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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #280 on: August 02, 2019, 12:32:05 am »
Yep, I set that one up!

As I was about to pull the trigger on the Emerson, I got another idea. Will hold off on that one right now.

As for Control Panel height...I ended up cutting an inch shorter so that the wife can play too. It's now about 37" from ground to top of control panel. If it was just me, I would've stuck at 38", and I'm about 5'10" when not slouching.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #281 on: August 07, 2019, 12:10:47 pm »
Thank you J_K_M_A_N, and gingecko for the input.  After debating on it for some time and modeling endlessly in SketchUp, I decided I would cut 1.5" off the bottom which brings the control panel height to 38.5".  It oddly balances the ratio of below control panel and above control panel heights better than before, so I think it actually improves the profile of the machine.

Didn't get any time to work this last weekend, but I should this weekend.  For now it's drawing lines and sit and wait:


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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #282 on: August 13, 2019, 10:34:44 am »
Got some time again on Sunday and a little yesterday.  Decided to tackle the base as I would like to be able to start assembling the lower half soon.  I bought some casters from Penn-Elcom as they were rated to handle a heavy load.  The metal frame on them is 3.25” so I was grappling in the design phase on how I would mount them.  I came across 3.5” redwood while looking around home depot and thought it would be perfect so I grabbed the default 10ft. piece:



I thought this would also help to add weight to the base to lower the center of gravity…just in case.

My usual techniques failed as a jig saw cannot cut through as the blade starts to bounce on the wood it’s not able to cut on the downstroke, started to get unruly.  I had borrowed a co-workers very basic circular saw with a very old blade and figured screw it:



Cuts didn’t come out too bad:



But the blade wasn’t long enough to make the cut on one or even two goes, so I had to repeat the above on all 4 sides.  Got me my rough cut and then it was off to routing for a smooth edge……errr:



As you can tell I could have really used a good table saw or circular saw as it became a pain in the ass to cut, lower, cut, lower, flip, change bit, cut, raise, cut raise.  Doing this for 4 pieces and 2 sides each translated to the better part of the morning/afternoon.  I did get my dimensions right and did have clean surfaces so that’s a plus:



Next was routing out the necessary areas to fit the castor.  I struggled with this for awhile as it took quite a long time drawing circles for me to realize that the caster frame wasn't actually a circle but was straight near the edges.  So as I was short on time and because I wanted to get something done and this wasn’t going to be something anyone would see I decided to trace the outline as best as possible and freehand a template.  Didn’t come out too bad:



Placed the template on top of the piece:



which presented an issue setting up a stable cut, so this was the best I could come up with:



Could really have used a nice vice, but this worked:





Routed the other piece:



Was pumped to put it together:



Dooohh!!



Oh yeah it has bolts, duh.



Cut some more out free hand and finally got what I was looking for:







That’s was far as I could get before the clock ran out.  One thing I’ve noticed is that the redwood is softer and is more easily dented, and chips easier when routing.  Overall I think it will work well but I don’t think I would use it for anything that you would have visible on the outside of a cab.
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #283 on: August 13, 2019, 10:51:43 am »
 Nice work.

I am interested to see how this will all come together...Especially since it has to be done by early December. :bat

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« Reply #284 on: August 13, 2019, 10:58:16 am »
Great update as usual.

I bought these casters for my build:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017GLWKXK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But yours look sooo much better. It seems like it's all starting to come together now. Looking forward to the next update :-)

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« Reply #285 on: August 13, 2019, 11:00:23 am »
Nice to get some shop time in!

May need to add a chop saw to the tool stable...   :applaud:
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« Reply #286 on: August 13, 2019, 11:49:54 am »
Those are sweet castors, where did you get them? Adding those things is way trickier/time consuming than I expected, so I'm glad I at least got that part done.

Looking good!

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #287 on: August 13, 2019, 06:10:15 pm »
...Especially since it has to be done by early December. :bat

Yeeaaahhh about that, you wouldn't have a time machine handy would ya?

May need to add a chop saw to the tool stable...   :applaud:

I know I am probably embarrassing you right now Master Kenobi.  I promise I'll do better.

I bought these casters for my build:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017GLWKXK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But yours look sooo much better.

Those look like they'll work just fine.  I don't think there's any rule on this sort of thing, just whatever works for your requirements.

Those are sweet castors, where did you get them?

Cheers Bud.  They're from Penn-Elcom, link here:  Penn-Elcom Heavy Duty Recessed Castor W8075

You have to call them to get it in black.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #288 on: August 13, 2019, 09:14:24 pm »
You are doing great work - keep it up!


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« Reply #289 on: August 14, 2019, 01:07:49 am »
Nice that the wheels are enclosed and they have screw holes all over the edges. Sure would make mounting a lot easier!

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #290 on: Yesterday at 12:04:18 pm »
Managed to get the base built.

Here are the leg levelers (Twisted Quarter off E-Bay) that I am using opposite the castors:



Actually thought about posting this pic for help but after thinking about it more I realized the adjustable bolt should be below the plate, like the one on the left.

These are the braces I’m using that I found at Home Depot.  Only problem was they weren’t designed with screws in mind, but rather for large bolts.  So I used the drill press to cut holes and then the countersink to get it flush with the #10 screws that I am using (2.5” long). 



I got the good tip from bperkins to make sure the screws cover 75% of the width of the material, that was helpful info.  I used large clamps I bought to hold everything together while drilling and screwing.

An issue that I had was that the leg levelers if mounted directly to the wood would end up being higher up than the castor wheels.  So I needed to route down wood and lower the mounting plates.

Probably didn’t need to be this accurate, but I figured screw it, why not make it pretty and build a template:







Double sided sticky tape and it came out good:



Used a chisel to make those rounded corners fit a right angle so the mounting plate would fit.

Next was drilling out the hole for the bolts.  Setup a support for the wood and used the drill press (forstner bit) for a straight plunge:





And done:






Jumped up and down on it a number of times just to make sure and it feels rock solid.  The leg leveler mounting plates and castor plates act as additional reinforcement in addition to the braces.

I also managed to cut a number of rectangles and fix the height issue by lopping off the roughly 1.5” off the bottom of the side pieces.  Won’t bother posting pics of rectangles…..unless BYOAC is THAT boring today…hehe.

I’m keeping track of progress in SketchUp to see what’s been cut (in green), and what is outstanding……getting there:


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« Reply #291 on: Yesterday at 12:21:08 pm »
Niiiice. Great looking base.

So you used double sided sticky tape to hold your jig in place while routing? I'd be worried that my router would fling that through the neighbor's window. Mine is such a beast, I want to get a nice palm router for smaller jobs someday.

I've been keeping my ToDo list in a Google doc and breaking it down by section/tasks. Works decent enough for me. I like your visual diagram checklist though. Looks like you're 2/3 of the way there?

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« Reply #293 on: Yesterday at 01:20:00 pm »
So you used double sided sticky tape to hold your jig in place while routing?

It's actually 3M Scotch double sided mounting tape.  It's stupid strong, so strong in fact I have a tough time separating it after I'm done with the template.  I avoid using it if possible as it's more time intensive to setup, and it can take a small amount of material off when you remove it (just a few fibers, sometimes more).

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In my head the things already built.  When I walk into the garage it feels like I just started.  I am getting faster though, and the wife is freeing me up more for time.  I've actually considered taking time off of work just to move this thing along :o
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You are taking your first steps toward the dark side. Don't look back.

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I've actually considered taking time off of work just to move this thing along :o

You are taking your first steps toward the dark side. Don't look back.

You know you are getting old when this sounds better than a weekend in Vegas.
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« Reply #296 on: Yesterday at 01:28:04 pm »
Ok.  Funny.  I’m on a plane at this moment.  To Vegas. 
Business trip
Nice work! 
I use double stick tape all the time. I’ll send a link to the stuff I use.  Perfect for woodworking and holding Templates



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I've actually considered taking time off of work just to move this thing along :o

You are taking your first steps toward the dark side. Don't look back.

You know you are getting old when this sounds better than a weekend in Vegas.

Ha ha!! Yep, I can identify with that... I was watching a mucky film last week on pornhub and paused it so I could take a closer look at how nice the coffee table looked....

Great update as always Arroyo :)

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« Reply #298 on: Yesterday at 03:45:59 pm »
Wow sick - talk about attention to detail.  Love it.   :applaud:

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« Reply #299 on: Yesterday at 04:44:42 pm »
Pricier than I remember..
But this stuff is the perfect balance of double stick tape - not so thick that it creates a gap, yet not so thin that it can't stick to wood grain.

I use it all the time for template routing - in fact - if you use too much - it can get difficult to pry stuff apart.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodworking-tape-1-x-50
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