Contest - Monitor comparison!

[OSCAR]

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[1UP]

Here's my guesses:

A-8  B-2  C-1  D-6  E-7  F-5  G-3  H-4

I will give my reasons below, but first, Oscar, if multiple correct answers are given, how do we know that someone didn't just look for the post that seemed to make the most sense (accompanied by the most logical explanations), and copied the matches?  Shouldn't it be determined by the earliest post with the most correct matches?  That way, the one who did the brainwork wouldn't get cheated by losing in the event of a drawing.

Anyway, it's free stuff, and I've already got both a model 1 and a Pro, so I'm not crying if I lose.  Just trying to keep it fun and fair for everyone!  

[OSCAR]

Excellent point.  I was stumbling over wether or not I should allow multiple "winners".  I agree with you, and since there is only a single response so far, I will modify the rules (because I can ) right now that the first "most-correct" response wins.  No drawings will be held.

[mtd]

Great idea Oscar.  I give up already .  However, I think the better contest here is judging which one has the best picture.

Also, since you have all of these available -- I think the community would benefit from a pic in Windows as well.  While I want the most authentic arcade look, I also need to be able to navigate through windows.  Your comparisons might allow me to find the "happy medium".

[OSCAR]

Great idea Oscar.  I give up already .  However, I think the better contest here is judging which one has the best picture.

Also, since you have all of these available -- I think the community would benefit from a pic in Windows as well.  While I want the most authentic arcade look, I also need to be able to navigate through windows.  Your comparisons might allow me to find the "happy medium".

Yes, that will be the natural follow-up to this contest.  I will also provide pictures in Windows where I can, but first I wanted to keep the comparison as even as possible by using all the monitors under a common environment.  I just didn't feel that it would be a "fair" comparison by showing an arcade monitor running under vanilla DOS, and then showing a digital monitor under Windows with lots of tweaks and filters added since I am trying to show just the differences in the monitors themselves.

[1UP]

So here's my case:  (CSI, watch out!   )

Although I don't have access to any of the monitors used (except the Viewsonic), I was able to make certain guesses based on quality and camera angles.  First off, I knew that the sharpest picture HAD to be off a PC monitor, and Viewsonics are no slouch, so F had to be 5.

Next, I knew that to take clear pictures, a tripod would probably have to be used.  And if you're going to take multiple pics of the same monitor, why move the tripod?  So I realized that 3 of the pics seemed to be taken from exactly the same angle.  And there were 2 other pics that seemed to match each other as well (even the moire pattern matched!)  In fact, these pics were so similar, if you overlayed them in photoshop, they matched to within 1/2 a pixel!  Also, I knew that a presentation monitor would probably have the next best picture (given a good connection.)  So I guessed that the NEC accounted for three of the matches (1, 6 and 7 going downward in quality by the type of connection) and the Toshiba TV for the other two (3 and 4.)

By process of elimination, I was down to just the two WG arcade monitors (which should be 2 and 8?)  Just a guess, but the 9100 being the more expensive of the two, I figured it would have the better picture, so it must be 2, while the 19 inch was 8.

Of course, I could be totally off (Oscar's a smart chap after all!   ) Some of the pics that matched in camera angle, varied widely in brightness, and I don't know if using a S-Video connection vs. a composite connection could really account for that.  But that's my guess, and I'm sticking to it!

[JMDickson]

A - 7
B - 6
C - 1
D - 3
E - 2
F - 5
G - 4
H - 8

[rampy]

*rampy goes to register www.ismymonitorhotornot.com*

 

just a thought.. should there be a rule against editing your post? or something... not sure if one could abuse the contest that way... but *Shrug* just a thought...

rampy

[OSCAR]

*rampy goes to register www.ismymonitorhotornot.com*

 

just a thought.. should there be a rule against editing your post? or something... not sure if one could abuse the contest that way... but *Shrug* just a thought...

rampy

I'm copy-n-pasting the guesses as soon as I see them into a text file, so I'll know if the answers have been changed afterwards.  But I guess I'm relying more on the honor system.

[SirPoonga]

Excellent point.  I was stumbling over wether or not I should allow multiple "winners".  I agree with you, and since there is only a single response so far, I will modify the rules (because I can ) right now that the first "most-correct" response wins.  No drawings will be held.

rules should be modified again.  What if someone who comes here every hour gets it correct right away.  No chance for those who come in every couple of day.

You should have a time period when you take votes.  The correct ones will be raffled then.

BTW, I hope I get the viewsonic right, I have th A70, the 17" version of the A90.

[OSCAR]

rules should be modified again.  What if someone who comes here every hour gets it correct right away.  No chance for those who come in every couple of day.

You should have a time period when you take votes.  The correct ones will be raffled then.

BTW, I hope I get the viewsonic right, I have th A70, the 17" version of the A90.

It is very difficult to come up with a set of rules that will fit every situation with a public contest like this.  I guess if someone who comes here every hour ends up with the correct answers, then they win because of their sincere dedication to the BYOAC forums.  

[SirPoonga]

BTW, wow, what a difference.  An A70 on an ATI 128 looks NOTHING like any of those.

[OSCAR]

BTW, wow, what a difference.  An A70 on an ATI 128 looks NOTHING like any of those.

A70 or A70F?  Big difference.

[SirPoonga]

rules should be modified again.  What if someone who comes here every hour gets it correct right away.  No chance for those who come in every couple of day.

You should have a time period when you take votes.  The correct ones will be raffled then.

BTW, I hope I get the viewsonic right, I have th A70, the 17" version of the A90.

It is very difficult to come up with a set of rules that will fit every situation with a public contest like this.  I guess if someone who comes here every hour ends up with the correct answers, then they win because of their sincere dedication to the BYOAC forums.  

What's wrong with my suggestion?  It's the most generic, it makes it fair to everyone.  There are dedicated BYOAC that only come in during the week (while at work).  The only the weekender will see this right now

[1UP]

It is very difficult to come up with a set of rules that will fit every situation with a public contest like this.  I guess if someone who comes here every hour ends up with the correct answers, then they win because of their sincere dedication to the BYOAC forums.  

Yeah, I think this rule, while not perfect, is the most fair, considering that everyone gets to peek at everyone else's answers.  If you wanted to do a raffle, I think a blind system would be more fair, like taking the answers by email.

Also, I think it might not be a bad idea to require that everyone leave their original post unedited (as that could be seen as making multiple guesses.)  If you want to comment, you can make a separate post as I did.  Maybe if you made a mistake in your guesses, you could be required to delete your original post and make another, so you go to the back of the line as a penalty (thus keeping anyone from stealing answers from someone later on, and changing their post to look like they got the right answers first.)

[SirPoonga]

Ok, here's my reply.

A-1
B-5
C-8
D-7
E-4
F-6
G-2
H-3

Explaination.  First, I have na A70, related to the A90.  So I took a pic of my monitor with spyhunter (oscar didn't hardware stretch!)  Note when you look close you "see" the pixels.  There is a pixel, a bit of black, a pixel, a bit of black.   So I looked for the one closest matched mine.  ALSO oscar only used that monitor once, along with each of the wells gardner monitors.  So I just needed to look for the ones that didn't have a pattern like any other shot.  that would be 1,5,and 6.  6 looks the closest to my viewsonic.  The XGA is going to have a fine resolution compared to the other wg.  Go it gets 6 and the other wg gets 1.  Now, he used the NEC 3 times, so 3 pics are going to have a simular pattern.  Looking carefully I see 4, 7, 8 have the same pattern.  They are at different brightnesses, which is interesting.  Any way,   s-video is going to be the higher quality of those, the other two are guesses.  That; leave the toshib and 2 and 3 (which have the same pattern AND look very simular to my toshiba tv).  Same thing, s-video is a better qualtiy so that is how I chose.

Now, I hope my eye for quality is correct.  It'd be funny if the answers were backwards.

[SirPoonga]

Admendment to mine.

Oscar, I can't wait until you post the answers.  I believe I have the monitors right but probably not the connections.

[AlanS17]

F-1
B-5
C-7
H-2
A-4
E-3
D-6
G-8

I'm no expert, but I've got my reasons.  

[SirPoonga]

Oscar, want a pic of spyhunter on a viewsonic A70 17" monitor using an ATI Rage 128 GL?  And a pic of a Toshiba 27" 27A40 TV running a NES hoooked up with the RF modulator and RCA cables running RC Pro AM?  hehe

If so pm me, I'll email the pics, at 2048x1536

BTW, my TV:)
http://www.toshiba.com/tacp/tv/archive/27A40.html

I could also take pics for you of mame on a 20" IBM P200 Trinitron monitor using a crappy computer with onboard video.  hehe, that't my cabinet's system.

[dhansen]

Do you hit pause when you take these pics?  Is there a way to stop mame from dimming the picture when pause is pushed?

Thanks!

Doug

[SirPoonga]

Great idea Oscar.  I give up already .  However, I think the better contest here is judging which one has the best picture.

Also, since you have all of these available -- I think the community would benefit from a pic in Windows as well.  While I want the most authentic arcade look, I also need to be able to navigate through windows.  Your comparisons might allow me to find the "happy medium".

mts, right.  I like pic #7 the best.  The bushes actually look like bushes.

[OSCAR]

Do you hit pause when you take these pics?

No.  MAME's dim-on-pause feature would have screwed up the pics.  That's the other beauty about using Spy Hunter for this:  When the game is started, the counter doesn't start until you hit a control.  This means unlimited time for taking a pic.

Is there a way to stop mame from dimming the picture when pause is pushed?

I imagine it would just require a source code edit.  But I'm not much help there.

[CustomArcade]

OK my HIGHLY SCIENTIFIC guess is:
1F
2H
3A
4B
5E
6C
7G
8D

[dones]

1 - B
2 - A
3 - C
4 - E
5 - F
6 - G
7 - H
8 - D

[Kitbasher]

Here are my guesses:
1 B
2 G
3 C
4 A
5 F
6 D
7 E
8 H
 

[rampy]

5 B
1 F
4 H
2 G
3 D
6 A
7 C
8 E


bah I suck... maybe my oddball choickes will pay off though.l.

rampy

[OSCAR]

bah I suck... maybe my oddball choickes will pay off though.l.

rampy

rampy, the king of SWAG??   Don't be discouraged.  This is not easy, and it's not over until it's over.

[madk]

1-H
2-B
3-D
4-A
5-G
6-F
7-E
8-C

Those are my uneducated assuptions.

[slug54]

A-8
B-4
C-1
D-6
E-7
F-5
G-3
H-2


The free Spinner will make up for the retina damage caused by staring at these pics for an hour.

                                 Slug54

[OSCAR]

1-H
2-B
3-D
4-A
5-G
6-F
7-E
8-C

Those are my uneducated assuptions.

Just so nobody complains about an edited post... I did notice madk's orginal post had a typo and listed both images 1 & 6 as "H", and didn't include an "F".  Your edit only changed image 6 to "F", and the rest were unchanged.  That certainly doesn't count as a DQ in my book.


slug54 - You are making me wonder if I should offer a "Best of Show" award for comedic effort...  

[SNAAAKE]

Well,
It ain't easy as I know nothin about filters or monitors but  guess is always cool .

5-a
1-b
4-c
2-d
3-e
7-f
6-g
8-h

[Dave_K.]

My guess:
1b
2a
3g
4h
5f
6c
7d
8e

[_Iz-]

1-B
2-C
3-D
4-E
5-F
6-A
7-H
8-G

Total Guesses...    

[Lazulitone]

Greets,

My guess seems to be pretty different compared to others.  I'm kind of a newbie though.  Had fun trying! Can't wait to see the actual results.

1. F
2. C
3. D
4. A
5. G
6. B
7. H
8. E

[toilet]

1. F
2. D
3. G
4. H
5. B
6. A
7. C
8. E

[u_rebelscum]

1. B
2. E
3. D
4. H
5. F
6. C
7. G
8. A

[AlanS17]

Looks like I had a couple of guesses in common with some other people. Maybe I'm not that retarded after all. Is this contest going to go until someone wins? Or will we have to wait til it's over before tallying is done?

[u_rebelscum]

My reasoning:
B, and F would have the sharpest, followed by C and possiblely A.
Like others said, C, D, & E should have close pattern, but C would be sharper and different refresh rate.
Again, G and H should be close.
S-video should be better then composite for same monitor + video card combo.  So G better than H but close pattern,
D better than E but close pattern, pattern also simular to C.

1, 5, & 6 are the sharpest images.
To me, 4 & 7 are very close in size and pattern, 7 much better than 4 (thus 4 composite).
To me, 3 & 6 are close if you acount for different refresh rate.  2 has nearly the same pattern, but a way different size.  I assumed oscar moved the camera for the NEC monitor.  2 has more bleed/blend than 3.  (thus 2 is composite and 6 is vga/BNC)
That leaves 5 and 1.  
5 is sharper than 1, and viewsonic has a good rep for sharp images.  
1 is sharp, but is softer than 5.  So 1 gets the XGA.

I'm probably wrong about the NEC monitor, thus messing up 3 other answers, but hey, might as well guess.

Good luck everyone!

[Brax]

A-2
B-5
C-6
D-3
E-4
F-1
G-7
H-8

I just made my best guesses. The sharpest resolutions I guessed were the monitors. Then I tried to guess the others by camera angles and apply the resolutions and quality I guessed that the devices would have. Not exactly rocket science. A throw of the dice more like it.  



And GAWWWWWD could I use a spinner! *crosses fingers*

[vishwats]

This is my answer
A-4
B-5
C-7
D-3
E-8
F-1
G-2
H-6

-Vishwa