Yet Another Jukebox Program

[Dermbrian]

I think I'm going to create a dummy 'first' .mp3 directory and modify the appropriate .jpg  (empty.jpg, probably) in the SK Jukebox directory to present useful info.  That way the first album cover could be a mini 'help' screen, showing the hot key to pull up the genre list, for example.  Or any common task that isn't super intuitive.

There's not a lot that's not intuitive, though.  But there may be, depending on the cabinet design, etc, for the real builders.

Maybe I'll also add a picture or graphic to that fake album cover with some personal meaning, that sort of thing.

Just some thoughts about how a user can easily go one step further without SK having to do it all......


Thanks,
Brian

[billf]

"more cowbelll"

That skit from SNL is one of the best!

[SalmonKing]

I really like the addition of the option choosing the genre/directory path.   ('First part of directory is genre' checkbox)

But for us mouse users, can it be made to work where a double mouse click selects the choice?  I notice I can click on a genre, but I have to hit <enter> to actually finish the process and get out of that screen. 

This is going to make is super simple to keep the oddball stuff out of the random play mode.

Thanks!
Brian

Good idea, this has been added to the next version! 

[SalmonKing]

Hello Sk

Thank for SK Jukebox

One suggestion, what about a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork ??

Really good Job

Bauhaus aka Christophe

Not sure what you're asking for here??

How does that differ from the area at the bottom of the screen that says what is playing, and displays the artwork for that album (and visulizations, if selected)?

[SalmonKing]

I have 2 videos in my music directory.  One is who's one first by abbot and costello, the other is "more cowbelll"

Any plans to add video support?

Thanks again SK.

Art

No plans at this stage, I'm afraid.  I'll add it to the looooong term list, though 

[SalmonKing]

Hi SK,

No bug detected so far, except when I switched on the genre thing, but since you

[JackTucky]

SK:

Gui JUMP kicks arse! 

Art

[SalmonKing]

SK:

Gui JUMP kicks arse! 

Art

Thanks for that!   

Now, to a mod that was requested : Look at using a Virtual Keyboard for the Find dialog

I am able in XP to load the Microsoft On-Screen Keyboard when the Find dialog comes up, then close it when the screen is closed.

In XP, the executable is 'osk.exe', and the window title is 'On-Screen Keyboard'.  I need both of these bits of information to load it up, and close it down respectivly.

The program stores it's last on-screen position (by the program, I mean the keyboard program), so I don't need to do anything about moving the window.  Just load it up, put it in the position you want it, and away you go.

What I need to know is : What operating systems have a Virtual On-Screen Keyboard built-in?  I will need to know the executable name to run it, and the title of the window when it is run.  I know that 2000 includes it, and I have that running at home, so can check there (unless someone can tell me before I get home....).  I am more interested in Windows 98, 98SE & ME.

SK.

[bauhaus]

Hello Sk

Thank for SK Jukebox

One suggestion, what about a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork ??

Really good Job

Bauhaus aka Christophe

Not sure what you're asking for here??

How does that differ from the area at the bottom of the screen that says what is playing, and displays the artwork for that album (and visulizations, if selected)?

Sorry i mean ..

a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork in full screen mode....
 the actual screensaver but more configurable.

Bauhaus

[JackTucky]

One more request  SK.

Once I hit J for jump GUI, I select my letter, I'd like to  use J again instead of enter to move to the selection.

Can you make that mappable?

I don't have any other use for the ENTER.

Thanks again.

Art

[SalmonKing]

One more request  SK.

Once I hit J for jump GUI, I select my letter, I'd like to  use J again instead of enter to move to the selection.

Can you make that mappable?

I don't have any other use for the ENTER.

Thanks again.

Art

Absolutly, I'll put in an option for that.   

BTW : I am working on upgrading 'something'.  When I bought the full version of the MP3 control, I lost the ability to play other sound formats.  However, it was a small prce to pay to get rid of WMP9!  Less than 1 month later, I received an e-mail telling me there was a new version out, which now plays WAV, WMA & OGG formats.  Problem?  It was going to cost me $90 to purchase the upgrade.   

Anyway, I contacted the company, and they made me an offer I couldn't refuse   

I was able to purchase the upgrade, and am currently making sure that it is all working.  Once I've done that, I'll release an update with the new control.  The control has the same name as the current one, so it should just be a matter of overwriting your existing one.

[billf]

BTW : I am working on upgrading 'something'.

[PileDriver]

Fantastic Program.
I've been using VMJ. Its so slow compaired to this.

Just one problem and one request>
Problem: It has to do with selecting file naming.
When I select the proper naming for me ( xx Track.mp3)
it cuts off the start of the name. (Insted of "01 Track", I get "01 ack")
Now If I go and change it

[SalmonKing]

Fantastic Program.
I've been using VMJ. Its so slow compaired to this.

Just one problem and one request>
Problem: It has to do with selecting file naming.
When I select the proper naming for me ( xx Track.mp3)
it cuts off the start of the name. (Insted of "01 Track", I get "01 ack")
Now If I go and change it  to xx - Track.mp3 it works fine untill I restart.
Then I have to do it all again.
My Files are xx Track.mp3.I'm using the static DB and Genre.

And that brings me to my request.
Could it ask to update the DB when pressing save instead of
having to go back to the general tab?

Thanks for giving us all a great Juke Program

Update: When I don't use the Genre its seems to work correctly.

Strange, the Genre option has no bearing at all over how it interprets the file name.  Are you sure you're not using 'xx - track.mp3', rather than 'xx track.mp3'?  Obviously, the difference here is 2 characters, which is what you are saying it has dropped off.

Remember to hit the Update Database button when changing any of these options (see next paragraph!)

It should ask you to update the Static Database if the paths have been modified, but I guess the same should apply to ANY of the settings in the 1st lot of options!  I'll make that change.  Might even move the Static Database option into that lot of options, too.

If you are still having problems, please copy & paste one of your file names into a reply here, and let me know how it is being displayed in the program.

Thanks,

SK.

[PileDriver]

Well It looks like it was my problem.
There were two different formats.
My Full CDs were in the xx track format but the singles had no track number (xx). Look like I have some work to do 
Thanks for the reply.

[Random24]

Hey SalmonKing,

I love this program.   It definitely does almost everything I need.

I just have a couple of requests.  I noticed the feature you recently added to resume with the volume where it was when you last closed the app.  This seems to be only kind of working for me.  What I mean is that it will come up at 100% but then drop to where I last left it as soon as i click on the down volume button.

Another request would be for the volume buttons to repaet like the left and right buttons for scrolling through the album list.  I am using a touch screen only and having to repeatedly touch the screen to change the volume is a bit difficult.

My last request would be to put some more of the controls on the screen.  I do not have a keyboard accessable to my friends when they use the jukebox and sometimes we would like to turn on the random mode or skip a particular song that we no longer want to listen to.  Any aditional controls, or even a popup control panel would be a great help.

As has been said before, if you want to develop for touch screen users and you don't have a touch screen yourself, just try using your app with the mouse and the LEFT click alone.  Also remember that double clicking is not natural on a touch screen.

I hope all this doesn't sound too harsh.  I really love this program and am happy to finally have an aplication that really seems to just work for my needs.  It would just be perfect for me with a few more tweaks.

Thanks again for your time and effort.

[SalmonKing]

Hey SalmonKing,

I love this program.   It definitely does almost everything I need.

I just have a couple of requests.  I noticed the feature you recently added to resume with the volume where it was when you last closed the app.  This seems to be only kind of working for me.  What I mean is that it will come up at 100% but then drop to where I last left it as soon as i click on the down volume button.

Another request would be for the volume buttons to repaet like the left and right buttons for scrolling through the album list.  I am using a touch screen only and having to repeatedly touch the screen to change the volume is a bit difficult.

My last request would be to put some more of the controls on the screen.  I do not have a keyboard accessable to my friends when they use the jukebox and sometimes we would like to turn on the random mode or skip a particular song that we no longer want to listen to.  Any aditional controls, or even a popup control panel would be a great help.

As has been said before, if you want to develop for touch screen users and you don't have a touch screen yourself, just try using your app with the mouse and the LEFT click alone.  Also remember that double clicking is not natural on a touch screen.

I hope all this doesn't sound too harsh.  I really love this program and am happy to finally have an aplication that really seems to just work for my needs.  It would just be perfect for me with a few more tweaks.

Thanks again for your time and effort.

I have already fixed the problem with the 'saved volume level', so keep your eyes open for an update! 

If you turn on the option for Automatic Key Repeating, that should allow you to hold down one of the buttons on the on-screen keypad & it will repeat like you were using the keyboard.

For the touch screen functionality, I need to know what you expect from the control panel / keypad.  What functions are you missing?  I have used the program with just the left mouse button, and it seems to work fine.  There are obviously some of the other features missing, so which ones are you missing the most?

SK.

[JackTucky]

SK:

Have you noticed a bug where the albums always scroll as 4?  I have it set to 2, but it still scrolls 4.  Consensus of my users was it was fine at 4, so  it's not such a big deal for me.

Art

[SalmonKing]

SK:

Have you noticed a bug where the albums always scroll as 4?  I have it set to 2, but it still scrolls 4.  Consensus of my users was it was fine at 4, so  it's not such a big deal for me.

Art

Art,

That sees to be a problem with the Automatic Key Repeating.  If you turn that off, it should be fine.  I am still working on that feature, so it's no surprise that it's not behaving 

SK.

[papaschtroumpf]

Not true! This is NOT just another Jukebox program is is feature packed and runs great on my PC. 
Nice one SK.. 

I was on the board when this was first posted but only now got around to try SK jukebox and I have to agree with Cockney_Geezer, you did a great job SK!  I've been playing with it only about an hour and I'm 99% of the way there already. My two issues right now are track title not fully displayed and wrong file displayed in the artwork (I sometimes have other JPEGs in the directory that are thumbnails, for a different application, and they sometimes get picked by SKJukebox). I haven't read all the doc and this thread so I need to do that and see if the answer is there.

[JackTucky]

Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else?  I'd like to have a nice excel spreadsheet of my directory that i could sort anyway I want.

Art

[GadgetGeek]

Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else?

[JackTucky]

Sweet!  Didn't know about the bare switch.

Art

[papaschtroumpf]

now gimme a way to re-arrange the physical directories after I re-arrange them in Excel :-)

[SalmonKing]

Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else?  I'd like to have a nice excel spreadsheet of my directory that i could sort anyway I want.

Art

There's also the E key, too, which exports a couple of tab-delimited .txt files in the application directory.  Might not be as much info as you want, but it works for me!   

[GadgetGeek]

now gimme a way to re-arrange the physical directories after I re-arrange them in Excel :-)

VBA - FileCopy could probably do a bunch of the work.  Actually a quick look into the help,

NAME oldname AS newname

looks like it will do the trick (if you are good with VBA)
According to the help for NAME Statement

Renames a disk file, directory, or folder.

Seeing this, I think an issue on my machine will be resolved shortly. :-)

[JackTucky]

There's also the E key, too, which exports a couple of tab-delimited .txt files in the application directory.  Might not be as much info as you want, but it works for me!   

I'll try that too.  The directory into excel worked quite nicely, I just have to remove all the 01- 02- from the song titles.

Art

[papaschtroumpf]

how is the order of the tracks within the album determined then?

[JackTucky]

I want to print a list sorted by song title.  Once we found the song on the list, we would just go to that album and type in it's number.

I figure having a printed list near the jukebox would be helpful if someone said, do you have "insert song title" on here?

Art

[mllkat]

I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.

I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.

Mllkat

[mado21]

hi I am getting the same  runtime error 429 mesg as milkat ,but the funny thing is i have installed the program on 2 computers both runing xp pro+sp1 but only get error on one comp?
any help please
 
mado21

[PileDriver]

Anyone using a touchscreen with this software.
I can't get it to exit the screen saver using the touch only.
Any help?

[Lilwolf]

I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty..  I LOVE the software... but it just doesn't really work without a keyboard.   Missing too many features...   

Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden

[Chris]

Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden

Don't these kind of controls make it more media player than jukebox?

[SalmonKing]

I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.

I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.

Mllkat

Have both of you just downloaded the program for the first time?  If so, check the very bottom of the page.  There is a link to download the VB6 runtimes required by the program.  Download & run this file & let me know if you are still getting the error.

SK.

[SalmonKing]

I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty..  I LOVE the software... but it just doesn't really work without a keyboard.   Missing too many features...   

Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden

As I have asked a couple of times previously, I need to know ALL functions that you want.  I added more, but it's still not enough! 

If you list the functions that you need, I'll look into it.  All I can see missing is a 'Next Song' button, and perhaps the ability to close the program.

[PileDriver]

I just bought a touchscreen so I'm still working with it.
Imagine using only the left mouse with you program.
No right clicking and no keyboard.
I have one problem. I can't exit the screen saver with the mouse/touchscreen. Did I miss something in the config?
Now on to some suggestions. How about some extra programable buttons on the screen. They could be programed/assigned any task such as next song or clear Que. Another one would be to have one button to pop-up a control screen which might have the next/clear/View Que and some other features.
Don't take any of this the wrong way you have a great program here. I works great on my non touch Juke

[SalmonKing]

I just bought a touchscreen so I'm still working with it.
Imagine using only the left mouse with you program.
No right clicking and no keyboard.
I have one problem. I can't exit the screen saver with the mouse/touchscreen. Did I miss something in the config?
Now on to some suggestions. How about some extra programable buttons on the screen. They could be programed/assigned any task such as next song or clear Que. Another one would be to have one button to pop-up a control screen which might have the next/clear/View Que and some other features.
Don't take any of this the wrong way you have a great program here. I works great on my non touch Juke

But, do you still want the EXISTING keypad?  I'd hate to do more work than is required with this 

As for programmable keys, I can see what will happen.  As a software developer, it's hard to come up with rules.  The second you put one in place, someone / something wants it broken.  So, I could put in 5 programmable keys, then someone will want 6.      I had an experience recently where a customer requested more room in a certain field, so I doubled it.  They had the update for a day until such time that they needed 1 more character that was allowed in the new version   

I'm not really sure what to do with this, but let me look at it over the weekend (but don't stop giving ideas on how it can be improved, please!!!)

As for existing the screensaver using the mouse, that was causing me problems when I first did it.  I believe the problem was that I was trying to make it exit with a mouse movement, but the program kept getting 'told' that the mouse had moved, even though it hadn't.  I should be able to make it close with a mouse click, though!

[PileDriver]

Hm-mm.. I might be able to map the existing keypad.
Can you make it display the changed key.
For example:
If I change the 1 key to F, can you make it display the F on screen insted if the 1?

[Lilwolf]

Sorry, I should have been a little more detail. 

I'm running on a 15" touchscreen.  And the sizes when using the number pad is way to small.  So not having those controls up removes many of the abilities.

I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty..