Author Topic: Scratch-Built 'Track & Field' CT.. Put to Bed! :) (Read 22725 times)

spriggy · « **on:** August 30, 2004, 07:35:03 pm »

Hopefully very soon, I'll be able to commence a replica of the beautifully simplistic 'Track & Field' Cocktail.

Jakobud is again! so graciously compiling cabinet plans for this cocktail.

I'll start ordering the parts in the next few weeks.

I am however not going to jamma this one. ?It will asthetically look like a T&F, with the lovely 80's woodgrain and silkcreened CPO's. ?However, internals will be set up for Mame & MameWah, but only running the Track & Field related, 3 button layout working roms (as used by T&F).

They are:
Track & Field
Hyper Sports
'88 Games
Gold Medalist
RecordBreaker &
Field Day.

Stay Tuned!

goofy · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2004, 06:47:11 pm »

That's excellent. Those are way up there on my favorite games list, although I've never seen nor played the cocktail version of the game. It looks cool though. Keep us posted on this project!!!

goofy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2004, 07:51:55 pm »

By the way, where do you get the cocktail versions of those games,or how do you play the regular versions in cocktail mode?

spriggy · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2004, 08:48:56 pm »

Quote from: goofy on August 31, 2004, 07:51:55 pm

By the way, where do you get the cocktail versions of those games,or how do you play the regular versions in cocktail mode?

The PCB(or ROM for Mame) has a dip switch which specifically relates to 'Table' or 'Upright'.

With this dip switch set to 'Table', the screen flips for players 3 & 4, hence the opposite control panel.

marcus. · « **Reply #4 on:** August 31, 2004, 09:13:32 pm »

great looking cab!
Make that CP nice and strong!
Ive never noticed the detachable elevation base before .. very cool idea as Track &field IMO would be easier to play standing (with arms furiously banging buttons)
We used to put the plastic tube containers ( the ones that held $5 of 20c or quaters ) over 2 fingers and "stroke?" the run buttons side to side one handed if you know what i mean... maybe not ... I'll stop talking now.

goofy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2004, 01:01:56 am »

Yeah, anyone who's a fan of that game from back in the day knows exactly what you're talking about. Many people just used a pencil. I ran the old fashioned way (with my fingers) hitting two fingers on each key (pointer and middle, so 4 fingers going) and I could usually beat or atleast match the pencil runners.

What a great game!!

Troz · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2004, 01:42:11 am »

How is the glass placed on these types of cocktails? I ask because I too am in the process of designing one similar to this, although with 3 control panels. I'm planning on having the monitor on a hinge, much like the Midway style cocktail cabinets and I think that's where I'm running into my problem. Here's a cardboard mockup to give an idea of how it will look: http://www.twistedrails.com/cardboard_mockup.jpg

marcus. · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2004, 10:20:45 am »

behold the son of TRASHCADE!!

All Hail!

zaphod · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2004, 11:08:58 am »

That is a very nicely done mockup. Can't wait to see the completed project.

goofy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2004, 01:23:46 am »

Have the dimensions been completed yet? I checked Jakobud's site and didn't see them posted.

Cheers.

Any photo updates on the project?

spriggy · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2004, 09:48:09 pm »

I'm still in the planning and parts stage Goofy. I like to have all my parts, required for the build, prior to commencement. Then it's head down and ass up!

The plans are still at compilation stage via Jakobud, but close to completion.

goofy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2004, 11:55:27 pm »

Yeah, I hear you there. I've been planning for quite a while now and don't really want to start anything until I know what I want.

Best of luck; it should be great.

spriggy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2005, 12:40:58 am »

This project is still high on my list. However 6 months(and ongoing) of family based woes have stalled it.

As soon as my mates found out the tools(and brain) were recently operational again, one of them dropped an old Aussie Lowboy, in my small workshop, to renovate and mame. I'm also 15% through building a 'Jungle Hunt' themed mame Bartop for the kids(alright....and me!).

Next project will definatley be the T&F replica.

Wade, I'll contact you again in the near future if I require any info on this cab.

Cheers and game on again.
spriggy

Katana Man · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2005, 06:10:45 pm »

I absolutely love Track and Field and HyperSports.

spriggy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2005, 06:33:29 pm »

Hearing things like this really show what this hobby is all about!

remaniscent
spriggy

paigeoliver · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2005, 06:58:16 am »

Are you going to make an exact replica, or will you be doing any changes? If you are making any changes then you might want to examine the Atari Football and Dunk Shot cocktails (Atari Dunk Shot, not SEGA), as they look very similar but have cleaner lines and hold bigger monitors.

spriggy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2005, 10:42:37 am »

G'day Paige.

Making an exact replica in my situation and with the lack of resources available down here in the bottom corner of the globe would be overstating.

I am however going to attempt to make an externally asthetic replica of the T&F as accurate as my skills, and the resources available, allow.

Wade · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2005, 11:57:01 am »

I still have this game, so if you need more details on the assembly or the parts, measurements etc, just let me know!

BTW, Jakobud's measurements are good, but the base was an estimate. Don't know if you plan to build that part or not. I have that piece as well and can get the exact height of it. It has rounded corners and it is slightly shorter than in his plans.

It would be impossible to build an exact replica of this game, unless the person has special tools and can bend his own control panels. However, even using just wood, a replica could be made which looks nearly identical. It could be indistinguishable in a photo or to the casual observer.

Spriggy, email me about some tips for the CP artwork as well!

TTYL,
Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2005, 09:55:22 pm »

Luckily I have access to a sheet metal fabrication and press shop up the road, so pressing up the panels won't be a problem.

Wade · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2005, 01:58:53 pm »

Spriggy,

If you have a way to bend heavy sheetmetal then you can make it look exactly the same from the outside. The hinges are unusual but you could use piano style long hinges in place of them if you got creative on the underside of the CP's. No one would look down under there anyway.

Wade

rchadd · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:40:51 pm »

hey i've just won myself a Hyper Olympics (the name of T & F in europe) pcb on ebay and i am currently thinking about build a replica cocktail cab as well.

have you finalized the design and plans yet?

i would really like to see them.

otherwise my cab will have to be just a best guess...

spriggy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2005, 11:12:36 pm »

Quote from: rchadd on May 27, 2005, 06:40:51 pm

hey i've just won myself a Hyper Olympics (the name of T & F in europe) pcb on ebay and i am currently thinking about build a replica cocktail cab as well.

have you finalized the design and plans yet?

i would really like to see them.

otherwise my cab will have to be just a best guess...

I'll be using Wade's dimensions which Jakobud has compiled in CAD. They are up at his site ...http://www.jakobud.com/cabinetPlans.php ... if you aren't aware already that is!

Wade also supplied me with some excellent pics of his cabinet during and after his restoration, which I'll be using as reference. The pdf of the T&F cocktail contains some excellent cross-section and reference pics as well.

Once I've finished my run of 3 bartops that are already pre-sold, I'm starting on the planning stage of the T&F. The only info I have on my project at this stage, is what I've just mentioned.

Feel free to ask for any help.

cheers

ras2a · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2005, 05:15:20 am »

Need to chime in and say I salute thee, TnF is deffo one of my fav games of all time. Super project and very much looking forward to see it.

HyperHautian · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2005, 08:57:33 am »

DROOOOLLL!!! Hyper Sports was my ALL time FAVE! It is the reason I will be building my own mame system. This is the first cocktail cab that I like. I had not thought about a 'stand up' cocktail.

I was a 2 finger per button 'runner' as well, I could keep up with the pencil/plastic comb guys as well..

p.s. wow.. plastic comb, do they make those anymore.. lol

spriggy · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2005, 09:26:57 am »

Quote from: HyperHautian on May 29, 2005, 08:57:33 am

DROOOOLLL!!! Hyper Sports was my ALL time FAVE!

rchadd · « **Reply #25 on:** June 02, 2005, 06:32:06 am »

i assume you are going to use leaf switches?

i figure microswitiches wouldn't feel right for track and field

ps. do you know a good supplier of new leaf switches (full assembly)?

spriggy · « **Reply #26 on:** June 02, 2005, 08:52:08 am »

Quote from: rchadd on June 02, 2005, 06:32:06 am

i assume you are going to use leaf switches?

i figure microswitiches wouldn't feel right for track and field

ps. do you know a good supplier of new leaf switches (full assembly)?

Down in Perth Western Australia, nearly everything was micro's..except for the old old machines and the occassional original classic. Hence, I really only knew micros. Haven't decided yet. The happs micros aren't overly fantastic for the game. Haven't tried wico micro's but will be buying some soon to test. Leafs will probably be the way I go.

You can get full assemblies @ Bob Roberts.....http://www.therealbobroberts.com/

I'm still juggling 3 more bartops as well as renovating and maming my mates aussie LAI lowboy (he wants it covered in YELLOW SHAGPILE FUR!!?)... so she's on hold probably for the next 2 months.

Bones · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2005, 08:57:16 am »

Cigarette lighters moved back and forth quickly got some good times. Didn't do much for the cabs though.

spriggy · « **Reply #28 on:** November 24, 2005, 09:40:30 pm »

Alrighty then!.....

subcriminal · « **Reply #29 on:** November 26, 2005, 08:22:06 am »

You could add Numan Athletics to the list. Plays like track and field but with superheros and repetitive early 90's dance tunes. Good fun though!
Your Jungle MAME inspired my mate to build a bartop! He wanted a cab but lives at home with his parents so hasn't got the space. I think he's going top do a Mortal Kombat theme with single player controls and a plug in controller for player 2.
I can't wait to see this cocktail! It's gonna be cool

spriggy · « **Reply #30 on:** November 26, 2005, 09:07:37 pm »

subcrim....

spriggy · « **Reply #31 on:** January 22, 2007, 07:30:10 am »

WELL.... AGAIN

As mentioned in an old thread Reply #28 on: November 25, 2005, 10:40:30 AM.... I was still in the same situation until recently. Now with the illness crap aside and the last of the house stuff full steam ahead.. this project is still on the no 1. list of return builds (side by side with my 'Cosmic Guerilla' resto)

So.. as I was strolling through this thread http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62330.msg618500#msg618500 ('Jakobuds incorrect widebody dims').. I noticed Wade mentioned the T& F cocktail.. which brought back ideas about this project.

So.. having fairly recently learnt to use 'Sketchup 5 Pro' when designing my metal patio.. and a few hours spare @ work....I started playing with the T&F dims in SU5, so that I will have a dimensioned 3d model, ready to go for when I eventually start this beast. I've PM'd Wade to see if he'll work with me again, and check the dims of my model. (#update - Wade's on board#)

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it. I will not be doing a 2d cad plan. I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them. They will be in jpg format.

Wish me luck..... for god sake please!!!!!

DrewKaree · « **Reply #32 on:** January 24, 2007, 05:24:54 am »

Quote from: spriggy on January 22, 2007, 07:30:10 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it. I will not be doing a 2d cad plan. I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them. They will be in jpg format.

Consider me "anyone". I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.

spriggy · « **Reply #33 on:** January 24, 2007, 08:13:11 am »

Quote from: DrewKaree on January 24, 2007, 05:24:54 am

Quote from: spriggy on January 22, 2007, 07:30:10 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it. I will not be doing a 2d cad plan. I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them. They will be in jpg format.

Consider me "anyone". I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.

Done and Done 'anyone'

spriggy · « **Reply #34 on:** January 25, 2007, 08:05:15 am »

Quote from: DrewKaree on January 24, 2007, 05:24:54 am

Quote from: spriggy on January 22, 2007, 07:30:10 am

When it's done, I'll offer it up to anyone who wants it. I will not be doing a 2d cad plan. I'll just dimension the 3d model in SU5, as well as pulling the individual panels apart and dimensioning them. They will be in jpg format.

Consider me "anyone". I've had several ideas for this particular type of cab and would appreciate the info.

Drew, Just for your info... I've emailed a list of dimensions I need to Wade'O.. so should get them relatively soon. I've done everything I can on the model based on Jakobuds plans (from Wade's dimensions).
I have ---steaming pile of meadow muffin----loads of pics from Wade.. hence have used them as reference.
I've used a bit of artistic license on some of the dimensions for internal mounting panels.. like the small side panels the CP and Glass sit-on. I obviously used the pics as reference to get them as visually close as possible. They look the same or very similar, but may be out by small fractions. Not too worried as you won't see them AT ALL when she's together... but the "looking original' premise still stands rather upright!

I think Wade has better things to worry about than measuring a 1" by 2" piece of dust collecting ply that sits on the inside bottom left of the cab!! Like his up and coming clone (new baby)!

Anyway, will dimension the ---smurfette--- as soon as the model is updated and throw u the lot. I won't be building my T&F 'till I get this other son of a ---smurfette--- outta the way (see attached)

$:-\$

DrewKaree · « **Reply #35 on:** January 25, 2007, 08:50:19 am »

Schweet! You'll be done with yours before I even think about mine probably

I dunno if the CAD program you (or whoever) is using can spit out a cut list for parts, but if not, I've got a program that should do that, and if need be, I'll run it through that so that folks can optimize their materials and know just what the heck they'll have to buy when they go to the hardware store.

I dunno if anyone's paying attention, but if the Joust cocktail gets completed, I can offer the same thing (although any rounded/angled pieces will simply be squared off and final shapes will have to be handled by the cab creator).

DrewKaree · « **Reply #36 on:** January 25, 2007, 09:04:35 am »

....and I dunno if that's just a carport or a pergola for the house, but I've got a recent Fine Homebuilding issue that you might be interested in. PM me if you want some more details about the magazine. This is the issue I've got: http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/fh_toc_178.asp

I know the pic doesn't really do it justice, but the table of contents is there, so.....

spriggy · « **Reply #37 on:** January 25, 2007, 09:26:13 am »

Quote from: DrewKaree on January 25, 2007, 09:04:35 am

....and I dunno if that's just a carport or a pergola for the house, but I've got a recent Fine Homebuilding issue that you might be interested in. PM me if you want some more details about the magazine. This is the issue I've got: http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/fh_toc_178.asp

I know the pic doesn't really do it justice, but the table of contents is there, so.....

Cheers Drew. Yeh it's a pergola that I'm building off the side of the house (13.5 metres long (44+ feet) = plenty of room for a spa, LCD tv, table, lounge and T&F cocktail!!!

). Thanks for the reference to the mag. This one's being built outta glavinised and colorbonded steel.. so I'm not sure the article will help. Looks like it's reference to wood based pergolas. Still..... would be interesting ta read!

Thanx

Wade · « **Reply #38 on:** January 25, 2007, 03:20:35 pm »

I'm planning to take a little time to deal with the T&F and also check the Moon Patrol plans some time over this weekend. So stay tuned.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #39 on:** January 25, 2007, 08:23:19 pm »

Cool Wade. I've added a few brackets and CP wiring access holes. I'm done until new dims arrive.

Because I don't have access to any CP hinges that resemble the original T&F ones, I've created a simple right angle bracket to which a normal straight hinge can be attached too. It will operate the same way as the original.


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