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Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« on: June 28, 2017, 12:32:31 pm »
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a GT 2007 (or newer) rom playable on MAME yet? It's been 10 years since the release of GT 2007, so I would assume that it has been emulated somewhere by now.

Please let me know... Thanks!

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2017, 03:38:32 pm »
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a GT 2007 (or newer) rom playable on MAME yet? It's been 10 years since the release of GT 2007, so I would assume that it has been emulated somewhere by now.

Please let me know... Thanks!

they run on what is basically just a modern PC, so no, not a chance of MAME emulating it; if we did it would run at about 1 frame per hour.

it has nothing to do with date, everything to do with hardware.

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2017, 07:35:52 pm »
modern golden tee runs on a standard PC hardware setup with a version of linux for the OS. nothing to emulate.

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2017, 11:24:13 pm »
Interesting, I didn't know that about GT!

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 01:46:09 pm »
Thanks for the response. So, if somebody wanted to add a GT 2007 or newer to their home machine, are you saying that they would need the entire computer core from a newer GT to be installed in their home machine? Could you not just add the GT software into MAME PC hardware and make it a playable PC game in the midst of all of the the other MAME roms? Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions... I'm still learning about a lot of this stuff.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 01:52:18 pm »
golden tee 2007 and up are server bound
it is about that easy to understand
there are 0 game roms

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 02:30:35 pm »
the newer golden tee software runs on a specific set of boards, essentially to limit who/where you can purchase hardware for replacement.

Really, it is a standard off the shelf Intel branded motherboard... but the linux OS only has provisions for that board series installed the OS so it can't be switched out with something else. so if your board or videocard goes for crap, you must obtain an exact part for part model replacement. (for example an original "Zotac 750ti"... where an "asus" branded 750ti would not work.)

I think you are confusing what mame ACTUALLY does in the scope of arcade gaming.

in a nutshell MAME specifically emulates a series of computer chips that make up the original game board as software. so it can take the game data (ROM's), run it through the software "chips" to output a converted data stream that a modern CPU can handle and understand and apply to your system. to emulate a different game board it's just a matter of finding out which "chips"  the original game board used and running the rom data though the appropriate "chips"

because the new golden tee is pc hardware already...there is nothing to emulate.

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 12:28:17 pm »
the newer golden tee software runs on a specific set of boards, essentially to limit who/where you can purchase hardware for replacement.

Really, it is a standard off the shelf Intel branded motherboard... but the linux OS only has provisions for that board series installed the OS so it can't be switched out with something else. so if your board or videocard goes for crap, you must obtain an exact part for part model replacement. (for example an original "Zotac 750ti"... where an "asus" branded 750ti would not work.)

I think you are confusing what mame ACTUALLY does in the scope of arcade gaming.

in a nutshell MAME specifically emulates a series of computer chips that make up the original game board as software. so it can take the game data (ROM's), run it through the software "chips" to output a converted data stream that a modern CPU can handle and understand and apply to your system. to emulate a different game board it's just a matter of finding out which "chips"  the original game board used and running the rom data though the appropriate "chips"

because the new golden tee is pc hardware already...there is nothing to emulate.

actually there's an entire PC to emulate, including those exact models of video cards etc. the software requires. 

just because the machine / PCB is a PC doesn't actually make it any different to anything else.

although as I said earlier, the hardware is magnitudes faster than anything actually emulated in MAME right now; we just emulated some 486 based Mega Touch XL machines that only just get full speed on a current system (and yes, those are PCs too, running DOS and expecting very specific touchscreen hardware etc. to be emulated)

since these are moden PCs, maybe 100x faster than a 486.. the driver will be 100x slower, so it's not really practical to do it in MAME at this point in time.

it's quite scary that some people don't "get" this tho, and think anything PC based can simply be junked, eventually we'll need good dumps of all of them.



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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 12:31:46 pm »
i'm sure with enough knowledge of linux, a guy could dump the appropriate drives into linux to support different hardware.

I know nothing of linux.

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Re: Golden Tee MAME ROM 2007 or newer?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 01:15:30 pm »
ok i stated a post or 2 back on this matter
in a nut shell,have any of the mame ppl ever dumped a golden tee 2007 or better ? (hard drive) ?
if so what do u think u found ? or would find ?
did it ever come across your mind that the live 1's are server bound ? and get live up-dates (un-less there is a complete re-write/hardware change) then we get a live up-date usb stick.(keyed to our "cid"),on the home unit's it is a total new beast
as they do not go "live" they do not up-date there stat's,etc/etc
so your best bet at a hack would be a home unit
but even as haze pointed out
it would be frame-frame slower +
and never go live (no cid file)

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