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Author Topic: Controlls messed up.  (Read 2303 times)

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Controlls messed up.
« on: November 02, 2004, 10:17:02 pm »
Sorry, I posted about this before and I thought it was fixed, but it's not. I have more information about it though.

The problem, still, is when I play a game for awhile, a direction on the joystick will get stuck. For instance, when I play mortal kombat 3, the first time I hit back, it keeps moveing back even after I release it or when I play smash tv, it will walk to the upper left and won't stop. This problem is really annoying.

I have my jumpters on alt/ps2 for Ipac. I did have it on alt/usb, but I added a ps2 adapter to the coord.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2004, 02:09:24 am »
In Windows go to "control panel" and then "keyboard" and set repeat delay and repeat rate to lowest possible setting ( that's for WinXP ).

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2004, 03:21:00 am »
open notepad press CTRL ALT P

if the menu comes up, wires should be ok, if not, you have a wire screwed up somewhere..


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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2004, 04:30:58 am »
Thanks for the info.

I had the repeat rate on all the way fast, I set it to low. I went into notepad and the menu came up. I haven't tested it thourghly yet, but I did try out mk3 and that's where my main problem is.

After escaping mk3 and returning to mamewah, the controls in mamewah are all messed up. Usually it will constantly try to bring up the change emulater menu or it will change between games list whenever you move the joystick.

I don't know if this is an mk3 only problem or the controls.

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2004, 04:39:30 am »
Thanks for the info.

I had the repeat rate on all the way fast, I set it to low. I went into notepad and the menu came up. I haven't tested it thourghly yet, but I did try out mk3 and that's where my main problem is.

After escaping mk3 and returning to mamewah, the controls in mamewah are all messed up. Usually it will constantly try to bring up the change emulater menu or it will change between games list whenever you move the joystick.

I don't know if this is an mk3 only problem or the controls.

this will sound uber retarded.. but did you mix up your NO and NC connections.. itll do exactly what your saying if you did..


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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2004, 12:12:46 pm »


this will sound uber retarded.. but did you mix up your NO and NC connections.. itll do exactly what your saying if you did..
I thought that was the problem at first, but any other game I play doesn't mess up as easily. Mk3 messes up the controls instantly and doesn't fix itself, but other games take a long time to mess up and it's usually not so bad, it ends up going away.

I still haven't tested it with the other games ever since changing that "repeat rate". If the other games work, then it's a mk3 problem. I'll go test it on smash tv, that's the game that usually starts to mess up on the 2nd level.

Ok I tested it with smash tv. In about 10 seconds of playing, it kept running up and shooting  up. It went away after a minute or so. I was able to play awhile after without it happening again. It seems to be completely random.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2004, 12:21:17 pm by sanousuke »

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2004, 12:29:34 pm »
You gotta take baby steps then.....

Disconnect ALL switches (joystick switches too), then just hook up a few of them, test it out, if it's all OK, then reconnect a few more, test out... and so forth until you encounter the problem again. That will narrow it down (if it is indeed mixed up NC/NO/GRND)

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2004, 01:42:43 pm »
I do have a crappy wireing job(wires are twisted on), so it may be the problem. I looked real closely and I didn't see anything touching the "no". I only have 3 wires going to the ground, they are all daisy chained. Maybe one of the daisy chained ground wires are touching an "nc", but i'd think it wouldn't work then.

I hope this is the problem because I need to rewire them anyways.

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2004, 03:59:08 pm »
All your wiring should be hooked to the NO contacts, not the NC contacts.

The NC (normally closed, think "connected" here) contacts send a signal ALL the time.
The NO (normally open, like disconnecting the wire) contacts only send a signal when the button is pressed.

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2004, 04:51:17 pm »
I have a similar problem with messed up controls. I am still using a standard keyboard as I haven't build my control panel as yet.

Even when playing something as simple as Space Invaders, the keys only work for a short while. In Space invaders for example, I can move left or right using the curser keys, if I then press contol key to fire the curser keys will start to behave eratically, I will probably move to the far right, and cant get back, a few more shots and left curser will work for a while.

When I come out of MAME, the keyboard does not work properly, and I end up rebooting to cure.

Please advise as it is driving me nuts.

(I don't have this issue with any other PC applications)

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2004, 04:52:48 am »
I have an idea that might be the problem. I'm using an X-Arcade on my pc (currently building my Mame cab) and I haave terrible problems using the keyboard in message forums like this whilst it's pluggeed into the X-Arcade.

The keyboard goes all screwy with shift lock and caps lock sticking.... keys giving differrent letters and symbols etc. This problem is known to X-Gaming on a few PCs. They say it's the PS2 port not giving out enough power to support the X-Arcade properly. Their solution is to use a USB adaptor.... but at another

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Re:Controlls messed up.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2004, 02:50:47 am »
Thanks. That highlighted my problem. I am using a KVM switch while building the PC. It is this that is causing the issue. The switch is two way, and also looks like it takes power from the keyboard connector.

I am not sure why the problem only shows in MAME and not any other program, but having removed the KVM switch,  MAME/MAMEWah works properly.

Not sure if this relates to the original post, but I am grateful that my issue is  solved - Thanks again