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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #80 on: October 19, 2017, 12:03:18 pm »
But you did something wrong if you destroyed the outside of the case ;)

Hence me going the NES Pi route home slice.


Make sure you build your Pi with a class 10 micro SD card. Like this one

I think some of the complaints people have with Pi performance is due to them using slow sd cards.

I had one of these in my stash VW.  So I should be good...

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #81 on: October 19, 2017, 12:17:46 pm »
I had one of these in my stash VW.  So I should be good...

Yep, that one looks good!

And like you said...all the ETA prime videos on YouTube are really great for learning how to set up Retropie.

So far, the only real "issue" I have had is getting all the metadata (box art, etc) to scrape. A couple games don't seem to register with the online DB. Not a huge deal because you can manually put that data in. Just kind of annoying because they are games with common titles.

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2017, 12:24:43 pm »
Use Stephen Selphs scraper

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2017, 12:28:30 pm »
Use Stephen Selphs scraper

I looked into doing that, but quickly got annoyed with the work it took to get it set up. Then I became even more annoyed that if it worked so well, then why isn't it just built into the latest RetroPie image?

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« Reply #84 on: October 19, 2017, 12:45:33 pm »
I have no idea why its not built in but it is by far the best scraper.

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« Reply #85 on: October 19, 2017, 02:16:54 pm »
I read the following on a random web site about Selphs Scraper...

Why are there two included scrapers? Why does it take so damned long?

Emulation Station needs two things to look its best: boxart for each game, and a ‘gamelist.xml’ full of metadata for each system. ES has a built-in-scraper, but that uses your roms’ filenames to identify them. That method can be pretty unpredictable.
It’s a better idea to use the included “Steven Selph” scraper in the Retropie textual menus, as it uses rom hashes to provide much more accurate results.

But it takes forever.

To fix:
Note that you can’t use the Selph scraper if Emulation Station is open, or its work will be overwritten. Quit from ES before scraping (If you’re logged in remotely: “killall emulationstation“) then get busy:
sudo ~/RetroPie-Setup/retropie_setup.sh
setup/tools
scraper

The scraper will first download all your images in one big queue, and you can watch as things happen in the terminal. This takes about five minutes. Then, at the end of your queue, everything will freeze…or will appear to. For HOURS. Don’t break out of it. Let it sit and ‘do nothing’. Even though there is no visual feedback, the current system’s gamelist.xml is being generated. A recent scrape of ~120 Genesis roms took about three ---smurfing--- hours, conservatively.

The only setting I’d really change from the defaults is to disable “Thumbnails Only”. When I left that enabled I ended up with a bunch of low-res blurry upscales.

I agree, this slow scraping thing sucks because it’s probably one of the first things you’ll do when you set up your RetroPie install, and during this whole time you can’t play anything. Let it run overnight.

As nice as it is to look at and use, Emulation Station seems to have been abandoned by its author with no updates in over a year. The reliance on huge, slow-to-process XML files was one of the things he had hoped to have fixed before he eventually lost interest in the project. This might get fixed someday, but for now it’s best to limit your romsets to a couple hundred, rather than a couple thousand, just to keep EmulationStation running smoothly.

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #86 on: October 19, 2017, 03:43:52 pm »
Not sure why people moan its that slow.

The inbuilt one is stupidly slow but Stephens is pretty quick in my experiences of using it.

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« Reply #87 on: October 19, 2017, 04:45:56 pm »
On a related note, I'm mildly disappointed in the box-art resolution. If you have a theme that uses large box-art, then it's pixelated.

I think low-resolution box art was used to keep the dashboard snappy but I might replace all my boxart with higher rez images and see how it performs...can't be that bad.
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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #88 on: October 19, 2017, 07:51:24 pm »
I totally forgot about the scraping!

What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play. No more using every NES and SNES game, I only loaded up the games I actually played and any other games from the minis. I used the built-in scraper and I let it find everything automatically. That sucked. I erased it all and did it again, but for some reason the scraper was fast as ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. I was able to do them all manually in about 20 minutes.

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« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2017, 06:53:20 am »
What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play.

I could never understand people throwing every single game on their console just because they can...

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« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2017, 07:56:33 pm »
What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play.

I could never understand people throwing every single game on their console just because they can...

Really? Ever? I thought we were all guilty of that. Since I didn't have the money to play all the games back-in-the-day I loaded them all up so I could check them out. I used to randomly check out different games, but anymore I just play games for nostalgia. Stuck on Chocolate Island 4 in Super Mario World now. Getting all kinds of pissed, lol.

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2017, 08:11:14 pm »
What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play.

I could never understand people throwing every single game on their console just because they can...

Really? Ever? I thought we were all guilty of that. Since I didn't have the money to play all the games back-in-the-day I loaded them all up so I could check them out. I used to randomly check out different games, but anymore I just play games for nostalgia. Stuck on Chocolate Island 4 in Super Mario World now. Getting all kinds of pissed, lol.

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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2017, 01:25:50 am »
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« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2017, 02:06:11 am »
Well, you have all them GB’s of space why not chuck every game ever on?

Both my Segapi and Pitendo have all games on except the ones that are unplayable (light gun games etc).

But they also both have fav lists so I can quickly find the games I mostly play :)

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« Reply #94 on: October 23, 2017, 06:54:36 am »
What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play.

I could never understand people throwing every single game on their console just because they can...

Really? Ever? I thought we were all guilty of that. Since I didn't have the money to play all the games back-in-the-day I loaded them all up so I could check them out. I used to randomly check out different games, but anymore I just play games for nostalgia. Stuck on Chocolate Island 4 in Super Mario World now. Getting all kinds of pissed, lol.

I get exploring new games but throwing 679 NES games alone onto an emulator console seems like over kill.  You aren't going to be sitting around one day and say to yourself:

"Damn.  I guess I'm all played out on Bases Loaded 2.  Seems like a Bases Loaded 3 kind of day."

Nawahmean?

On a side note I received my NES Pi setup on Saturday.  I'm going to start tinkering this week if I can keep my eyes open when I get home.  This waking up at 4 am to get to work is for the birds.

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« Reply #95 on: October 23, 2017, 08:13:09 am »
I like the first bases loaded the best, it was the closest to  Moero!! Pro Yakyuu and it was actually the first NES game I ever owned (got the NES with mario, pack ins dont count! , bases loaded, and Urban Champion)
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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #96 on: October 23, 2017, 12:15:34 pm »
Pictured - the elusive Pi based cabinet at an arcade show.



Notice that it's taken a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mid-game.



This forum needs more threads about Arcade 1Up cabinets.

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« Reply #97 on: October 23, 2017, 12:23:55 pm »
Pictured - the elusive Pi based cabinet at an arcade show.



Notice that it's taken a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mid-game.

That cab looks like ass.
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« Reply #98 on: October 23, 2017, 12:32:27 pm »
At first glance, it actually looked okay.  Then I noticed that the controls were just mounted to a board and exposed underneath.  And it was angled and uncomfortable to play.

Then I noticed the artwork was all out of alignment.  I think he slapped posters on the side and then screwed through plexiglass to hold them up.

Would have been fine as a first effort in someone's garage.  A little weird to bring to a show and try to sell, though.




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« Reply #99 on: October 23, 2017, 12:37:06 pm »
Pictured - the elusive Pi based cabinet at an arcade show.



Notice that it's taken a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mid-game.

That cab looks like ass.


^ what Yot said :p

He was trying to sell that at a trade show?
Dangg!!

Just another poorly set up pie being passed off as a full package I guess.

But the read q is on a upright cab why the ---smurfing--- hell didnt he use a PC!?

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« Reply #100 on: October 23, 2017, 03:21:36 pm »
Pictured - the elusive Pi based cabinet at an arcade show.

Notice that it's taken a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mid-game.

Well, the cabinet probably has only about 24 cubic feet of space inside it. That really limits your hardware options. Sometimes you just have to use a Pi.

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« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2017, 06:54:33 am »
Ok fellows.  I had Saturday to myself and was able to set up my Pi 3 with Retro Pie and Emulation Station.  Would I say that my first experience was 'awesome'?  No.  I would categorize it as easy.  Within the span of a day I had it up and running with the help of tutorials by ETA Prime on Youtube.  It took longer to rip my Playstation games than it did to actually set up the Pi.  Now I just have to do some tweaks and I'll be ready to go.
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Re: RPis are awesome!
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2017, 08:34:04 am »
What I did with my Pi was only load on the games I wanted to play.

I could never understand people throwing every single game on their console just because they can...

I used to do this on my arcade machine and I've just recently wiped my cabinet and am only adding a curated list of games onto it.   The hoarder in me thought it was cool to have everything... and I still do on archival drives and elsewhere.  But on my cabinet it became a hinderance.  It took forever for me to get to a game I wanted to play, and it was too overwhelming for anyone else who ever wanted to try it.  There might be a couple hundred games people will ever play, and adding every arcade game ever made just makes for a confusing jumble of crap, and makes navigating the frontend a nightmare.

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« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2017, 11:10:12 am »
The only game that anyone that comes to your house will EVER want to play is Galaga.

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« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2017, 11:20:20 am »
My MAME cab has about a dozen games on it. I could probably lop off a couple more. I have a bunch of dedicated driving arcade machines. My friends all have young kids. They love the drivers. Adult men that come over want to play Galaga. The women typically want to play centipede, if they play the games at all.

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« Reply #105 on: October 30, 2017, 12:43:45 pm »
Ya know out of everyone thats ever played on my cab not one has ever asked for Galaga
Must be an American thing.

Most people request Pac Man or Space Invaders.
Oh or Street Fighter 2.

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« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2017, 01:08:02 pm »
Ya know out of everyone thats ever played on my cab not one has ever asked for Galaga
Must be an American thing.

Most people request Pac Man or Space Invaders.
Oh or Street Fighter 2.
My youngest had some friends over Saturday to play games. My dedicated Galaga is not working at the moment. What's the first game I was asked about?  Galaga. Fortunately they could play it on my MAME cabinet but it still made me laugh.

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« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2017, 06:50:35 am »
Everybody wants to play Galaga because it rocks.  Spent last night adding carousel logos and backgrounds to ruckages NES Mini Theme.  It was extremely easy with WinSCP.  Almost easy as....pie?

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« Reply #108 on: October 31, 2017, 09:16:28 am »
Ya know out of everyone thats ever played on my cab not one has ever asked for Galaga
Must be an American thing.

Most people request Pac Man or Space Invaders.
Oh or Street Fighter 2.

Must be. Here's a story for you.
Maybe 4 yrs ago I had made a bunch of light cabaret arcade machines with various multigame pcbs, which were the entrance to an art exhibit about video game stuff in a real art gallery.

It was in an eclectic little hippie town. (Lots of the 60-70yr old real hippies from the 60s Bay area in this particular town)
One afternoon in walks a couple who were clearly ex-hippies but they were nicely dressed and well-educated.
I'm thinking to myself, wow they walked into the wrong store front?
A pacman painted cabinet was the first item by the door, but the first thing he asked......Do you have Galaga?  I really liked playing Galaga.   Why yes, yes we do...and I led him to an ArcadeSD powered machine.

I have a friend with a home arcade of 30plus machines, he holds house parties near Des Moines Iowa.  He has a row of all the midway's, all of the nintendo titles, atari titles, etc.  But he didn't have Galaga and that's what he always gets asked about.
I ended up making him a cabaret with the NAMCO Reunion Ms Pac/Galaga fpga.   
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« Reply #109 on: October 31, 2017, 02:44:56 pm »
Ya know out of everyone thats ever played on my cab not one has ever asked for Galaga
Must be an North American thing.
FTFY.
In Canada, Galaga was also really popular. I remember seeing it a lot in malls and hotel lobbies BITD.

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« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2017, 02:29:50 pm »
Finally got around to installing the NES logo decal on my mini NES.

Turned out OK. The edges are not quite as invisible as I was expecting but it's certainly better than "RetroFlag for all of us" (whatever that means   ???). Here's how it compares to my minty childhood NES:

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« Reply #111 on: November 03, 2017, 02:32:38 pm »
Looks much better!

But ime gana annoy you now and point out its sloping down to the right LOL

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« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2017, 02:41:06 pm »
Looks much better!

But ime gana annoy you now and point out its sloping down to the right LOL

Thanks...now I can't un-see it.  ;)

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« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2017, 02:41:53 pm »
Sorry...

Its my OCD LOL

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« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2017, 03:42:54 pm »
Did some one say galaga?! :cheers:

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« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2017, 12:46:46 pm »
I love my RPi3, although I'm using mine for something a little different.



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