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Author Topic: EXPANSE - A wall mount space themed cabinet (5-12, Cabinet Complete)  (Read 9010 times)

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Re: Project REDSHIFT - a wall mounted 2-player upright (12-1, More woodworking)
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2018, 07:33:58 pm »
Started today by cutting some holes for sticks and trackball.


Next up was to do some routing, taking into account the depth of the plexiglass inlay.


Exactly 1/8" above the stick plate. Perfect.


Worked through the cut for the inlay. Things went... okay. I have some fixing to do after the router bit into the edges a couple times. Nothing a little bondo wont fix.



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Re: Project REDSHIFT - a wall mounted 2-player upright (12-1, More woodworking)
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2018, 08:19:01 pm »
nice work and good progress!
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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-5, Some Artwork)
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2018, 03:25:41 pm »
Here's some progress on the artwork. I found an artist that gave me permission to use his as a basis for this cabinet.
Feedback is appreciated.


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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-5, Some Artwork)
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2018, 08:53:54 am »
I really like the art!

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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-5, Some Artwork)
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2018, 11:06:32 am »
Nice theme!  Anything retro sci-fi gets my vote  :applaud:

Not sure about the name tho.   How about:  STELLAR, RETROPOLIS, GET READY or SPECTRA ?


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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-5, Some Artwork)
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2018, 02:21:49 pm »
Stellar isn't bad. I kind of like that.

Redshift limited my artwork (red duh!)

I'm totally open to name ideas and am not bolted down to anything.

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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-5, Some Artwork)
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2018, 06:13:17 pm »
More progress.
First, a detour on the control panel. Adding servos to the U360s.
The spacers are threaded. There is a tiny gap so the gate can rotate.


Cutouts for the servos in the control panel


Next I started to cut the plexiglass inlay but the bit decided to hate me.


So instead I cut the slots for the t-molding.


And made access doors. They fit tight so I need to sand them down a bit.


Finally, I cleaned up some of the oopsies on the control panel with some Bondo.



I still need to make the marquee, rear mounting fixtures, monitor retention blocks, and some supports inside the control panel. So many little things left!

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Re: Project EXPANSE (formerly REDSHIFT) - (12-8, More woodworking)
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2018, 12:22:40 pm »
Finally had some more time to work on the cabinet.

The inside of the control deck needed internal support to for both structure and to hold the curved hardboard.


Dowels, dowels, and more dowels


Test fitting, validating that it still goes together  ;D


This is looking at the bottom side. There is structure in the middle and rear to support the MDF.


Here's the top side.


Looking from the back.



I'm actually at the point where I could glue-up the control deck at this point. I think I may wait until the rest is ready for glue up then have a gluestraviganza!

I'm really happy with the weight of the control panel and the rigidity. It's tough and fairly light.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2018, 08:33:37 am »
Nice work - especially if this is your first time woodworking - seeing that you got a bunch of tools a while back.
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2018, 10:34:20 am »
Really appreciate the kind words!

I've built stuff in the past so I'm familiar with how to leverage the tools. This is by far the most intricate routing I've done though.

One thing I'm struggling with a bit is hinges for my panel doors. If anyone has ideas of something that will fit the bill I'm all ears. I wanted something hidden that mounts face frame and not euro style since the doors are thin.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2018, 08:34:42 am »
I used this type of hinge on A Little Rage.
Dont know how they would work with a very thin door, I used 1/2" MDF.
But maybe you could glue some braces to the door, the width of the hinge foot, running across inside width of door to re-enforce it?
I also used nuts and bolts in the door part of the hinge, and threaded inserts and bolts on the cabinet wall.

(You have a nice project, very professional looking router cuts).


« Last Edit: December 28, 2018, 08:41:36 am by DaOld Man »

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2018, 09:19:17 am »
Use magnets. Then you can pull the panels off completely for servicing.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2018, 06:32:01 pm »
I used this type of hinge on A Little Rage.
Dont know how they would work with a very thin door, I used 1/2" MDF.
But maybe you could glue some braces to the door, the width of the hinge foot, running across inside width of door to re-enforce it?
I also used nuts and bolts in the door part of the hinge, and threaded inserts and bolts on the cabinet wall.

(You have a nice project, very professional looking router cuts).

Thanks for the ideas, and positive comments. I'm trying with the router. It's quite the machine.

Use magnets. Then you can pull the panels off completely for servicing.

I actually really like this idea. Something I never considered. Magnets with really subtle pull straps exposed would honestly be easy, cheap, and great. Thanks Mike.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2018, 12:09:04 am »
Have used magnets from dead/ancient hard drives before for other projects, pretty strong, maybe an option ?

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-25, dowels, dowels, and more dowels)
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2018, 05:16:58 am »
There are rare earth magnets of all sizes available on Amazon.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2018, 06:44:23 pm »
Today I made some really huge progress.

First, I worked on the plexiglass inlay. This made me nervous. The original template was damaged and I had to remake one. Fortunately it turned out well.


Honestly, for this being my first insert ever I'm pretty pleased. It may be *too* good once paint is in there.


I moved on to doing some final pieces and fitting. Did I mention dowels? Lol.


And here it is dry fitted. It fits together well. I'm very pleased.






I decided to start gluing it up. This is honestly my least favorite part of the whole build so far.


I'll move on to gluing up the rest of the cabinet soon. The marquee is it's own animal that I'll work on soon. Originally it was going to be dowelled in too but I'm actually going to mix it up with some aluminum L stock to hold it all together.

Oh almost forgot - I made some holes for the Aimtrak sensor.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2018, 06:46:13 pm by meltman »

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2018, 08:28:54 pm »
Gluing is indeed one of the parts of my project I've enjoyed the least. Impressive what you've done here so far, especially with fitting the plexi.

I'm curious, and may have missed it upthread-what's the height of the CP going to be here?

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2018, 09:10:56 pm »
I get to pick cp height, it's wall mounted!  I canít remember what the usual height is.

Choose my own adventure :)

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2018, 09:58:18 pm »
That art does look great. I have been tinkering with the art from the same poster (NASA/Mars?). Looks killer how you did it. Looking forward to this one even more now  :)

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #59 on: December 31, 2018, 10:06:56 pm »
I'm enjoying the craftsmanship of this build! :cheers:
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2019, 05:07:26 am »
Nice to see some good progress... looking forward to seeing it all come together  :cheers:

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2019, 04:02:45 pm »
This is coming out great.  Really looking forward to seeing it finished - original designs are hard to come by these days.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2019, 11:07:05 am »
That art does look great. I have been tinkering with the art from the same poster (NASA/Mars?). Looks killer how you did it. Looking forward to this one even more now  :)

You got it! It's based heavily off of those posters. I have not done a good job citing my art source.
The artist I asked for permission to use as a basis is Qohen Leth from forums.frontier.co.uk.
Here's a link to the the artwork I deconstructed and refined to fit my cabinet.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/406794-Grand-Tour-wallpaper-printable-poster

Big shout out to Qohen Leth for giving me permission to base my cabinet off their amazing artwork!


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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2019, 04:47:54 pm »
This is great..

Whats inside hardware wise??

I`d beef up the audio a bit get some nice speakers in there...

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (12-29, huge progress)
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2019, 10:18:14 pm »
Thanks!
It's going to have a Dell Optiplex something or other, with an i7, micro PC.
I will be doing Linux based this time. My previous arcade was windows with GameEX. I've been playing with EmulationStation and been pleased with the responsiveness and ability to traverse thousands of games. I'm also extremely versed in both operating systems and pretty happy with Linux's "appliance" type feel. I'll be doing many games local, but with autofs mounting the big stuff off the NAS in my house.


The speakers I'm cautiously optimistic about - I played them with the amp just free air (they are self boxed) and was really surprised and impressed with them. They sounded better than the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- 2.1 setup in my old arcade - and I had no issues with that setup either.

I think I'll be okay on the audio department. I've left myself plenty of room if I need to swap out in the future though - well for 3" drivers and under I guess.

Appreciate the thoughts. Going to hit the glue up tomorrow, then start thinking about paint.

My plan after some reading,
50/50 PVA/Water mix
Sand
High build primer
Sand
Sand
Krylon Semi-Flat black
Done, Apply decals, inlays, and marquee

My old cabinet used a water based primer, then rolled on rustoleum. I was really happy with the durability, though the finish was close but not as good as spray.

I may be missing some good threads. Still reading. Any suggestions are welcome! Semi-Flat black is going to be the whole cabinet.
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-5, more huge progress)
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2019, 03:28:19 pm »
Gluing up the main cabinet! Woooo! Wont see this view again.


Totally know what I'm doing.


While that dries, mix up some 50/50 water/wood glue


And paint the control deck


Assemble! Check clearances


Clamps!


More PVA glue painting


The back, painted in PVA glue/water mix


Test fitting some PC placement


Letting it dry.



Next up, some bondo gap filling, 220 grit sanding, and some high build primer.


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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-5, more huge progress)
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2019, 02:59:24 pm »
A lot of hard work mate, takes ages, but it'll be worth it in the end :)  :applaud:

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-5, more huge progress)
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2019, 06:19:30 pm »
This is looking nice! I've heard of "washing" mdf with a glue/water mix before, but I've always wondered if it causes swelling? How stable have your results been given your application?

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-5, more huge progress)
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2019, 07:50:47 pm »
The MDF had very minimal swelling on the portions I routed (like the inlay) but that's what I expected. It's basically a poor man's sanding sealer intended to keep the MDF from drinking tons of paint. The glue/water mix really sealed the unit together filling the whole thing in a thin layer of glue basically. I'm happy with the sand-ability of it.

Speaking of which - paint prep today! Ugh

Some bondo to cover my screws holding the hard board.


Here's a trick I picked up over the years. I'm filling a gap here with bondo. Use some painters tape to limit where the bondo can go and you'll save yourself ages sanding. Wait until about 30 minutes after the bondo has started to set, then peel it up before it really gets solid.


Next is sanding with 220 grit which leaves a ready-for-paint finish.


Went pretty quick - I had some help today.


Next weekend comes the high build primer and with some luck more sanding (yay?).
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-6, Paint Prep)
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2019, 08:02:46 pm »
That's the price for putting her shoes on the wrong feet!

Looking good!

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-6, Paint Prep)
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2019, 08:38:01 pm »
That's the price for putting her shoes on the wrong feet!

She does it herself, Every... Single... Time...
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-12, I made a kill room)
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2019, 05:12:55 pm »
Today I made a kill room.






Don't worry, it's vented by a fan out the window. I also wore a respirator.
The pictures are of the first coat of primer. I did two more after that for full coverage.

Next:
Sand
Sand
Black
Sand
Black

The marquee is going to be special. I'm gathering materials for it now.
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-12, I made a kill room)
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2019, 06:14:36 pm »

Marquee time! My parts came in. There is a vertical line in this LCD it disappears if you push the FFC, so I'll throw some tape to keep it perfect.
It's 19x5.5, 1/2 1080p.



Would anyone be interested in these? I can get them in quantity. Would probably be around $200 each kit.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2019, 04:36:39 pm »
I spent a lot of time looking for an LCD marquee - but the pricing was WAY more than that..

Mine would be ~31 x 5.25 (or so) - Does the company make different sizes?  and/or can you send me a link?
19" would be too narrow in my case - but a very good find either way!

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2019, 08:58:13 pm »
Same here.  I REALLY want to go the digital marquee route but I butt pucker at the thought of spending $550 on a Vitrolight from China.

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2019, 12:43:05 am »
That's a good price.  I think it'll fit your cabinet design well, too - good choice.  I like your cab design and I think this will be cool in it.

For people looking - this panel is something around a 22" (diagonal) 16:9 monitor, cut in half.   

Aspect ratio of 16:4.5, or 32:9 if you wanna use that notation, or 3.55:1  - that's right in the sweet spot for where most arcade marquee art will fit nicely.  (I'm running a 2.84:1 digital marquee in Mimic and it's a little too tall.)

A lot of original arcade cabinets are 24" wide between verticals, so 19" will come up scant for them.  Most people here seem to end up going wider - or way wider - than original, which will exacerbate that problem for them.  You'd want to design the cabinet around this panel from scratch, as you have.  Perhaps put one of these over a 21" 4:3 LCD, which would be around 17" wide, in a small 19" between verticals bartop or cabaret... 

I don't need one myself, I'm set, but at that price that opens up some interesting designs I hope other people pursue.   :cheers:

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #76 on: January 19, 2019, 09:29:13 am »
Laythe is right, these are 21.5 inch panels that were cut in half. It is an LED panel.

I can only get this exact size. They are not new panels but reclaimed from a recycler. I had to source the controller which was difficult. These exact panels are around $450 new.

My cabinet is 30 wide in the middle, so I will have spacers on each side to take up around 5 inches each side. The whole marquee will be covered in a light grey smoked glass so it will look black when off. The monitor will be covered with the same glass for the same effect.




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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2019, 06:02:53 pm »
Keep up the good work, it looks awesome!
I might borrow the design, would you mind?

Iím sure you all know but the easiest dynamic marquee option today is a 25inch 21:9 monitor.
Samsungís IPS one is $159 now (!)
A bit too wide for this project if 21,5í 16:9 fits well, but 24í wide (609mm) is not bad.
They are a bit tall so perhaps hide a part of it..
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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2019, 09:24:23 am »
You've inspired me to take the plunge and buy a router once the weather gets un-frigid here. 

Really nice work.  This is fun to watch.  Thanks for posting so many photos!

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Re: Project EXPANSE - (1-17, LCD Marquee!)
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2019, 01:02:59 pm »
Would anyone be interested in these? I can get them in quantity. Would probably be around $200 each kit.

For that kind of cost Iíd def be interested for my current project. I have about a 30Ē wide marquee but like you said could have spacers and darken some plexi in front of it. Iíve just begun my contact with Vitrolight on Alibaba, but it is looking to be cost prohibitive. Shoot me a DM if you can and we can discuss details.



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