Yet Another Jukebox Program

[clonestar]

I've been playing a bit more with the balance problem.  When you start the program the balance is all one way, but corrects when skip to the next track (adjusting the balance does not work).  However if you skip to the next song and then adjust the balance it works in one direction but will not go back (numbers change but nothing happens). Unless you go all the way to 0 or 100 and then it jumps back to normal.

[SalmonKing]

SK stated previously that Video support was on the list, but it would take awhile.

I have the option checked to not show 00, but make it work anyway, and it doesn't work for me.

any ideas why?

Art

Sorry Art, no idea.  It's always worked for me, and everyone else, AFAIK.  I'm assuming you know how it works?  If you want to queue up album 137, you'd enter '13700' and hit Enter (unless you have the option on that setup that accepts songs without needing to hit Enter).

If you're doing all of that and are using the latest version, send me your SKJukebox.ini, in case it's something to do with the combination of options you have selected.

As for the rest of the people who have brought up the balance issue, I'm on it!  I didn't get time to look at the program over the Easter break, as I stayed at the beach longer than I had planned   

Video & skinning support are things that are on the 'Long Term To-Do List'.  This means that I am seriously unlikely to look at it in the next 6 months, but it's there on the list to investigate when I run out of other stuff to do.

[clonestar]

Hi
Just a quick idea that might be really easy to implement.

[SalmonKing]

Hi
Just a quick idea that might be really easy to implement.  How about a new screensaver mode that simply takes the area of the screen that alternates between vumeter, waveform, coverart etc and expanding this to full screen, this would look great on my cab.

Easy to miss, but this is what I wrote on 14/11/2004 in the readme.txt :

"AND, I can only have 1 oscilloscope attached to the player, so I can't use it in the screen saver."

Now, that was some time ago, and the control has since been upgraded.  I'll have another look at it to see if the ability to change where it is outputting that display 'mid-flight', but the ability was definately not present when I first used it 4 months ago.

[clonestar]

Thanks for the reply, I am rereading the readme.txt now before I post anything else.

[SalmonKing]

Just letting you all know that I fixed the problem with the balance.  It was a change in the control that I was unaware of.  Before, the balance ranged from 0 to 100, with 50 being normal.  However, the new control ranges from -50 to 50, with 0 being normal.

I will put an update online in the next couple of days, as I want to have a look at a few other things that are on the 'to do list'.  I've been so busy lately that just spending 15 mins checking out this issue was a stretch!!   

[Zathras]

Just an FYI -  Typically I just leave it on random and I've noticed that ocassionally it will play through a track and stop at the end and just sit there and not progress onto the next song without manually hitting skip. 

I'll just realize that nothing is playing and I'll go over to it - the screen saver will be on and the track progress bar will be full...  I haven't narrowed it down yet but I will try to make a note of what songs it does this on to see if there is some consistancy as to the tracks that it is happening on.

[scales82]

great program dude

just wondering if there is anyway i can control the whole song selection thing WITHOUT the number system... just using my mame joystick perhaps?

id love it if i could!

[papaschtroumpf]

I've got it working on my MAME cab and it works great without the number system (well, I haven't upgraded to the latest version but I can't imagine that that changed).
You will need a keyboard and mouse to set it up originally probably, but if you type O in the main screen, you will see lots of options, including remapping controls, etc...

I use the cursor keys (panel joystick) to scroll through the albums and the "fire1" key to select. When I select an album it "zooms" into that album, then I can select the top line for "entire album" (this is something you need to anable in the options) or I can choose a song.
I don't have enough buttons on my cab (single player) to map all the controls but I have mapped the one I really care about, like volume, etc...
You can even enable a credit mode if your cab has a token acceptor...

[SalmonKing]

great program dude

just wondering if there is anyway i can control the whole song selection thing WITHOUT the number system... just using my mame joystick perhaps?

id love it if i could!

It depends on how your joystick works!  If it is sending keyboard commands to the PC, sure.  If it's a 'traditional' joystick, no.

For the keystrokes, you will notice that there is an option to select album 1, 2, 3 or 4 on the screen (F1 to F4, IIRC).  That means you can scroll left / right through the albums, bring 1 of the 4 albums up, then arrow up / down to the song you want & Enter it.  Using the Scrollable Jump would work nicely with that setup too, if you have alot of albums.

As for responding to 'joypad style' commands, I've never done any work with that.  Can't imagine it would be TOO hard, so let me know if you need this option added.

[scales82]

yeah its just an ipac controller... so yeah, it works to scroll etc... but when i select an album, i cannot select a particular song in the list

[scales82]

ah just figured it out... had to disable the autmatically select thing.

but now every time i select an album (one of my album select keys is the alt key) it brings up the "minimize, maximise close" window in the top left... any way of disabling that besides changing my keymap??

[SalmonKing]

ah just figured it out... had to disable the autmatically select thing.

but now every time i select an album (one of my album select keys is the alt key) it brings up the "minimize, maximise close" window in the top left... any way of disabling that besides changing my keymap??

hmmm.....interesting.  Don't think I've used the Alt key (as it can really be a pain sometimes!!!).  Is there any way you can use a different key, or are you strapped for buttons?

Also, are you running the program in full screen or in a window?  Full screen should remove the 'control box' in the top corner of the screen, but it's still there in Windowed mode.  I might be able to get around that by turning off the control box, but it took alot of rooting around with those options to get full screen to work!  Maybe I can removed all options from the menu (as an option) then again, these sort of 'manipulations to inbuilt functions' can be hard.

Edit : Come to think of it, that menu shouldn't come up with just an Alt press, rather it requires Alt + Space for it to come up.

[papaschtroumpf]

space would be button next to ALT on a regular MAME cabinet

[papaschtroumpf]

What's the proper procedure to upgrade?
I downloaded te full install file for 2.10, then I extracted the update one because it seem that's what the instructions say, and once again I have lost all my config!

to scale82: I assigned the ALT key (fire2 for MAME) to the "back" function and I don't seethe dialog you're talking about. I am running in full screen however.

to SK: since I have a large number of albums it would be nice to have a "fast forward" scroll. I use the 4 album view and ideally I would like to be able to use the up and down key to jump back and forth (but still maintain the up and down key to scroll the list in full view).
I'm not sure how you would choose how to jump. Jump 20 albums ahead? Go to the next letter in the alphabet?

[SalmonKing]

What's the proper procedure to upgrade?
I downloaded te full install file for 2.10, then I extracted the update one because it seem that's what the instructions say, and once again I have lost all my config!

If you already have it installed, simply extract the Upgrade zip over the top of your setup.  As for losing the config.....all I can assume is that the installer thinks it needs to overwrite the existing one (which I THOUGHT I told it not to).  That should be pretty simple to say 'if the .ini file already exists, don't install it'.  However, as I have pointed out, you don't need to install on a new update, simply unzip.

to SK: since I have a large number of albums it would be nice to have a "fast forward" scroll. I use the 4 album view and ideally I would like to be able to use the up and down key to jump back and forth (but still maintain the up and down key to scroll the list in full view).
I'm not sure how you would choose how to jump. Jump 20 albums ahead? Go to the next letter in the alphabet?

Not easy, but I'll add to the list to look at some time.

[scales82]

im pretty sure i was in full screen mode.... then again i could be wrong, just could be a really big window  ill try full screen mode tonight...

i wanted to have button 1 and 2 select the two bottom albums and button 4 and 5 do the top two windows (like it was in a square) then i can use the last two buttons for other things..

[SalmonKing]

im pretty sure i was in full screen mode.... then again i could be wrong, just could be a really big window ill try full screen mode tonight...

i wanted to have button 1 and 2 select the two bottom albums and button 4 and 5 do the top two windows (like it was in a square) then i can use the last two buttons for other things..

OK......full screen doesn't have a control box (which is what Alt + Space is activating), so give that a whirl.  Do you think you were hitting Space at the same time as Alt?  It's the only way I can get the menu up here.

[scales82]

it was definaltley just alt on its own... but now i unticked "windowed mode" it works fine...  so now im just trying to get all my filenames in a good order so it works good.

[JackTucky]

I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.

I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.

Mllkat

Any resolution on this?  I'm trying to get SKJK to run on a Win98 PC.

I've installed the runtimes, both of the updates on SK's page, and manually had to do a REGSVR32 MSCOMCTL.OCX.

Thanks.

[JackTucky]

After a reboot, I'm getting Run Time Error '5'.  Invalid procedure call or argument

Art

[JackTucky]

After multiple reboots and running windows update until nothing left to install, all OK. 

 

Art

[allroy1975]

Holy Crap!  I have just about given up on VMJ...this thing is SUPER SWEET.  I had it working at work today and was FREAKING OUT!  it's SO much faster and more configurable than VMJ....

So I got home and started messing with it more.  I saw someone post earlier how you can set up the Genres and got that set up.  FREAKIN SWEET!  Then I realized I hadn't set an option that I HAD set on my Work PC.  The "Display Track Names Not  Codes In 'Track List'

BOOM, program crashed.  Can't get it back up without editing the ini file.  Tried it on my standalone Jukebox PC and it did the same thing.  I tried unchecking the "first part of directory is Genre" and then checking the "Display Names" and it worked.  For Some reason you can't have both options checked or the program will Crash. 

Other than that it's everything I could ask for.  Skinnability would be nice...but really if this bug were cleared up I'd be in love.

Allroy

[SalmonKing]

Holy Crap!  I have just about given up on VMJ...this thing is SUPER SWEET.  I had it working at work today and was FREAKING OUT!  it's SO much faster and more configurable than VMJ....

So I got home and started messing with it more.  I saw someone post earlier how you can set up the Genres and got that set up.  FREAKIN SWEET!  Then I realized I hadn't set an option that I HAD set on my Work PC.  The "Display Track Names Not  Codes In 'Track List'

BOOM, program crashed.  Can't get it back up without editing the ini file.  Tried it on my standalone Jukebox PC and it did the same thing.  I tried unchecking the "first part of directory is Genre" and then checking the "Display Names" and it worked.  For Some reason you can't have both options checked or the program will Crash. 

Other than that it's everything I could ask for.  Skinnability would be nice...but really if this bug were cleared up I'd be in love.

Allroy

I tried having both of those options on and it works fine.  There must be some other option 'getting in the way'.  Does it happen as soon as you open the program, or as soon as you select a genre?

Can you please e-mail me a .ini file in a state where you can't get the program loaded (address is in the readme.txt).  That should help me, as well as giving me the actual error message that I can go off of.

SK.

[SalmonKing]

Actually, I think I've found the problem.  It's loading up the songs that were in the list when you shut down the program, but that piece of code needed a small change done to it to make it fit in with the genres that I added a while back (you should be able to prove that out by deleting AutoSave.m3u and seeing if you can then get into the program).

Now, on the point of an update, you may have noticed there has been no update from me in quite some time.  This is due in no small part to a personal tragedy that I won't go into here, not only that but work has got me frazzled, and home life has been hectic.  Basically I've been stressed to the max!!   

Time for a comeback!  I have a nice list of features that I have been adding to over the last couple of months as they have been requested, so I will plug away at them over the weekend.  I will post an update Monday morning, even if I achieve everything on the list or not.

SK.

[allroy1975]

Have I told you lately that I love you?

It's not when I load the program per-say.  It's when I make the change and then save it.  As soon as it saves it crashes.  Then subsequently every time I open the program.

I'll still e-mail you the ini file.

Thanks a million!

Allroy

[allroy1975]

You are 100% right.  If I delete that m3u file it works and as long as there is no next song (but there usually is because I use random a lot) it will load up again next time.

so, just to verify....you're on the right track.  I can't wait until Monday. 

Allroy

[SalmonKing]

I will post an update Monday morning, even if I achieve everything on the list or not.

Damn, I knew I shouldn't have said that!  lol

I'm half way through finishing off the color customization (at last!), and want to finish that off before I release the update.  If I don't get time tonight, it will be a few days before I will have time to spend on it!   

Oh well, I'll see how I go with it.   

SK.

[allroy1975]

hey, at least you replied...I've been up all night waiting to hear something. 

Not really 

Allroy

[clonestar]

As this is the best jukebox program out there for my needs AND free as well I'm happy to take the update whenever it comes (looking forward to it though)

Thanks again for all your hard work

[lionbar]

Hello SalmonKing
thank you for your superb software.
I use it recently.
How to to use your software with single title?. I have hundreds single titles with their covers.
The covers have the same name as the file .mp3
(Ex. Green Day - American idiot.mp3 and Green Day - American idiot.jpg)

How to listen only one single title and see its cover without making a folder with 1 mp3 and its cover?

 thank you for your answer.

This text was translated from French into English by Babel fish because I don't speak English very well...

thank you for your answer

[allroy1975]

I don't want to sound like a pushy son of a ---smurfette--- but how's it going on that update? 

Allroy

[SalmonKing]

How to listen only one single title and see its cover without making a folder with 1 mp3 and its cover?

Unfortunatly, the only way currently IS to have them in seperate folders.

It would be quite a bit of work for me to achieve what you are asking, but I could put it on the list of things to look at over the coming months.

SK.

[SalmonKing]

I don't want to sound like a pushy son of a ---auto-censored--- but how's it going on that update? 

Allroy

haha.....still working on it, I'm afraid.  I don't get much of a chance to work on it these days, and I missed my 'window of opportunity'.  As such, a few things were half done, and I didn't really want to release it in that state.

Weekend's coming up, though......   

[JackTucky]

This isn't a "jab" at SK or Chris, but how come you guys don't open source the Juke software?  Surely there are lots of people that would like to help out with development.

In the meantime, I'm a happy user of SK jukebox 

Art

[allroy1975]

Again, I don't want to sound pushy or selfish but  how about that problem I found with the First Directory is Genre & Show Track Name instead of numbers both checked?  That's my biggest concern.  Other than that the program is PERFECT for me. 

I'm very excited to have found this program.  I feel stupid now for having paid for the software I'm not going to use.

hehehe..this one is just better!!

Thanks
Allroy

[Chris]

This isn't a "jab" at SK or Chris, but how come you guys don't open source the Juke software?

[lionbar]

Unfortunatly, the only way currently IS to have them in seperate folders.It would be quite a bit of work for me to achieve what you are asking, but I could put it on the list of things to look at over the coming months.SK.

ok thx for your answer....

i will wait....   

[SalmonKing]

Again, I don't want to sound pushy or selfish but  how about that problem I found with the First Directory is Genre & Show Track Name instead of numbers both checked?  That's my biggest concern.  Other than that the program is PERFECT for me. 

Yep, I fixed that, but I've said that I'm half way through a couple of other changes that I want to finish before releasing.  If you want to get around it in the meantime, untick the 'Restore Queue When Loading Program' or whatever I called it.

[SalmonKing]

Part of the reason is because I already spend a great deal of time doing end-user support; the support requirements would get much higher doing developer support.  Another part is that I'd have to spend a lot of time and work to make all the code pretty and organized enough for public consumption.  Part of it is that I just don't want to lose control of where it's going and what its focus is, or see someone add a bunch of true commercial features like cash flow audits and start putting it in real jukeboxes and selling it.

I think I've been pretty good about getting most of the features people want into it.  Perhaps when I decide I'm done with it, I'll go through the effort to make it fit for public consumption.  But for now, I'd prefer to keep this project in my hands.  I apologize if that sounds selfish.

--Chris

Pretty much ditto here.  I have put alot of time & effort into the program, and it's my baby.  I keep track of the suggestions made for the program, and I will look at them in due course.  If something is viable to achieve, I WILL investigate it at some point.

It's not about getting the job done, it's about the challenge of getting it done.  That's what makes this sort of project good fun.  I'm sure alot of the other juke developers program in their day to day goings on in a business environment.  I am one of those, and coding in something fun like SKJB is like a coding holiday, where I don't HAVE to worry about 'is this feature going to sell?' or 'could this harm someone's data if we change this?'.

Like Chris, I'm not being selfish about it, I just don't want to at this point in time (and don't foresee a time where I will, either).