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PS3 + PS4 + RetroPie 4-player Arcade Cab
« on: August 19, 2017, 10:17:01 pm »
Hello All,

Long time reader, first time poster. I am in the planning/designing stage of my first arcade cabinet! Most of my arcade memories were throughout the 90's and I'm a sucker for fighting games and beat-em ups. A few months back I setup a RetroPi system out of a Raspberry Pi 3 and I'm loving that already just plugged into my TV, nothing fancy, which started a spark to finally plan my build! I couldn't be more excited!

For my first cab I want to do it right as it may be the only one I ever build. For the brains of the system I'm imagining a RetroPi (for classic 90's era arcade games), a PS3 (mostly collecting dust right now, but I have a number of fighting games for it), and PS4 (I would probably be moving this back and forth from my main TV to the cabinet, but lots of great fighting games already on this one, with more to come).

My dilemma:
I'm looking for ideas or advice on how to connect the arcade controls to these three systems, with the ability to switch between the systems. If any of you have ideas or could point me in the right direction maybe to equipment or a similar project I could learn from, I would be very grateful.

Here are the bullet points so far:

Brains:
RetroPi on Raspberry Pie 3
PS3
PS4

Controller:
4 - Player controls (must be compatible with PS3, PS4, and RetroPi)
11 buttons per player (8 PS buttons + Select + Start + Home), still debating if that's overkill and might reduce # of buttons for players 3 & 4
Buttons to switch between the three systems.

Other devices:
32" LCD TV
LED lights
Coin Door
3.1 sound
Volume knob w/ headphone jack
Pull out tray for Keyboard and Mouse.

Must have games:
Mortal Kombat Series
Street Fighter Series
VS. Series (x-men vs SF, Marvel vs. Capcom)
Beat-em ups (Ninja Turtles, Simpsons, Alien vs. Predator)
NBA Jam
X-Men
Avengers
NEO GEO games

Inspirational cabs  :notworthy::
ChanceKJ's FLYNN'S ARCADE
aspirex's Pathway Cabinet Build
deezdrama's MortalKab

My Sketch


My Connection Diagram (so far) just to give you an idea of what I'm looking for. I'm sure this will have to change:


Thank you for your time and for any suggestions !  :)
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Re: PS3 + PS4 + RetroPie 4-player Arcade Cab
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 02:48:41 pm »
What 4 player game needs that many buttons?

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 03:16:24 pm »
What 4 player game needs that many buttons?
Good question. Definitely only need those amount of buttons for PS3/PS4 couch co-op games and you might be surprised how many there are for 4 players. A good list here:  http://www.co-optimus.com/system/2/playstation-3.html

Mortal Kombat 9 actually had 4-player co-op and it was a lot of fun!

Just a concept for now, at the very minimum it would be 4 buttons for players 3 and 4.


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Re: PS3 + PS4 + RetroPie 4-player Arcade Cab
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 05:35:45 pm »
Can the PS systems, and build a 4 player fighting/beat em up cab.

Nobody can smash 11 buttons for ANY game successfully.  :dizzy:

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Re: PS3 + PS4 + RetroPie 4-player Arcade Cab
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 11:15:40 pm »
Marquee my brother  :cheers:

The problem with 30 day deadlines, is that you dont think things through.

Before you build a disaster, let me stop you here on the multi-console idea....don't do it.

Your going to run into issues for the controls, it's really not worth the hassle.  Last i heard ps4 controls are only emulated by a hacked stick or the brooks fighting boards, which run 90.00 a piece per player.

PS3 and retropie controls are feasible on other cheaper devices, but you'd have to setup up one helluva smart relay board to switch the controls over to the correct control device, and relays are known to fail.

From what it looks like you just want a mame machine, you might wanna go PC as that would cover your list, not sure why you want a PS3 or PS4 console coupled with MAME.  Really sit down and think about what games your really going to play the most.  Dont cram alot of crud in there for a one game fix.

The 8 8 8 8 panel is  :whap not a good idea at all.  It's just ugly, and emulating mk9 4 player will be slow as hell.

Rethink your plan man, downsize and make it more efficient to what your really going to play.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 01:51:04 am »
Thanks guys for the input. I do realize 8 8 8 8 may be a bit overkill so that definitely might change. That deadline is definitely soft to give me something to aim for, I'm DEFINITELY not going to rush this by any means. But button count and deadlines aside, I REALLY want to at least try the multi-console route and must something together before even attempting to build the cab.

I'm going to start small by connecting my PS3 and Rasberry Pi to the same PS3 Joystick I have and go from there. But need to figure out how. Maybe an HDMI/USB KVM ???

I also saw this video on youtube and it's almost exactly what I want, but need to know how to have a button switch the video and controller input at the same time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3mtOyWnILc&t=15s
The description states using a Jamma Connector, but still not crystal clear on how they have this working on their setup. Any ideas?

BTW, rablack97 that MK cab is a masterpiece!

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Re: PS3 + PS4 + RetroPie 4-player Arcade Cab
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 05:22:07 am »
Regarding PS3 and PS4, ask yourself - do you EVER stand up to play your PS3/PS4 currently? Because, in a cabinet, that is essentially what you'd be doing.

As others have said, keep the cabinet as the RetroPi - arcade games - and play the PS3/PS4 as intended - on a couch, with a PS controller.

  
 

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