Help me learn a $40 lesson

[Mike A]

Yarrrgh. Ye spelled pygmy wrong again. On my ship Ye be walkin' the plank fer such bad spellin'. ROM pirates have no time fer yer nonsense mister ROM policeman.

[Mike A]

from this day ferwerd, ye be gettin' only pirate talk from me Ark. I've learnt me lesson from me superior the great ROM policeman. Since I've no life of me own, It's a pirates life fer me. Yo Ho Yo Ho.

[Nephasth]

Legal...

[Mike A]

Is this ark_ader guy for real? I told a couple of guys even newer than me that people here are helpful and don't crap on you for no reason. This tool seems to be an exception. He keeps derailing this thread just to massage his ego because he thinks he has some kind of moral authority. He even told me I have no life. I didn't realize we were back in 3rd grade. That is why I will only address him in pirate talk from now on.

[yotsuya]

Ark Gotta Ark.

Actually, I  don't really disagree with him. If we're not allowed to tell people where to buy them, why should we "support" them?

[Mike A]

You would say it without being a condescending --cream-filled twinkie--. I would be more inclined to listen to what you have to say. I would lean toward helping someone out unless someone in charge of this thing told me not to. This site is full of instructions on how to use ROMs. I don't really see much of a difference. They are all shades of gray.

[Titchgamer]

Ark Gotta Ark.

Actually, I  don't really disagree with him. If we're not allowed to tell people where to buy them, why should we "support" them?

We all have a similar passion, we are breaking no rules and its good to help your fellow man.

Good enough reasons? LOL

[yotsuya]

When I started here,  talking about them was taboo. That seems to have relaxed over time,  but old habits die hard.

[Titchgamer]

I think the whole emulation scene  will always be Taboo tbh.

But at the end of the day its nut jobs like us that keep these games and machines etc alive that would otherwise probably vanish into the depths of time.

I would be very sad to think that a few generations down the line these things disappeared from memory.

I think anything we can do to stop that should be done for future gamers.

Yeah ime a soft old b*****d who loves his games....

[gdonovan]

But at the end of the day its nut jobs like us that keep these games and machines etc alive that would otherwise probably vanish into the depths of time.

The car clubs are no different. There are guys with a holier than thou attitude who insist their car is better because it has factory steel vs aftermarket replacement or argue some chalk mark is missing on the vehicle at hand or even if a car has the correct date coded mufflers!

If AMD did not make replacement sheet metal for our cars... I bet the hobby would just about die. All the parts cars are mostly gone and they were no great shakes to start with.

Oh the howls of outrage when it was learned I took an original spare Road Runner hood and made a big hole in it!

Go. Have fun. The reaper will be at your door soon enough and no one will care if you used an original or reproduction.

[paigeoliver]

Ark Gotta Ark.

Actually, I  don't really disagree with him. If we're not allowed to tell people where to buy them, why should we "support" them?

The ban on telling people where to buy them is at this point ridiculously outdated. Every second arcade vendor sells them. I can buy the boards locally from several sources. There are probably 15 or 20 actual physical stores in my area that have the full machines available for sale right out in the open. You can buy them freely on very popular websites that take the rights of ip holders very seriously, and allow ip holders to shut down infringing sales on a moment's notice, yet they are still there because not even the ip holders care.

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[Titchgamer]

Indeed, original stuff wont last forever.
It will all corrode, die and wither away the same as us.
At some point original stuff will be that rare that only millionaires will be able to afford to buy an original cabinet or whatever.

Thats when this thing we all love becomes distant memories and eventually lost to the annals of time.

[ark_ader]

OK this sounds right, I complain, most of you then bash me for being right, then rationalize. 

60 in one boards is kind of contradictory to BYOAC.  Build your own right?  Not buy a cheap illegal Chinese product and then promote it for all its glory.  Where to get it, how much it costs etc it's bad enough that this hobby rips off copywriter items, we need to strip it of all ownership markings.  Seriously?

If I am wrong, please show me. Correct me.  You cannot. 

[Mike A]

Yer the best matey. Ye are the smartest and most righteous. All hail king Ark!

[ark_ader]

Yer the best matey. Ye are the smartest and most righteous. All hail king Ark!

Cheers matey I'll be addin' this to me signature...arrr(k).

[leapinlew]

Sorry Ark, it's just a dooshy thing to do. Besides, it was really just a basic electronics question.

Some people just aren't familiar with how everything works on forums. I remember this one guy tried to put a Stargate mame build in the restore forums!   

See, even good people do dumb things once in a while.

[ark_ader]

Sorry Ark, it's just a dooshy thing to do. Besides, it was really just a basic electronics question.

Some people just aren't familiar with how everything works on forums. I remember this one guy tried to put a Stargate mame build in the restore forums!   

See, even good people do dumb things once in a while.

Actually that cab has a Dreamcast and Willams Arcade's Greatest Hits, hooked up to my Xarcade.  So there.        Not a 60 in one!

But I am guilty of restoring a Stargate without a working mainboard.  Shame on me.   

See, even good people do dumb things once in a while.

Yeah like you did just there. 

Seriously it is not the roms I am bothered about.  My beef is the promotion of 60 in ones.

[paigeoliver]

60 in 1 is indeed crap, and the controls people install with them most of the time is even crappier, and then the display they hook it up to is usually the crappiest. However 90 percent of everything is crap. I won't even look at the Mame facebook pages anymore, it is just 10,000 guys patting each other's backs because they were able to screw together a bartop kit and copy and config file onto a raspberry pi.

Sorry Ark, it's just a dooshy thing to do. Besides, it was really just a basic electronics question.

Some people just aren't familiar with how everything works on forums. I remember this one guy tried to put a Stargate mame build in the restore forums!   

See, even good people do dumb things once in a while.

Actually that cab has a Dreamcast and Willams Arcade's Greatest Hits, hooked up to my Xarcade.  So there.        Not a 60 in one!

But I am guilty of restoring a Stargate without a working mainboard.  Shame on me.   

See, even good people do dumb things once in a while.

Yeah like you did just there. 

Seriously it is not the roms I am bothered about.  My beef is the promotion of 60 in ones.

[leapinlew]

Seriously it is not the roms I am bothered about.  My beef is the promotion of 60 in ones.

Pretty sure a board exploding simply by plugging it in doesn't count as a promotion.

[leapinlew]

60 in 1 is indeed crap, and the controls people install with them most of the time is even crappier, and then the display they hook it up to is usually the crappiest. However 90 percent of everything is crap. I won't even look at the Mame facebook pages anymore, it is just 10,000 guys patting each other's backs because they were able to screw together a bartop kit and copy and config file onto a raspberry pi.

Amen to that.

I've been debating building a quality bartop using all the supplies that are readily at hand nowadays for the hell of it. I bet I could build it in a weekend for around $300. My question now is, who wants an arcade game that doesn't have one?

[ark_ader]

Seriously it is not the roms I am bothered about.  My beef is the promotion of 60 in ones.

Pretty sure a board exploding simply by plugging it in doesn't count as a promotion.

Yes I saw all the shrapnel on the box it came in.  In a large glorious image.  Terrible, just terrible.

[Titchgamer]

Its hardly promotion asking for help with a ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- board is it?
If anything its a off put I would say....

[CheffoJeffo]

Actually, I  don't really disagree with him. If we're not allowed to tell people where to buy them, why should we "support" them?

Same reason we support people who are using unlicensed ROMS. Because they are us.

[yotsuya]

Actually, I  don't really disagree with him. If we're not allowed to tell people where to buy them, why should we "support" them?

Same reason we support people who are using unlicensed ROMS. Because they are us.

To be fair, I'm not as adamant about it as Ark seems to be. I don't care one way or the other, I just think it's interesting that the attitudes on them have shifted so much. Again, when I started here, you couldn't even talk about the damn things. Now we're telling people what dip switches to use.

[CheffoJeffo]

There was a time when the MAMEDevs were very vocal about their opposition and that was reflected and magnified here. I think I may even have been in opposition at one point, although for the most part my position was that I'd like to be able to kick a couple of bucks to MAMEDev every time I bought a board that was based on MAME.

I guess they take it don't take it as personally any more. That's fine. Ark takes it personally enough for all of us.

[wp34]

There was a time when the MAMEDevs were very vocal about their opposition and that was reflected and magnified here. I think I may even have been in opposition at one point, although for the most part my position was that I'd like to be able to kick a couple of bucks to MAMEDev every time I bought a board that was based on MAME.

I guess they take it don't take it as personally any more. That's fine. Ark takes it personally enough for all of us.

Those were the days.  People on the forum used to go bananas anytime there was a listing for ROM's on eBay.  There were a couple of threads were people ganged up and reported the listing and then congratulated themselves as if they stopped a sex trafficker.    I get where Ark is coming from even if I don't agree with him. 

[ark_ader]

Well maybe I should explain myself first on reflection of past posts.  I work in the software support industry and have seen first hand how piracy can affect a software house, and subsequent financial impacts.  Old out of date software does not really fit here but a product that strips brand ownership is really bad.  If 60 in one boards left copywriter information, I would not be as vocal.

[Mike A]

Fair enough. Try to work on your delivery. You really dropped the hammer on the OP.

[Haloman800]

OP back again, here's some high quality photos of the board:
http://imgur.com/a/Pk2Rt
I can't see any damage to the board. I also plugged it back in and couldn't "smell" anything.
Do you think there's a chance it's a harness or power supply problem?

[pbj]

Test the voltages coming out of your power supply..... Or just use another power supply.

[paigeoliver]

Is something blown up at L1? Right between the 2 main groups of caps.

[Titchgamer]

Test the voltages coming out of your power supply..... Or just use another power supply.

Prob a good place to start if you aint already op.

Cant see anything obv but that IC near the dipswitches looks little discoloured but may be the pic.

[Haloman800]

I don't have a meter.. I'll get one if needed.

The bottom left cap seems crooked/detached from the board, could that be it?


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[Haloman800]

I have a cocktail machine with a 60 in 1 powered through the jamma harness, would plugging this board up to it be risky?

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[paigeoliver]

I have a cocktail machine with a 60 in 1 powered through the jamma harness, would plugging this board up to it be risky?

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No it would not be risky.

[pbj]

This thread has gotten painful to read.

 

[Haloman800]

Using my cabinet, the board came on (solid green light and blinking orange) but the crt monitor shows a bunch of white dashes across the screen, and nothing else happens. What does this mean?

[ark_ader]

This thread has gotten painful to read.

 

Then do us a favor and quit posting/reading.


See what I did there?   

[gdonovan]

Using my cabinet, the board came on (solid green light and blinking orange) but the crt monitor shows a bunch of white dashes across the screen, and nothing else happens. What does this mean?

I bet a minor monitor adjustment or two and you would have a picture.

[Haloman800]

Using my cabinet, the board came on (solid green light and blinking orange) but the crt monitor shows a bunch of white dashes across the screen, and nothing else happens. What does this mean?

I bet a minor monitor adjustment or two and you would have a picture.

I had another 60 in 1, when it's in this cabinet, the monitor comes on fine, I don't think it's a monitor issue.

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