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Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« on: May 31, 2015, 09:55:02 pm »
For me, it's MKII. I feel that the characters are very evenly matched with basic moves, and the specials aren't overly one-sided but rather offer different playstyles. Sure, Jax's roundhouse will knock anything out of the air, and shang tsung's straight up jump kick will do the same but I don't think there's a bad character in the whole bunch.

Mortal Kombat (the first) has the best story (next to whatever that one was a few years back? MK9?) and it is really playable.

MK3/UMK3 has some characters in there for filler. Sheeva... who is good with sheeva? Kabal was really a killer with the near-unstoppable running whirlwind move, and cyber Smoke (my favourite, I hate to say) is the cheapest character EVER. If you jump, be prepared to receive a 35% damage combo minimum!

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2015, 10:02:17 pm »
MKII and MK9 are my favorite.

I remember my dad pulled me outta Jr. High early one day cause he bought the game when it came out. Me and My brothers were all stoked about it. Its crazy to see the time difference when trying to do  fatalities from then to now.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 01:59:57 am »
MKII is the best one. It was the creative high point; it has the best aesthetics, audio design, and characters. The others are all expendable.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 03:30:40 am »
MKII just because of nostalgia

---gosh-darn--- I remember having a blast as a little kid playing that game..

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 07:57:42 am »
my dream is to own a umk3 cabinet. but i do like mk2 in a close 2nd
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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 08:12:59 am »
MK4














jk, it was easily the worst of the bunch.  I have a soft spot for MKII, it was the first dedicated arcade cab I ever bought (and I still own it!) I didnt like MK3 so much when it was in the arcade, but owning the cab for a second time.......its grown on me. I started to not like MK when it moved to the consoles (xbox/PS2) and out of the arcades, but the last 2 games have been markedly better.
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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 10:29:01 pm »
I liked MKII and I guess I'm the only one who liked MKIII.

What I didn't like was the no throw rules when playing people in the arcade. Was that a rule where you guys were? From what I understand, it's origins is from when an earlier version of MKI allows Sub Zero to throw, freeze, throw, freeze, etc. over and over until you died.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2015, 10:41:27 pm »
I love mk3! It just wasn't as balanced as the first 2. I hated the no throw rule. Not that I was a throwaholic, but it was a useful tool.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2015, 04:16:54 pm »
I love mk3! It just wasn't as balanced as the first 2. I hated the no throw rule. Not that I was a throwaholic, but it was a useful tool.

Yup. Lots of ducking and blocking.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2015, 04:30:07 pm »
Depends on if we are talking about a PvP match or against the computer.  MK2 against the computer was ridiculous.  There's a reason there is an AI algorithm called a "MK Walker".  You couldn't actually play against the computer, you were literally forced to use the same pattern over and over again or else the computer would simply walk you into the corner, perfectly blocking every move with perfect timing, and destroy you.

MK3's biggest problem in my mind was Motaro - nothing like a game breaking sub-boss that could bounce you with an attack and then teleport to the other side and literally volleyball you back and forth without you ever touching the ground.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2015, 05:45:34 pm »
I wasn't much into fighters beyond playing a ton of Super Street Fighter on the SNES.  Is there a Star Wars/Star Trek thing between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter?  Meaning most people love one or the other?

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2015, 06:08:08 pm »
Is there a Star Wars/Star Trek thing between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter?  Meaning most people love one or the other?

Not that I've noticed.  I mean, folks tend to have a favorite that they play more of, but I don't think I've ever seen much more than smack talk...  Would LOVE to see a proper cross over though!  Chun Li v Sonia would rock.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2015, 06:33:40 pm »
I'm excellent at both. Funny story, I made a friend through a friend, and he casually remarked how he could mop the floor with me at street fighter after I made a comment about how Ken hits repeatedly with his moves but Ryu knocks them over with the first hit. He challenged me to a throwdown and I was legit worried I would lose.


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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2015, 10:52:07 pm »
Mkii is my favorite. Though I have never beaten it. It's just not possible. To me 2&3 are just unbeatable.
But I loved all the fatalities and moves in 2 the best.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2015, 10:33:43 am »
You know, I can admit it's a fairly lousy game these days, but MK1 for me.  MK2 was a phenomenon that probably revived arcades for another year when it came out but when I play it now I start to see the inroads to "silly" that ruined the third one for me.  The nerd boner that erupted after being able to ACTUALLY KILL your opponent after you defeated him in MK1 in front of his girlfriend cannot be fully described.  MK3 was just a matter of who could pound out the combo button sequence the fastest.  I was never particularly good at it and disliked it from day 1. 

MK2 is the only one in the series that's ever been mentioned by guests.

Never had a "no throw" rule but I remember MK1 matches being over as soon as someone chose Sub-Zero.  He had a freeze-uppercut-jumpkick-slide combo that could be done over and over.





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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2015, 12:37:56 pm »
Is there a Star Wars/Star Trek thing between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter?  Meaning most people love one or the other?

Not that I've noticed.  I mean, folks tend to have a favorite that they play more of, but I don't think I've ever seen much more than smack talk...  Would LOVE to see a proper cross over though!  Chun Li v Sonia would rock.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2015, 08:45:24 am »
which was the one where you could uppercut people into other levels, wasn't that 3 ? That was my favourite one, mainly just for that and the fact that it had all the characters I liked from the past, also. There were too many crappy/cheap characters in it, though, but me and my friends never used them so it was okay. I wish they'd put the whole "knocking people into another stage" business into the latest iterations.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2015, 01:15:02 pm »
MKII -> MKX -> MK4 are the best ones to me.
But my son love MK3 the most

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2015, 01:30:22 pm »
My favorite Mortal Kombat is whatever Malenko is refurbing.
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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2015, 01:44:57 pm »
For nostalgia's sake,  it didn't get any better than hearing about that new game "Mortal Kombat" and that you can rip peoples heads off and there was blood everywhere and then going somewhere and seeing it live and in person the first time.  It was just jaw dropping and awesome.  Anyone else have this experience?

For that, I will say MK1 but MK2 seemed like it just did everything right.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2015, 02:06:44 pm »
I think for the most part, MK3 hit on most cylinders right. If it weren't for the fact they dumped scorpion and made a strong theme departure, I have a hunch it would have been better received at the time. I grew up on the SNES versions, and I think the faster pace, smoother animations and nice bonus features made it my goto game above MK2. I forgot the code, but I remember there was a 4 character elimination mode and a tournament mode that made PvP fights excellent on MK3.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2015, 10:13:51 am »
The original is my favorite. Played it when it came out there was always a line at the machine.  Played a lot of mk2 also it is very good also.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2015, 04:56:16 pm »
UMK III  Probably.


  MK1 - Was one of my favs, partly because of the photographic realism.  The large characters.  The ancient Asian atmosphere.  The resemblance to "Big Trouble In Little China"...

 MK II - Visually was a big turn off.    I expected that this version was going to have even higher resolution photographic captures.   Instead, it went the route of Cartoon Coloring... and the characters looked like plastic dolls.   The shading was quite poor... very "Flat"

 MK3 / UMK III - At first, I was timid to play the thing due to the new combo system.   However, after learning some of them... it was quite fun an addicting.  The run button helped with the stagnant predictability.. as well as increased the adrenalin rush factor.  The speed of the Kombat was far more fun, and more realistic to real fighting.   While the game may have poor balance... I never was good enough to know the difference.   I think the run button and speed of the thing helped even things out for the avg. joe kind of player... (rather than the hardcore ADD memorizers)

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2015, 05:36:36 pm »
Visual breakdown of Scorpion versions:

 Contrast:  First, notice the highlight on the elbow and bicep of MK1 Scorp.  This shows strong contrast, and is indicative of sunlight or other strong sources of light.  Compare this to the others.. and see how much more lighter and "Flatter" they are.

 Contrast really helps to make a character Pop out.    Similarly, look at the underside of his raised elbow in MK1... and see how much more darker it is.. in comparison to the others.   This again, shows excellent use of contrast.   There isnt even any shading on the elbow of MK2s scorp.

 Shading:   Besides the better contrast...  there is very bad shading period.. on MK2 version and beyond.   You can see in MK1,  that Scorps shins are much darker than his upper uniform. Thats because they are more in the shade.  A lot of light is being blocked from his own body being in the way.   

 In MK2... his shin guards are the same color all the way through..  in fact... they are almost Brighter than his uniform (due to the checker pattern on the uniform).

 Even when MK2 bends his knees.. theres almost no change in the shading of the shins. Same for the side to side motion of his uniform.

 Look at the shading on the Heads and masks as well.   Theres almost no shading at all on the MK2  compared to the MK1  version.  No highlights.  No details.  Very flat.

 
 MK3 Scorp:

 In this version, he appears far darker.  This makes more sense in many ways... as there is a lot of dark areas in the game  (thought, I would personally use different sprite sets for that)   But... the shading is still quite weak.  Very flat.  Pretty much no highlights at all either.


 Character Shape:

 Notice the bulk of Scorpion MK1.  Hes a Thick beast of a fighter.  Seems far more menacing and realistic to the way he fights in that game.  Even so, one could say that his uniform is a little baggy.  And rightly so... as uniforms are designed to be baggy.. in order to allow more flexibilty for kicks and other long movements... without any binding.

 On The latter versions... he looks like a much smaller guy, with very thin legs... and or very tight pants.  In fact, his pants dont even seem to move, when he moves.

 Animation:

 Well, i have to say that I really prefer the original side to side, circular twisting animation here.. over the other strange variants.   MK2 seems to omit the side to side.. just lightly bobbing.. and his open hand... is a big no-no in real fighting.   MK3 has changes him to a back and forth movement... which is more like Tae Kwan Do... and maybe a bit more realistic to how many people play...  However...  the way its animated seems really wrong.  Almost as if some computer model was hand-animated... and it just looks so artificial.


 Visual Quality just went from downhill ... each progressive generation.


 

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2015, 07:38:34 pm »
You do realize that this was not animation but digitized actors, right?

and his open hand... is a big no-no in real fighting.

According to the game, scorpion's style is heavily based on Hapkido, which commonly practices an open hand stance.


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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2015, 09:00:40 pm »
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You do realize that this was not animation but digitized actors, right?

 At least two of the games used digitized actors on the majority of the work.    I tend to think that the 2nd set of people were not as martially skilled.   Maybe directed to move certain ways..  and hired mostly for mere look.


 Edit:  Sorry.. I meant "Spread Open Hand" :   Yes, its Open hand... but the thumb is supposed to be tucked next to the hand.

  When your thumb or fingers are spread apart... they can easily get jammed, wrenched, or grasped...  etc.

 When placing the fingers & thumb together... it gives each of them additional strength and support.


 Im quite familiar with all the major arts out there.  Used to spar them often, full contact.   

 I speak about the finger / thumb thing from a lot of hardcore experience.   Id gotten at least 2 fingers jammed at different bouts, and had my thumb wrenched at least once.  As well as had a guy who knew Chi-Na (Chinese grappling) grasp my digits as well.   I learned quickly, the importance of keeping the digits solidly together.
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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2015, 12:08:11 am »
 :dunno Pretty much the same cast acted for both MK1 and MK2. The guy who played scorpion is a Chinese martial arts master. It's funny you mention the MK3 scorpion looks scrawnier, because they switched to a bodybuilder to play scorpion in UMK3.

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Pesina

Eh, like whatever art you like. I'm not trying to argue, just think it is funny you are jumping on the MKII actor to being inferior to the MK1 actor, and the UMK3 actor being scrawnier. I guess perception is a powerful thing.  8)


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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2015, 02:30:17 am »
Also totally off topic. Unless because the shading isn't as good on MKII as it is on MK1, and that ruins the game for you.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2015, 05:12:13 pm »
I remember seeing MK1 at first and thinking.  Meh, another Pit Fighter.  So I never really played it.  Then When MKII came out I was instantly attracted to it due to the awesome soundtrack and sounds.  (I actually still have the MKII special CD that you can order from the arcade game on the attract mode).

After playing MKII, when MAME came out I went back to play MKI.  MKIII I had played in the arcades.

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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2015, 05:43:13 pm »
Also totally off topic. Unless because the shading isn't as good on MKII as it is on MK1, and that ruins the game for you.

Teleporting, "spearing" people, throwing iceballs, throwing fireballs,shadow kicks, cannonballing, throwing electric knives, shooting rings out of your fists, shooting lightning from your hands, ripping off someones head with the spine attached, pulling out someones heart, uppercutting someones head off, removing your mask to reveal a skull that breaths fire, blowing a kiss that burns away all of your opponents flesh leaving only their skeleton behind.......these are all acceptable martial arts moves. Not tucking your thumb in next to your hand? UNHEARD OF! SO FAKE!
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Re: Which is your favourite Mortal Kombat?
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2015, 07:42:29 pm »
Also totally off topic. Unless because the shading isn't as good on MKII as it is on MK1, and that ruins the game for you.

 Everyone has different values on things..  and everyone experiences things to different degrees depending on how keen their senses.  (for example, if your partially color blind... experiences will be different.   Similarly... the sounds you hear may be different than what I hear... depending on the shape of your ears, and their sensitivities)

 For me, visually, it was a huge turn off... and so I really didnt play it much.

 MK1 wasnt very good / deep..  but the look, and atmosphere drew you in.   It also had a far different attitude,  than cartoon fighters.


 MK III  at lease had a greater depth of gameplay.   And it helped to nullify one of the major faults of the first two games:

 - Easy distance reading due to very dreadfully Slow & predictable character walking
 

 Im not saying I hate MK II... it just was mediocre to me.