!!

mrC
I can't help myself....

ChadTower · « **Reply #21 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:49:30 pm »

Either way, this contest is pretty much over as I'm not going to convince anyone of anything. Like I said, I entered this knowing it was not winnable. You can have the sig.

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #22 on:** September 27, 2005, 04:57:24 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 27, 2005, 04:47:25 pm

Looks admissable, but given that it is probably after he rescinded the trademark application, the content may or may not be damning in the manner you'd like it to be. That would be up to a judge to determine, and in a case where no provable damage was done, no charges could be filed for that hearing to happen.

Update: 02/21 13:26 GMT by T : UltraCade Technologies CEO David R. Foley contacted Slashdot with an emailed explanation of the filing, reproduced below at his request.

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76627578
Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant's express request.

Date of Status: 2005-03-14

Don't confuse criminal & civil. The civil part could be proven by pulled auctions for lost revenue. The criminal part could be started by filing a complaint with the police.

shmokes · « **Reply #23 on:** September 27, 2005, 08:26:31 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on September 27, 2005, 04:33:27 pm

Thus, it is a moot contest.

This contest is mute.

ChadTower · « **Reply #24 on:** September 27, 2005, 08:29:44 pm »

For all intensive purposes.

Patent Doc · « **Reply #25 on:** September 27, 2005, 10:13:00 pm »

Ohhh Ohhh let me be judge please please can I can I....I'll take motions for summary judgement, motions not withstanding etc...hell I even know what those are as well as a deep apreciation for IP law. Please can I be judge.

Patent Doc

ChadTower · « **Reply #26 on:** September 28, 2005, 08:54:06 am »

Yay, let Patent Doc fill everyone in.

Stingray · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:30:25 am »

Can I be the guy in the back row who is pretending to pay attention, but is actually taking a nap?

-S

Goz · « **Reply #28 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:33:22 am »

Quote from: Stingray on September 28, 2005, 09:30:25 am

Can I be the guy in the back row who is pretending to pay attention, but is actually taking a nap?

-S

Jobs already taken

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:35:51 am »

Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on September 27, 2005, 04:48:21 pm

GUILTY!!

mrC
I can't help myself....

ok, we need to make this picture the first thing that comes up on a google search for ultracade. how do we do this...

Stingray · « **Reply #30 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:10:01 am »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on September 28, 2005, 09:35:51 am

ok, we need to make this picture the first thing that comes up on a google search for ultracade. how do we do this...

In theory if it appeared on a lot of web pages like this one, it might eventually become the number one GIS hit.

-S

ChadTower · « **Reply #31 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:11:28 am »

You would think you'd make a worse photo than that for that purpose.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:14:47 am »

lol nicejob stingray

and really whats worse than that picture??

ChadTower · « **Reply #33 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:15:42 am »

An image of an actual Ultracade with a bunch of text at the bottom explaining your opinion of it.

Stingray · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:46:00 am »

Sorry, I have to stay with the Ultrasimmons.

-S

ChadTower · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:46:44 am »

At least make it something more gay.

Stingray · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:52:10 am »

Without actually using guy on guy porno, I'm not sure how I could make it more gay.

-S

ChadTower · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2005, 10:54:27 am »

I walked past the TV the other day when my wife was watching America's Top Model. The guy talking there made Richard Simmons look like Stallone.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2005, 11:23:48 am »

you better trademark that picture before someone else tries to

Stingray · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2005, 11:25:13 am »

Well, MR. C did create it, but I suppose that I could steal it to keep someone else from doing it.

Next up I'm sending a C&D to Richard Simmons.

-S


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