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Author Topic: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)  (Read 13050 times)

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2005, 01:47:23 pm »
Whoa  Doctor chick's got it going on.  ;D

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2005, 03:17:14 pm »
1) Where did you find source pics for this?
2) What software are you using to vectorize?

edit: I think I found my own answer to #2. I downloaded Frostillicus's tutorial on Illustrator, that helped. Is that what you're using?

On a side note, what's the going rate for artwork requests like this?

1) the source for artwork can be very different. The source for this picture was found on a fan-site for Jeff Scott Campell. Other sources are comic books or even stills from DVDs. Sometimes the source can be a pencil sketch.

2) most of the people on this board use Illustrator. I actually use Microsoft Visio 2003 (which isn't designed to draw pretty pictures but flowcharts and network diagrams etc.). There are other vector software packages that work great, Illustrator is the most commonly used (I guess I'm the only one who uses Visio). There is a thread in this forum about (also free) software.
Having said that: Frosty's tutorial is a really good start to get the basics, those work fr whatever software you use and is a must read for starting-artists.

Like other vector artist on this board, going rates aren't generally discussed. See also the 'discussion' in the Proving Grounds artwork discussion.
Suffice to say, a full artwork package (sideart, marquee and controlpanel) like this is not within everyone's budget.
Think 30-50 hours of work and a basic $-per-hour fee and do the math.
It takes lots of time to vectorise this stuff and most of us are doing this in their spare time. Anyway, it has been discussed before and check the Proving Grounds thread for more on this subject.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2005, 03:24:25 pm »
Thanks for the quick reply. Also thanks for the Proving Grounds link. I wasn't looking for a quote, maybe a rough estimate discussed offline / PM. The PG link was a sufficient answer.

Awesome work btw - the Red Monika, Frankenstein, etc.
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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2005, 09:23:47 am »
Felsir, I gotta say...

I don't know what you do for a living, but I've been a professional graphic designer for almost ten years and I've been using Illustrator for even longer (although not as much as Photoshop).

The stuff you're doing takes not only skill, but talent, patience and an eye for artistic detail. I am constantly impressed by your posts and admire your ambition. Everytime I think something you've done looks finished you come along and add even more detail.

Amazing stuff, man. I salute you.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2005, 10:44:44 am »
The stuff you're doing takes not only skill, but talent, patience and an eye for artistic detail. I am constantly impressed by your posts and admire your ambition. Everytime I think something you've done looks finished you come along and add even more detail.

Amazing stuff, man. I salute you.

Thanks for the kind words :)
I actually design/program software for hospitals for living. Some of these things are raw number crunchers so I need a creative outlet

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 9, 2005)
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2005, 01:05:10 pm »
In the U.S.A., the expression would normally be "letting off some steam."  ;)

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2005, 06:53:31 am »
Minor update (though it took me some time to get the colouring right...) Finished parts of the trousers (argh wrinkles are complex) and the Monster's kneecap.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2005, 04:27:06 am »
As usually this looks really good, i cant wait for the finished picture

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2005, 12:34:57 pm »
I too must add to the ego stroking... excellent work! More patience than I would ever have. I see mentioning of source material. Is this composition pieced together from different comics, or is this based off an original and using it as an guide/underlay? Either way it's still amazing... Pixelhugger's assessment and explanation of how the process works is perfect. For people who are learning about these things that is a great reference post.

One quick thought on the marquee... I know you have blue for the lighting flash, but have you tried a different color scheme up there since things have progressed? Since it's a lighter blue it's a little too cheery considering what else is going on, especially when it gets backlit... unless this contrast was intentional? Maybe that hint of purple carried over from the lipstick would work. It might keep it a fun and unique color, but dark enough palette to tie everything together, even when lighted. Just a suggestion to try to help add to the monstrous feel.

Keep up the great work!

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2005, 02:41:09 am »
I too must add to the ego stroking... excellent work! More patience than I would ever have. I see mentioning of source material. Is this composition pieced together from different comics, or is this based off an original and using it as an guide/underlay? Either way it's still amazing... Pixelhugger's assessment and explanation of how the process works is perfect. For people who are learning about these things that is a great reference post.

One quick thought on the marquee... I know you have blue for the lighting flash, but have you tried a different color scheme up there since things have progressed? Since it's a lighter blue it's a little too cheery considering what else is going on, especially when it gets backlit... unless this contrast was intentional? Maybe that hint of purple carried over from the lipstick would work. It might keep it a fun and unique color, but dark enough palette to tie everything together, even when lighted. Just a suggestion to try to help add to the monstrous feel.

Thanks for the praise :)

As there are no surprises in the image anymore: I attached my actual source image, and a composition of the actual image and the vector at the same scale. The source image is used both as a guide and as a underlay (as you can see, the vector isn't a 100% reproduction, but the dimensions are). As I trace I have the image loaded in Visio (as underlay) and in GIMP as guide to get a better overview and 'feel' for the colours and hilights. Also as a 'overview' since in Visio it is covered with vectors and additional help-lines I create - besides, Visio is zoomed in at least 1500% at all times ;)
I also have an image of the sketch J. Scott Campbell made to help me out as it is more detailed but too rough to vectorise. So in all, lots of referencing next to the regular tracework. There are parts that I'm not yet satisfied with - especially Doktor's face should have a more menacing expression.

I plan to have another lightningflash as seen in the overal image (2nd attachment) on the side. Due cab dimension restrictions I'm not sure yet how to include them. I haven't decided yet, but I feel the blue makes a good contrast with the black background. The cabinet will be black too.

(again the board's scaling distorts the images, click the link under them to see the enlarged version)
« Last Edit: May 19, 2005, 02:46:13 am by Felsir »

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2005, 07:53:36 am »
Not to sound too much like a Felsir fanboy....but I personally prefer her face the way you have done it.  Makes her look more like a hottie chick and less like a dirty doctor.  I just think you've added enough of a dimension to her that you have in a lot of way surpassed the original design.  Good work man!

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2005, 02:44:40 am »
Thanks A.D.  :)

No update today. I didn't do any work this weekend since my wife and I had great news: we're expecting twins! A routine pregnancy visit to the hospital revealed two beating hearts and the ultrasound confirmed two babies instead of one. So november this year it is going to be a lot busier in the house than it already is!  ;D

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2005, 09:50:59 am »
No update today. I didn't do any work this weekend since my wife and I had great news: we're expecting twins! A routine pregnancy visit to the hospital revealed two beating hearts and the ultrasound confirmed two babies instead of one. So november this year it is going to be a lot busier in the house than it already is!  ;D


congrats Felsir.

I'll give you some tips after my twins birth on august.

hummm I guess they will be a major slow-down in some WIP posts really soon.
 
I'm on the planning stage

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2005, 10:22:01 am »
TWINS.  holy smokes.

Congrates it will be a very interesting 18 years or until you can kick them out(j/k)


good luck getting to the store at 4am picking up pickles and chocolate covered cashews.
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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 17, 2005)
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2005, 01:04:13 pm »
Congrats Man!  Just teach them to use Visio at a young age.  You \ will have a built in crew!

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 23, 2005)
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2005, 04:15:20 pm »
Thanks everyone

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 23, 2005)
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2005, 07:50:02 pm »
Looking good man!

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 23, 2005)
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2005, 10:07:45 pm »
Congrats on the twins, both Felsir and Zorg! Enjoy that free time while you can... oh, and the artwork is progressing nicely by the way. :)

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated may 29, 2005)
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2005, 01:57:31 pm »
The doctors legs are almost completed. It was surprisingly difficult to pick the right colours.

Next up are the doctor's boots. Tricky with lots of laces...

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 6, 2005)
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2005, 07:15:44 am »
Pfew, finally got the boots finished. Lots of small polygons and lots of tweaking here. I feel that the hardest parts are done, now it's finishing up the image. The rest of the monsters sweater, leg and shoe.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 6, 2005)
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2005, 07:27:35 am »
That is unbelievable. The detail is amazing.

Do you know what size your client intends on printing this?

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 6, 2005)
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2005, 08:25:32 am »
I believe it would be something like 53 inch tall. Not sure though since the initial plans were for a 2 player cab and now he is pondering to switch to a 4 player cab.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 6, 2005)
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2005, 05:01:00 pm »
I'm blown away by not only your sheer talent, but your choice of application as well!  Very unusual. :)

Your art reminds me greatly of an old online artist "Fritz".  I don't see much of his work around any more (Google returns absolutely nothing any more - it's like he just dropped off the face of the planet!).  But anyways, I was also a huge fan of his stuff too.

Brilliant work.

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 18, 2005)
« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2005, 04:16:14 pm »
The monster's shoulder, leg and shoe is done. The only thing left to do is the arm. This baby is finished soon ;D (next project Transformers had a early start  ;) )

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Re: WIP: Frankenstein (updated june 18, 2005)
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2005, 11:17:17 am »
congratulations felsir on the great news
well done on all your great work here too
it'll be great to look back on these days and remember
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Frankenstein (Finished! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2005, 07:34:50 am »
Vectorising finished! I attached a somewhat bigger image, click the link below it to see it in full glory!

Onwards to the next project: AmericanDemon's Transformers. See WIP thread elsewhere in this forum.

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #66 on: June 29, 2005, 08:30:46 am »
Holy Crap!!!!! You are insanely talented!!!!  That is freaking sweet!!!!

Great job man.

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #67 on: June 29, 2005, 08:46:48 am »
Super cool! Be proud of that one. :)

I commend your ability to just jump into the next project. I generally have to take a break. (I still haven't mounted my marquee in my cabinet yet.... :-X)

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2005, 10:23:15 am »
congrats Felsir, a really lovely piece of art.

I hope I could produce same quality one day.
I'm on the planning stage

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2005, 12:00:08 pm »
Felsir, as always I'm amazed at the quality of work that you consistanly are able to produce. Very, very well done.

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2005, 03:35:15 pm »
Raaaarrrrrrr!
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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2005, 05:13:21 pm »
That is brilliant. I truly envy the lucky bugger who ends up with that on the side of their cab.

Thanks for sharing the updates along the way.

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2005, 07:39:01 am »
Thanks everyone!

Tha cab will probably a 4 player Gauntlet based cab (dimension wise). Since the customer is not yet sure of the dimensions further artwork for this cab is on hold (the bezel and CP art is very dimension/layout specific).

Plans are to have the bezel with the two lightning generators on each side of the screen and lightning connecting the two above the screen. Instruction cards wil fit below the screen. The controlpanel will have artwork of another rat sitting on top of it, old style 'needle-style' meters, various nuts/bolts and several sheets of metal. Various parts which are inspired by the original picture.

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2005, 08:37:20 am »
wow man,

looks fantastic!  You sir, are gifted :)

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Re: Frankenstein (FINISHED! june 29, 2005)
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2005, 11:26:36 pm »
I just have to say it, for all you Jay and Silent Bob fans:

You're a tracer, a tracer!

(And a damned talented one, too.)

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