So why didn't they tase this woman, again and again?

[ChadTower]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/12/fataldog.mauling.ap/index.html

She's so afraid for the safety of her son that she locks HIM in the basement?  Not the dogs?  Or maybe she should have taken the kid with her?  Or gotten rid of the dogs? 

Of course the kid got out of the basement, she incarcerated him!  What if there was a fire?

This woman deserves jail time, and lots of it, and she won't get it.

Pit bulls should not be legal pets anywhere.

[quarterback]

Chad shoots and..... he.... misses EE by about 8 forums



 

[ChadTower]

I don't get it...

EDIT:  oh, now I get it, I accidentally posted in Main.  My bad.

[Crazy Cooter]

This lady is a complete nutjob.

She says the dogs were never aggressive, but she had to lock her kid in the basement for his safety and the cops had to shoot one of the dogs to get in the house.  Now she wants the other one put to sleep...

Why didn't the kid ride with her?  Seems easier than locking him in the basement...

Pit bulls aren't necessarily bad dogs.  I've seen some aggressive ones, but I've seen far more "kick dogs" that were aggressive.  "Bad" dogs come from two places:
1) Bad owners.
2) Bad breeders.

[ChadTower]

Pit bulls aren't necessarily bad dogs.

[Baker535]

Chad,

I think quarterback was referring to you posting this originally in the main forum, a mod moved it.

-baker

[tommy]

I have a pitbull and hes the most calm dog you have ever seen, saying pitbulls are all killer is like saying all blacks are robbers.

[missioncontrol]

"It's Nicky's time to go," she said in the interview. "When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time."

WTF....... This doesn't sound like a grieving mother to me.......

This woman needs to be mauled to death by a pack of dogs......

What is wrong with people anymore?

We just had a mother last month in our surrounding area who locked her 8 year old kid in the trunk of her car while she went and worked a 16 hr shift at a nursing home.....

Here

Sadly the child died from heat exposure...........

I also saw somewhere that a mother gave her 6 and 12 Year old kids $5 to move out.....

here


It's getting to the point I can't turn on the news without hearing of a pathetic irresponsible parent.



Edit: fixed link

[screaming]

I have a pitbull and hes the most calm dog you have ever seen, saying pitbulls are all killer is like saying all blacks are robbers.

  No kidding.  ChadTower probably thinks the same thing about wildebeasts, elephants and lions too.

Go figure.

-sab

[missioncontrol]

I have a pitbull and hes the most calm dog you have ever seen, saying pitbulls are all killer is like saying all blacks are robbers.

The problem is that the good pitbulls do not make the news.....

[ChadTower]

Show me where I said that all pitbulls are killers.

[Dartful Dodger]

I want an elephant.

[tommy]

When you say pitbulls shouldn't be a legal pet, you're saying that because some pitbulls have killed, same difference.

you're still putting a tag on some as all.

It's sad that the poor kid got killed by his dog, no contest there, but the stereotype about these dogs is just not right, i can't even take my peacefull dog and find a new place to live because of the rep.

It all comes down to the training, if it dosen't know what is right and wrong only one person is to blame.

[screaming]

It should be noted that wildebeasts, elephants, and lions are not legal pets

  In the your state, but you didn't qualify your intial statement about pit bulls so why should I assume?

  Besides, I was being light hearted.

  Besides^2, I wonder what the ratio of pitbulls vs pitbulls that kill and humans vs humans that kill is?

-sab

[GGKoul]

The mom is a nut job... Anyone who say's the child was born to get eaten by a dog is a nut job...


"It's Nicky's time to go," she said in the interview. "When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time

[ChadTower]

It's also not legal to have humans as pets, another bad example.

When you say pitbulls shouldn't be a legal pet, you're saying that because some pitbulls have killed, same difference.

How does one argue with that sort of grammar/reading?

[tommy]

When all else fails make fun of the grammer, great tactic. 

[GGKoul]

I for one am happy pitbulls are now banned from being breed in Ontario and have to be muzzled in public from July 1st onwards.

[ChadTower]

When all else fails make fun of the grammer, great tactic.

[tommy]

Whats so hard to understand, you want all pitbulls to be banned as pets because some have killed.

[screaming]

It's also not legal to have humans as pets, another bad example.

  Are you ignoring my post on purpose because you like to just take a few words out of context and argue some random point, or do are you just reading too fast?

-sab

[ChadTower]

So you do understand my position.

[ChadTower]

[tommy]

So you do understand my position.

[ChadTower]

So make your own thread about it, and while you're at it, try to understand the difference between denying a pet license and killing a whole race (or breed, if I extend your stupid analogy enough to make it relevant).

[tommy]

I'm talking about your generalization about a few dogs and all dogs, why can't you undestand it? My comment about my nucle is like a few blacks killed my uncle so all blacks are bad,thats not true and not all pits should be banned, understand your stereotype?

I'm going by your words, how can you not understand them? I'm done here.

[missioncontrol]

Perhaps they shouldn't all and all out ban pitbulls as a pet but they should make rules of owning such an animal...

for instance make it mandatory for the owners to send their dog to get some sort of obedience training, require the owners carry some type of personal property damage insurance on these animals, perhaps a dangerous dog tax........

[ChadTower]

I'm talking about your generalization about a few dogs and all dogs, why can't you undestand it? My comment about my nucle is like a few blacks killed my uncle so all blacks are bad,thats not true and not all pits should be banned, understand your stereotype?

I'm going by your words, how can you not understand them? I'm done here.

Because I haven't said what you say I said.  I did not say all pit bulls are bad, I did not even say any pit bulls are bad.  I said they should not be legal pets.  There are about 5 layers of abstraction between what I said and what you say I said.  See what I'm saying?

[ChadTower]

Perhaps they shouldn't all and all out ban pitbulls as a pet but they should make rules of owning such an animal...

for instance make it mandatory for the owners to send their dog to get some sort of obedience training, require the owners carry some type of personal property damage insurance on these animals, perhaps a dangerous dog tax........

They have all been tried.  The people who own the dangerous ones, accurately stated by someone in this thread as the cause, are bad owners.  Bad owners don't follow the rules, same as they don't control/properly treat their dogs.

Realistically, all banning pit bulls as pets would do is increase the punishment for owning them.  That woman loved her dogs more than her child, and would have had them even if they weren't legal to have.  Making them illegal would give them leverage to put her ass in jail where it belongs.

A GOOD analogy here is to drunk driving... you can punish the drunk drivers all you want, but they keep driving drunk.  We can't ban driving outright, though, the way we could ban pit bulls as pets.

[tommy]

Tell me why they should not be legal pets and this nonsense will be all over?

[ChadTower]

I did state my position and the reasoning for it, several times.

I have ignored much of what you've said because it was offensive enough that I'm surprised this thread hasn't been sent to post hell.

[missioncontrol]

Tell me why they should not be legal pets and this nonsense will be all over?

just turn on the six o'clock news and see how often you hear of someone being mauled by one...........

[ChadTower]

On that note, I say we ban soccer balls.  I see what happens to that poor girl in your avatar, and it keeps happening over and over again!

[missioncontrol]

On that note, I say we ban soccer balls.

[ChadTower]

Bubble, basement, what's the difference?  I STILL have pants on, and that is the real problem.

[tommy]

Tell me why they should not be legal pets and this nonsense will be all over?

just turn on the six o'clock news and see how often you hear of someone being mauled by one...........

You guys don't understand, what your saying is look at the news pits have killed so all are should be banned, thats what you saying, theres no other explaination for banning them. You can't put all in the same boat as some.

[missioncontrol]

also if we made these bubbles out of rubber that would end the taser issue as well..........

[missioncontrol]

Tell me why they should not be legal pets and this nonsense will be all over?

just turn on the six o'clock news and see how often you hear of someone being mauled by one...........

You guys don't understand, what your saying is look at the news pits have killed so all are should be banned, thats what you saying, theres no other explaination for banning them. You can't put all in the same boat as some.

sure you can they are just animals big deal........

Do they have feelings when they maul their victims?

Do they show remorse?

How about letting the victims decide............

[ChadTower]

You guys don't understand, what your saying is look at the news pits have killed so all are should be banned, thats what you saying, theres no other explaination for banning them. You can't put all in the same boat as some.

You don't seem to understand the real mechanics of licensing.

[Dartful Dodger]

my nucle is like a few blacks

My nucle is like brass.

[Shape D.]

Pit bulls are a more agressive dog. No not all of them kill, but are they neccisarry pets?  you are allowed to own a domestic shorthair cat, but not a lion. both are felines, one is dangerous. If a lion is properly trained, and fed, it won't attack people. that doesn't mean you should have them as pets though. what an agressive animal considers "playing" could be dangerous.

legality of owning them aside. nobody with young kids should have an agressive dog. A freind of mine had a pit bull, three months ago his wife gave birth to their first son. 2 weeks before she gave birth they got rid of the dog because they felt it wasn't "safe" around their own child.

and this woman should be charged with something. locking your child in a basement is flat out stupid, and completley unacceptable.

[ChadTower]

my nucle is like a few blacks

My nucle is like brass.

It's pronounced NUK-YUL-ERR.

and this woman should be charged with something. locking your child in a basement is flat out stupid, and completley unacceptable.

Something like criminal negligence, seeing as how she knew her dogs were going to kill the boy and she didn't take proper steps to prevent it.

Besides, wasn't that kid old enough to, you know, send to a friend's house?  There are a LOT of things here that are being left untold, bank on it.

[Shape D.]

and this woman should be charged with something. locking your child in a basement is flat out stupid, and completley unacceptable.

Something like criminal negligence, seeing as how she knew her dogs were going to kill the boy and she didn't take proper steps to prevent it.

You know, if there isn't a charge for it now there should really be some sort of  animal manslaughter charge. if you have a pet that kills someone you should go to jail.  As a person who has had several pets you know what your animal is capable of and what your pet should be around.

[tommy]

Tell me why they should not be legal pets and this nonsense will be all over?

just turn on the six o'clock news and see how often you hear of someone being mauled by one...........

You guys don't understand, what your saying is look at the news pits have killed so all are should be banned, thats what you saying, theres no other explaination for banning them. You can't put all in the same boat as some.

sure you can they are just animals big deal........

Do they have feelings when they maul their victims?

Do they show remorse?

How about letting the victims decide............

Big deal, heh, it's not really about the dog at this point its the idea of making a statement for one and saying all are like that.

It really dosen't matter if its a dog or person, the idea is don't put someone/thing in a certain category because of a select few, its bad enough we have too many stupid laws because of peoples ignorant bad experiences.

It's odd to me how i can have 5 pits in my lifetime and none of them has shown any aggression at all, i guess i'm the only one who got the good bunch of these dogs. 

[Zakk]

This is a crazy argumentative day!

[Avery]

The bouncy ball analogy makes perfect sense if blue bouncy balls were known to be cuttle wuddly 100% of the time.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, just about every large dog breed you care to name has a body count associated with it.

[Dartful Dodger]

Only two nukes have been used to kill people.
Should we be allowed to own them?

Yes.

We should be able to own nukes, napalm, and pit bulls.

[ChadTower]

As for aggression, terriers are reputed to be the worst, it's just that they aren't big enough to take you or I down so we don't worry about them.

[fredster]

I don't like pit bulls either.  My buddy had one he called it "cute".

I saw it grab and tear apart a lawnmower.

It ran through a back door glass to attack the garbage man, and my buddy thought it was "cute".

It wasn't mean to me, but when it got away from him, the cops shot it because it went for a kid on a bike.  And it lived.

My bud was all mad about that.  How could they shoot his poor dog? 

[Jabba]

IMHO, ALL dogs are not to be trusted, especially around young children.

They are animals, have no reasoning capabilities, don't care much than getting the next meal, and pro-creating.

They have no logic, and could go off at any point.

I own a Lab, prolly the most docile Dog on the planet. But I wouldn't trust him alone with a young child. Not that he has EVER hurt anything, just that its a dog, and could go off without ANY reason...

Just my .02 cents...

[ChadTower]

I disagree with generalizing all dogs on those matters.  I grew up around dozens of dogs, we were hunting dog breeders/trainers.  I was never attacked by one, not one time, as a kid.  In fact on multiple occasions I was protected by one or more of them.  The right dog with the right child can be not only safe but a protective measure.  A dog that loves a child will give its own life to protect that child.

[Chris]

The thing I always notice in these pit-bull attacks is the presence of more than one dog.  My impression is that a pit-bull behaves differently in the presence of other pit bulls...

The receptionist on the hospital floor where my sister-in-law works was attacked by a pair of pit-bulls outside her own home on Easter Sunday.  They mangled her and ripped her clothes right off her  She was able to crawl away into a covered porch and watched as the pit-bulls fought over parts of her arm.

I'm sorry, but there is no reason for these animals to be kept as pets.  Down here, they're kept to protect your stash, intimidate your neighbors, or fight in the pit, not as loving companions for your children.  I'm sure with lots of love a tiger or a cougar can be a loving companion, but the average person isn't allowed to keep them as pets, either.

[ChadTower]

The thing I always notice in these pit-bull attacks is the presence of more than one dog.

[Chris]

The thing I always notice in these pit-bull attacks is the presence of more than one dog.

[ChadTower]

Yes, but most breeds of dogs can't rip your arm off.

She didn't let the wookie win.

[Stingray]

I don't think that pit bulls are any more agressive than any other large breed dog. As stated by someone else in this thread, they often act more agressive because they are often abused by their owners who intenitally want to make them mean so they can have something to guard the meth lab or whatever. Make pit bulls illegal and the fecesheads who get their kicks from making a dog mean will just switch to rotwiellers or dobermans or german shepherds or fill in the name of any other large dog.

And for the record I own a pit bull. I found him after someone had hit him with a car and broke his hip bone. After he recovered he turned out to be one of the most docile dogs I've ever owned.

-S

[ChadTower]

Have you ever seen a pit bull in a frenzy?  They are on a completely different level than any other dog in terms of aggression and capability when they get into attack mode.  They're stronger, faster, and more deadly than any other type of dog.  I can't even think of another dog that a fully grown man couldn't save himself from if he REALLY had to, but a pit bull would kill most men just like it would any child.

[Stingray]

No, I have to admit that I have never seen any breed of dog in a frenzy.

-S

[missioncontrol]

It's odd to me how i can have 5 pits in my lifetime and none of them has shown any aggression at all, i guess i'm the only one who got the good bunch of these dogs.

Every pet owner seems to claim that their dog is "a good dog and wouldn't harm anyone".

[monkeybomb]

If we're making gross generalization -

From reading this thread I get the feeling that there are few that know anything about both arcades and dogs.

[ChadTower]

Arcades - indoor creatures.

Dogs - outdoor creatures.

[monkeybomb]

I wish that were true.  I went through a cabinet that I got at an auction and the damn thing had so many leaves in it  you'd think it was a lawn vacum.  It even had feathers and of corse the obligatory slurpee lid.

[danny_galaga]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

[DrewKaree]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

Or a watermelon.  Danny, I went out on a limb with this one....how do I find my way back? I left the bread crumbs in another thread, but I can't be bothered to search right now. 

Oh, and RIND WINS!

_{anyone following the above post please return your seat to the upright position!}

[monkeybomb]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

It be nice if everyone with a mouth had a brain too.

[tommy]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

With the gun you could take care of the dog owner for letting the dog get out of control.

[Raven..]

"It's Nicky's time to go," she said in the interview. "When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time."

WTF....... This doesn't sound like a grieving mother to me.......

This woman needs to be mauled to death by a pack of dogs......

What is wrong with people anymore?

We just had a mother last month in our surrounding area who locked her 8 year old kid in the trunk of her car while she went and worked a 16 hr shift at a nursing home.....

Here

Sadly the child died from heat exposure...........

I also saw somewhere that a mother gave her 6 and 12 Year old kids $5 to move out.....

here


It's getting to the point I can't turn on the news without hearing of a pathetic irresponsible parent.

A lady here in Dallas chopped off her infant's arms, and called her husband at work to tell him.

[danny_galaga]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

It be nice if everyone with a mouth had a brain too.

yeah, if he had a mouth AND a gun he would have been in no danger at all (",)

[danny_galaga]

if only he had a gun on him. which i would have thought anyone who owned a pit bull would also have...

Or a watermelon.

[DrewKaree]

So had I spelt it like so - RYND - you may have gotten it earlier?

Something's wrong with your Engrish....but at least I can follow that.  It just makes you colourful and whatnot.  Goodonya Mate!  Fair dinkum and whatnot.

Somewhere in there I'm offending all....just being a good 'mercan

[Bones]

Jumping in late to this thread

[allroy1975]

This thread is funny.  CT makes one very general statement (again) and (must know that people will assume certain things based on that statement) and then insists he never said anything!  and everyone else keeps going but you said X should be banned!  "I didn't say X should be banned, I said X shouldn't be legal pets".  lol
you guys are killing me!

Chad, this is where you respond saying "don't even get me started on X! it should be kicked out of the alphabet!"

then people will asume that you hate X-Rays and Xylaphones and XXX movies.  I personally like (love in the last case) all 3. 

Allroy

[ChadTower]

Do a string search on this thread.  I have not used the word banned once.

[shmokes]

Shouldn't the topic of this thread be: So why didn't they tass this woman, again and again?

[ErikRuud]

Do a string search on this thread.

[ChadTower]

Do a string search on this thread.

[CCM]

Have you ever seen a pit bull in a frenzy?  They are on a completely different level than any other dog in terms of aggression and capability when they get into attack mode.  They're stronger, faster, and more deadly than any other type of dog.  I can't even think of another dog that a fully grown man couldn't save himself from if he REALLY had to, but a pit bull would kill most men just like it would any child.

Are you kdding me?  What about rottweilers, mastiffs, great danes, dobermans, irish wolfhounds, german shepards....

There are PLENTY of breeds of dogs that could kill a fully grown man...

[Chris]

Have you ever seen a pit bull in a frenzy?

[CCM]

You are correct... Pit Bulls aren't the only breed that should be eliminated as pets.

exactly, we should ban all pets!  A chihuahua could kill a new-born baby!  What if your fish tank is too close to your sleeping baby, and a gold fish jumps out and lands in the baby's mouth, suffocating it...  gold fish are dangerous!

[ErikRuud]

exactly, we should ban all pets!

[tommy]

Guns and pitbulls don't kill people, people do.

[monkeybomb]

Pet laws should be MUCH stricter.  Most good pet owners would have no problem with this.  It's the irresponsible people that would care and get caught anyway.  Banning breeds is just a stupid way to give into an ignorant public and addresses none of the real problemsand dangers of animal control.

As for Pit Bulls, there are lines of Pit Bulls that are breed for fighting.  If the fines for participating in such activities were significant then that problem would go away and we'd just be left with an outstanding companion animal that can easily play with other dogs and children alike.  I have been to over 25 dog parks and frequent a few every week.  The pit bulls never cause problems and my husky loves to play with them.  I also discuss the issue with other dog enthusiast and none of their opinions match you guys.

Anyone who only knows stories from the "news" and hasn't spent LOTS of time around dogs of all breeds, should shut up.  In fact those that don't fit that category and have posted an opinion should be ashamed of themselves.  It suprises me that people feel they can post strong opinions about things they know nothing about, but wouldn't dream of doing so if it were about a joystick.

[shmokes]

I think rottweilers top the list right now as the most dangerous breed.  It varies from year to year based on number of attacks and deaths and stuff.

[ChadTower]

Anyone who only knows stories from the "news" and hasn't spent LOTS of time around dogs of all breeds, should shut up.

[tommy]

When you see a story about a dog killing someone it's the owners fault for not taking care of the dog properly, you wouldn't let the guy who shoots someone go free and destroy the gun.

Take some resposibilty for your actions or lack of.

[ChadTower]

When you see a story about a dog killing someone it's the owners fault for not taking care of the dog properly, you wouldn't let the guy who shoots someone go free and destroy the gun.

Take some resposibilty for your actions or lack of.

You're talking to us - not the owners.  The owners will not follow any laws or take any responsibility.  Dog owners are notorious for this.  How many times have you seen someone bitten by a dog and the owner denies it, saying their dog has never bitten anyone (meanwhile the dog has blood on its chin and you're bleeding)?

A totally rational solution is only effective if enough people cooperate with it.

[monkeybomb]

But does banning pit bulls address any of the problems?  The illegal fighting rings will still be there until the fine for going to a dog fight is a big enough deterrent.   As long as the rings are there then the pit bulls that actually would kill will still be there.  It seems like a political solution that doesn't do anything at all.

[Dartful Dodger]

You're talking to us - not the owners.

[tommy]

He says stop blaming me for my brothers and sisters bad owners, my owner tommy is the greatest.. 

[ChadTower]

But does banning pit bulls address any of the problems?

[Shape D.]

Anyone who only knows stories from the "news" and hasn't spent LOTS of time around dogs of all breeds, should shut up.  In fact those that don't fit that category and have posted an opinion should be ashamed of themselves.  It suprises me that people feel they can post strong opinions about things they know nothing about, but wouldn't dream of doing so if it were about a joystick.

So if you want to tell people who can and can't post in this thread based on their canine experience. Maybe you could fill us in on yours.

[tommy]

But does banning pit bulls address any of the problems?

[monkeybomb]

Anyone who only knows stories from the "news" and hasn't spent LOTS of time around dogs of all breeds, should shut up.  In fact those that don't fit that category and have posted an opinion should be ashamed of themselves.  It suprises me that people feel they can post strong opinions about things they know nothing about, but wouldn't dream of doing so if it were about a joystick.

So if you want to tell people who can and can't post in this thread based on their canine experience. Maybe you could fill us in on yours.

I am simply a dog owner who has spent an enourmous amount of time around dogs.  I have trained serveral dogs.  Studied a few methods and I volounteered at at a shelter to walk dogs.  I enjoy watching TV and reading about dogs just like I do arcade games.  I am not an animal control officer, vet or a dog breeder.  I only believe in adopting dogs.  I wish I ownerd a dog day care as much as most here wish they had an arcade.

[ChadTower]

Anybody walking a dog without a poop bag, should be ticketed.

...and tased, then ticketed again.

Dog walkers should also be required to carry water and fertilizer.

[tommy]

I give up and you bunch, you can't go around banning things based on some bad examples, you can make a case for just about anything where something bad has gone wrong.

[Shape D.]

She walks away.  What could I do?

I picked up my shovel, scooped up the crap, and flung it at her.  Hit her square in the back.  She screamed and yelled and threatened to call the cops on me.  I never heard from any police, so either she didn't or she did and they told her to screw.

I'm sure thats not the appropriate response, but thats what I would have done as well.

[monkeybomb]

I don't care about illegal fighting.  Not ONE bit.  What I want to do is prevent people from being mauled by pit bulls.

I see the rings as being the source for the dogs that will maul people.  I think we simply disagree on the impact of a pit bull ban.  I think many (but not most) people that have pit bulls get them to participate in this activty.  Those people will hide their dog and still do it.  Then those dogs will get out and maul poeple.  I think not issuing a license will only get rid of the responsible owners and not stop maulings. 

Also does all this apply to the american staffordshire terrier?  Most people wanting a pit bull would be happy with that breed if pit bulls were not available.  But some don't want to recognize the difference.

Chad - great job on the poo fling!!! If we could impose that penalty on all irresponsible dog owners, the world would be a much better place. 

Tommy - ban cars, alchohol and sex

[Shape D.]

I don't care about illegal fighting.  Not ONE bit.  What I want to do is prevent people from being mauled by pit bulls.

I see the rings as being the source for the dogs that will maul people.

I highly doubt that the dog in the story related to this thread was involved in pit fighting. I will deffinattley agree with you that most dogs who maul people are due to a crappy owner. either they don't care enough to train their dog properly or they abuse thier dog.

[monkeybomb]

I highly doubt that the dog in the story related to this thread was involved in pit fighting. I will deffinattley agree with you that most dogs who maul people are due to a crappy owner. either they don't care enough to train their dog properly or they abuse thier dog.

Yeah, I should deffinatly clarify that it's a personal suspicion, not something I have read studies on!

[missioncontrol]

and now on the ligher side:


Rules for Non-Pet Owners Who Visit and Like to
Complain About  Pets:

1. They live here. You don't.

2. If you don't want their hair on your   clothes, stay off the furniture.(That's why they call it "fur"niture.)

3. I like my pets a lot better than  most people.

4. To you, it's an animal. To me, he/she is an adopted on/daughter who is short, hairy, walks on all fours and doesn't speak clearly.

5. Dogs and cats are better than kids...They eat less, don't ask for money all the time, are easier to train, usually come when called, never drive your car, don't hang out with drug-using friends, don't smoke or drink.

You don't worry about having to buy the latest fashions, they don't wear your clothes, and don't need a gazillion dollars for college - - - and if they get pregnant, you can sell the children.

OK continue with debate 

[tommy]

The dog didn't have to have been a fighter to kill, most times a dog that lives outside chained down for many years and rarely sees its owner tends to attack anybody.

[Crazy Cooter]

One of my kids ... he isn't a pit bull.  He's a Great Dane / American Bulldog cross.  Almost twice the size of a pit bull.  I had to be "approved" prior to taking him home and had a visit from the adoption agency both before and after doing so.  There were other hoops to jump through too.  Not everyone should own a dog like this.  He chewed a stump out of my backyard and would probably break bones if he ever bit someone.

Instead of regular beatings and steroids, I gave him Science Diet and obedience classes.  I also take him to dog parks and to the pet store.  I don't wiggle baby's in front of him and I can feed him by hand and take his food out of his mouth while he's trying to eat it.  It's all about the breeders and owners.  A responsible breeder will find a responsible owner and versa-visa.

[tommy]

Cool dog, i had a full bread GD and he had many bone problems growing up, the poor dog couldn't even walk his joints hurt so much, thats something the daynes are known for though.

[Shape D.]

Cool dog, i had a full bread GD and he had many bone problems growing up, the poor dog couldn't even walk his joints hurt so much, thats something the daynes are known for though.

Thats something all large breed dogs have a problem with. their bones grow too fast, and it commonly causes a myriad of bone and joint problems.

[danny_galaga]

Have you ever seen a pit bull in a frenzy?

[danny_galaga]

[allroy1975]

Can you imagine if the boy had killed the dog? 

First off there would be animal rights people all over the place ....and you guys would be arguing about banning children.

maybe they should ban that AWESOME attraction Mission Space at disney world.  If it can kill a 4 year old boy..think what might happen to a pit bull in there.

holy crap i'm confused.

Allroy

[Bones]

I am so gutted. I posted the funniest picture of a dog with the biggest nuts you have ever seen and it got erased. Erased from existence.

I suppose it was just as well, I may have used this image as a precedent to post a pic of my own swollen boys......

[Shape D.]

maybe they should ban that AWESOME attraction Mission Space at disney world.  If it can kill a 4 year old boy.

They should ban it, for four year old children or raise the height requirements for the ride.

[ChadTower]

Not many 4 year olds are 44", which is the height requirement for the ride.  I am sure the autopsy will reveal some unknown preexisting condition.

[Crazy Cooter]

Cool dog, i had a full bread GD and he had many bone problems growing up, the poor dog couldn't even walk his joints hurt so much, thats something the daynes are known for though.

He had a slight issue with one of his back legs, but he grew out of it.  His kneecap would slip a bit and I'd have to massage it back into place.  I forget what it was called.

...but i would rather be trying to bash a german shepherds head in than a pit bulls!

A pit bulls skull is thick.  I've seen my sisters dog bash himself into the couch repeatedly trying to get something from under it.  It made me think of the "chicken or the egg" debate. 


Anyhow, ban 44" tall children!  Group them together for a "ride" called "Mission Pit Bull"  and then open the gates for the pitbulls.  Just like the Romans used to do it.

[ChadTower]

He had a slight issue with one of his back legs, but he grew out of it.

[Stingray]

Anyhow, ban 44" tall children!  Group them together for a "ride" called "Mission Pit Bull"  and then open the gates for the pitbulls.  Just like the Romans used to do it.

Now there's a reality show that I'd be sure to watch.

-S

[DrewKaree]

maybe they should ban that AWESOME attraction Mission Space at disney world.  If it can kill a 4 year old boy.

They should ban it, for four year old children or raise the height requirements for the ride.

I'm never concerned about height requirements for rides.  I'm too busy being concerned about trying to enact width restrictions for airplanes

[danny_galaga]

So had I spelt it like so - RYND - you may have gotten it earlier?

oh, you mean like LYNARD SKYNARD, no...oh wait

[ChadTower]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/24/dog.mauling.ap/index.html

[Shape D.]

Good.

[missioncontrol]

Faibish faces a maximum ten years in prison if convicted.

Maximum 10 years........

She should be mauled to death...........

[ChadTower]

She won't get ten years, she'll get 18 months probation if they even convict her.

[missioncontrol]

She won't get ten years, she'll get 18 months probation if they even convict her.

I know she won't get the ten years, but even if she did it still doesn't sound like enough..............