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Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« on: October 17, 2020, 04:41:24 am »
As mentioned Atari has a 2 joystick/trackball controller out:
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http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,163722.0.html

This add-on, can also be used standalone.

I will get it tomorrow, and write a review of it.

It's also from microcenter:
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https://www.microcenter.com/product/624264/atari-usb-spinner





Bring precision rotary control to your arcade with the addition of this USB spinner. This spinner is designed to be mounted in any button hole found on a Micro Center arcade cabinet. The USB connection makes it quick and easy to hook the controller up to a Raspberry Pi or any other retro gaming computer. The one dimensional control is ideal for classic arcade games like Avalanche and Tempest.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 10:03:50 pm »
got the spinner today:



package:

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contains the spinner top, spinner bottom part with connector, 1 connector pcb-> usb

 

Installation:

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choose a button to replace or drill hole in panel

 

1) unlock and open up panel

2) locate button, and disconnect wiring to button

3) unscrew washer around button, and unscrew the button

4) attach connecter with USB to bottom of spinner

5) thread spinner through the button hole

6) tighten washer to secure spinner

7) put spinner top on shaft

 

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thoughts and quick tests

 

its a very sturdy and heavy duty spinner, good weight

and spins very freely.

 

looks good with the atari symbol on it. and the ridges

on the side make for a good grip

 

its very silent.

 

test

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ran a quick test on MAME for windows.

the spinner is recognized as a mouse input.

 

fired up tempest, adjust the settings and sensitivity

to the lowest, and was able to play just fine.

 

further tweaks for other games will be needed.

will be testing it out on the xbox one with tempest also.

 

recommendation:

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price / value is definitely worth it, and the fact you don't

have to drill into a panel makes it superior just for that.

 

no tools are needed to install, and no maintenace afterwards.

 

good value, and sturdy build make it worth $49.99

recommended  5/5 stars

 

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 10:33:44 pm »
Can you select which axis the spinner uses (X, Y, or Z?) or do you need to use multimouse for a multi spinner setup?

Any pics of the back side?

How much clearance do you need under the panel?


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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 11:25:38 am »
Can you select which axis the spinner uses (X, Y, or Z?) or do you need to use multimouse for a multi spinner setup?

Any pics of the back side?

How much clearance do you need under the panel?


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I actually have 3 controllers hooked up in Mame.
1) Trackball as my my main mouse
2) Then I added the spinner from the controller (it has its own USB)
3)  The trackball on the control panel (it also has its own USB)

Once you assign the controller in the game, MAME picks up the device,
but I don't know if you can assign it an ID, or which has priority.

I will post some pictures of the spinner mechanism shortly here.
I think the bottom side is much shorter, it's about the 2/3 the
length of a normal button shaft.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 12:03:22 pm »
The total length of spinner and controller is about 2 1/2 inches.

Here is a comparison with the normal button:




here it is inside:
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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 12:50:22 pm »
Thanks for the reply, but you didn't address the important part of the first question.
Can you select which axis the spinner uses (X, Y, or Z?)
If so, there should be a jumper or switch on the PCB.
- There doesn't appear to be space for that, but something could be hiding behind that blue wire.   :P


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P.S. Pics of black plastic on a black background with poor lighting?  *sigh*  At least the button shows up well in the pics.   ::)   :lol

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 04:02:39 pm »
Well it is hard holding up a control panel and taking pictures at the same time.  I think -1 did a great job.  I am happy he did the review which leads me to one question:

Can you get rid of the Atari Logo somehow?

Is there a screw hole that allows another top to be used?

It's kind of a deal breaker. Its distracting.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2020, 04:44:45 pm »
Curiosity got the best of me, so I just ordered one. I'll check in with my impression once I get it in hand.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2020, 08:37:16 pm »
Well it is hard holding up a control panel and taking pictures at the same time.  I think -1 did a great job.  I am happy he did the review which leads me to one question:

Can you get rid of the Atari Logo somehow?

Is there a screw hole that allows another top to be used?

It's kind of a deal breaker. Its distracting.

Yes because lord knows it would be too much effort to take the two disconnected things out of the control panel and sit them on a white sheet of paper.   ::)


If I'm not mistaken it's a rebranded version of this:

https://www.amazon.com/GRS-USB-Button-Hole-Spinner/dp/B08HNB5933

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 05:28:01 am »
Well it is hard holding up a control panel and taking pictures at the same time.  I think -1 did a great job.  I am happy he did the review which leads me to one question:

Can you get rid of the Atari Logo somehow?

Is there a screw hole that allows another top to be used?

It's kind of a deal breaker. Its distracting.

thanks,

i think its a sticker, and can be peeled off.

i like it.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2020, 05:36:46 am »
Can you select which axis the spinner uses (X, Y, or Z?) or do you need to use multimouse for a multi spinner setup?


Scott

scott, there is no dipswitches on there that i can see.
however, i can ask the help support people on microcenter.

they always come up with some way to rewire things on the control board.

as as test, i hooked up 3 spinners, and a trackball to MAME.

they showed up as multimouse, so yes, that works.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2020, 10:55:01 am »
Picked one of these up last night, haven't hooked it up yet, but the build quality feels good, heavy and spins freely.  They had one installed in a display cab in the store and it looked good even though it didn't match the color scheme of the cab.  I have a vinyl cutter so I will probably make a replacement decal.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 02:10:10 pm »
The new arcade1up atari pong jr uses
different spinners on this dedicated unit:




https://www.atari.com/atari-mini-pong-jr-brings-the-classic-pong-arcade-experience-to-homes-for-holiday-2020/
Key Features of the Atari Mini PONG Jr.:

Lightweight and compact in size

Perfect for home, office, and on-the-go

Play with AI or friends

Ten AI difficulty levels

Intuitive interface, simple to use controls

7.9 Inch LCD Panel

Lithium Rechargeable battery (3) for portable use

USB powered

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 03:24:06 pm »
Pong doesn't use spinners it uses paddles (pots) unless a1up screwed up again. 

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 04:19:44 pm »
Pong doesn't use spinners it uses paddles (pots)
Yes, the original arcade game uses pots, but this is a very different setup running different software.
- There have been a few advances in both hardware and software in the last 48 years.   :lol

For this application it makes more sense to use a spinner.
- No worries about damage from vigorously cranking the knob and slamming into the physical stop.
- No worries about wear/dirt/corrosion on the resistive element causing jitter.


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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 08:26:38 pm »
Well it is hard holding up a control panel and taking pictures at the same time.  I think -1 did a great job.  I am happy he did the review which leads me to one question:

Can you get rid of the Atari Logo somehow?

Is there a screw hole that allows another top to be used?

It's kind of a deal breaker. Its distracting.

There is a set screw that holds the black knob on the shaft, so yes, you could use another top.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 08:55:08 pm »
There is a set screw that holds the black knob on the shaft, so yes, you could use another top.
For anyone wanting to use an alternate top, is the shaft 6mm or 1/4"? (6.35mm)


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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2020, 09:10:01 am »
On a similar note, not quite.

Just bought the GRS Spinner v2 for the upcoming Asteroids 8-1 partycade:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5WJ7BC/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

No way, i was going to use the stock one.



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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2020, 01:02:39 pm »
There is a set screw that holds the black knob on the shaft, so yes, you could use another top.
For anyone wanting to use an alternate top, is the shaft 6mm or 1/4"? (6.35mm)


Scott

Looks closer to 5/8" to me!  The tape is touching the shaft.  Sorry I don't have calipers.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2020, 04:06:55 pm »
On a similar note, not quite.

Just bought the GRS Spinner v2 for the upcoming Asteroids 8-1 partycade:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5WJ7BC/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

No way, i was going to use the stock one.



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There is a knock-off version of this as well for $35 on amazon.... I'm kind of curious on this one as well.... the bearings look ok, I just wonder about that goofy board they are using to compensate for the a1up's weirdness and if it's ignored when using it on the pc.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2020, 08:22:51 pm »
Looks closer to 5/8" to me!
I think you mean 5/16", which is very close to 8mm.

  5/16" = 0.3125" = 7.9375mm.

The important takeaway is that you won't be able to use spinner tops from GGG (1/4"/6.35mm) or Ultimarc (6mm) with this Atari spinner.


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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 02:03:37 am »
On a similar note, not quite.

Just bought the GRS Spinner v2 for the upcoming Asteroids 8-1 partycade:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P5WJ7BC/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

No way, i was going to use the stock one.



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There is a knock-off version of this as well for $35 on amazon.... I'm kind of curious on this one as well.... the bearings look ok, I just wonder about that goofy board they are using to compensate for the a1up's weirdness and if it's ignored when using it on the pc.

the pcb board adds different delays needed for pc/pi/arcade 1up.

the knockoffs are just that, poorer quality than the originals, and some people have had
issues with them, from some of the posts i saw about it.

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 08:55:01 am »
Looks closer to 5/8" to me!
I think you mean 5/16", which is very close to 8mm.

  5/16" = 0.3125" = 7.9375mm.

The important takeaway is that you won't be able to use spinner tops from GGG (1/4"/6.35mm) or Ultimarc (6mm) with this Atari spinner.


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DOH, of course 5/16.  It's not over a half inch shaft.  :o

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Re: Atari - Branded USB Spinner
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 08:53:02 pm »
Got mine in today. Feels very solid and spins nicely. Looks like you can solder a couple of buttons to it if needed (RLG) pins, I'm guessing Right, Left , Ground for mouse buttons. Haven't hooked it up to anything yet but no regrets so far.
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