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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #160 on: October 04, 2019, 12:28:47 pm »
no delete...ONLY ADD!


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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #161 on: October 04, 2019, 04:34:50 pm »
...Anyway when we get back to this I'm thinking cabinet?
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #162 on: October 20, 2019, 11:14:36 pm »
Wire...A daunting task to be sure and a deep ugly subject. But we shall try to keep it to the machine at hand...Wire carries not only voltage, but also current, the latter is what also creates the heat, so simply put wire is not just a wire, there are many different kinds for specific purposes...automotive wire for example has a good resistance to abrasion and for the most part is what we are going to use in this build, However that primarily is a 22gauge at the smallest...Gaming/vending/arcade machines however used a range usually 16ga. Down to 24ga. As a industry standard...soooo....
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #163 on: October 20, 2019, 11:25:51 pm »
What we are going to do is, use a military spec, 24ga, (rated at 600v) automotive grade up to say 18 ga, (rated at the typical 300v) and back to Mil. spec. For power supply, and line wire...Easy right? Well, factory wire  is usually also custom made with color codes and bought in bulk on giant spools...As a restoration this obviously has to match the manual, and since the wire is usually only available as a 1000 ft. Min order, the cost on that many different color spools would be a serious waste of money and resources for just one machine...So you guessed  it, We are going to make small batch, custom wire on the kitchen table...
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #164 on: October 21, 2019, 07:58:09 am »
You are going to make custom wire?
Please show me this..
as someone who has a box of spools...  I'd like to know what this means   :)
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #165 on: October 21, 2019, 11:04:42 am »
It is not really than hard, (and yes I will do pics) although I tend to be a bit OCD...but first let's consider that box of wire of yours. If you cut a piece off and remove the insulation we find the wire, usually solid, or variences if stranded...In my case it is a 7 strand, used for flexibility as compared to solid, The more strands, the more reliability in places where it might move some (like doors and such)...And geneally speaking the insulation is PVC (poly vinyl cloride) although there are others like silicon, (but that's generally for high temp aplications)...Cheap wire is just that cheap, Usually bare (untinned) wire with dry brittle insulation. So depending on your application we need to find the correct wire for the project first.

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #166 on: October 21, 2019, 11:11:15 am »
Back to this machine, This is difficult since the wire is burnt black, missing insulation, and what is left got so hot it absorbed the smoke as it melted, making it difficult to get a reliable color match (mostly whites and yellows)...and since there were at least 2 revisions of this machine making me a bit skeptical of changes to the codes in whatever manual I have...We shall do our best in this respect.

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #167 on: October 21, 2019, 11:33:06 am »
I'll submit there is more OCD in this forum than any I'm on  ;)

I rewired a boat trailer this weekend...  crappy insulation had vibrated off inside the frame..  I was doubting myself for a minute..  everything showed shorted to everything on the continuity tester...    Until I pulled it all out.    People who use the little blue crimp splices need to get a shock every time they touch wiring as negative reinforcement..

All that said..
I've wired miles in my lifetime - but never made one.  Looking forward to it!

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #168 on: October 21, 2019, 12:52:41 pm »
A sharpie marker and spools of colored wire?

I'll make my own tracer, with blackjack.... And hookers!

Wiring is going to definitely be a project in itself.

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #169 on: October 21, 2019, 07:24:10 pm »
Markers or graffiti paint pens could be an alternative direction for this I would guess, Although Jenn has never tried that...What does work is this, MEK and fuel dye, if you can't find the Methyl where you guys live, PVC cleaner also works, you can find that in those little cans in the plumbers store.

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #170 on: October 21, 2019, 07:53:08 pm »
Fuuuuuuuuuuck that. :cheers:
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #171 on: October 22, 2019, 07:31:51 am »
I've never had to do that - but I'm happy I think I know how now..
Waiting to see more when you get there..
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #172 on: November 02, 2019, 02:44:56 pm »
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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #173 on: November 03, 2019, 02:06:21 pm »
*Jennifer laughs, That's funny ;D...I gave you the answer, 1oz. To .25ml. (With a eyedropper) is the recipie I used, And dip it into a paint cup for about 1 sec...Out of the 4 colors Jenn had on hand I made 7 of the 12 light board wires and oh yes are they sweet, Oh I I forgot to mention Fabric and vinyl bomber cans work also for the traces (duplicolor works good) since the carrier is methel kesters...However now we have a problem...

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Re: Jennifer "Hot" new pin...Part 2
« Reply #174 on: November 03, 2019, 02:27:05 pm »
The flashers (5) on the light board during a bench test failed to work, and after a binge into to manual (4the revision) can't seem to track down the voltage difference on that string for the bigger bulbs , as a AC current non-the less. So for now I may just upgrade that wire to a 22ga. Until I get to the bottom of this...