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Jungle Fever-First Build
« on: May 07, 2014, 05:58:36 am »
Well here we go!!!  I am excited to begin of my first project ever, “Jungle Fever”.  I had the idea to build an arcade cab about 8 months ago.  At the time I knew nothing of this community or even Mame.  That feels like ages ago!  Fast forward to now and I am ready to get started.

A little background.  I currently live in the jungle outside of Pekanbaru, Indonesia.  (This is where the jungle theme comes from)  I went back to the States at Christmas to visit family and that is when I acquired most of the parts.  My mom came on a visit in March and brought me some more.  It’s always funny trying to explain to Indonesia customs what I plan to do with a suitcase full of joysticks and buttons! 

So here is what I have planned:

*A natural look cab simmular to the famous “Woody”
* 2 player with 7 buttons each and a trackball
*Rotating Monitor
* LED lit buttons and Servo Sticks
*Going with Mala for my F.E.
*Will be Mame/Golden Tee Complete (2006) (Will now be using this for a second project)

So for the sake of my relationship with my wife and the fact that labor is VERY cheap where I live, I decided to contract out the building of the shell of the cab.  I took a Sketchup drawing I found from “EvilNuff” and changed it to fit my needs.

Here is what I gave the furniture maker....

   

And Here is what I got in return....



And Stained....





Thank You List: (I will expand as I go):   :notworthy:
1.All the innovators before that made this hobby possible for us who are less talented.
2.Mike Boss for your awesome work on my Mala layout!
3.Andy with Ultimarc for helping me get my Pac 64 back on track.
4. ChanceKJ for this: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135459.0.html

And here we go!  :applaud:
« Last Edit: June 01, 2014, 10:55:07 pm by wirenut »

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2014, 07:43:48 am »
Dude, awesome, Indonesia cab FTW!  BTW, this totally goes with the "Yellow Fever" cab, now we just need some other double entendre cab to round out the trifecta!  Can't wait to see it come together. 

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 07:21:22 pm »
Hard to believe that just months ago you had no info on MAME, this forum, etc................now you have a cabinet.
I know it can be daunting...but your off to one heck of a start.
Cant wait to see how it all turns out.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 10:33:52 pm »
Dude, awesome, Indonesia cab FTW!  BTW, this totally goes with the "Yellow Fever" cab, now we just need some other double entendre cab to round out the trifecta!  Can't wait to see it come together.

my ears are burning.....

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 11:35:26 pm »
Dude, awesome, Indonesia cab FTW!  BTW, this totally goes with the "Yellow Fever" cab, now we just need some other double entendre cab to round out the trifecta!  Can't wait to see it come together.

my ears are burning.....

That's the sound of Flynn's Arcade gently weeping in the corner...
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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 11:38:56 pm »
No, my ears are really burning! I wanted to see inside so I lit a Q-Tip.

 ;D

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2014, 12:34:13 am »
Thanks for the encouragement! 

Ok I've found my first newbie mistake....  The Marquee header is too shallow I think.  I just cut the back plate for the LEDs and I realized that there will not be enough room for the speakers unless I push the lights within about 2" of the Marquee.  My idea was to just drill a pattern of hole and mount the speakers on top so you would not see them.

I'm using Ultimarc LED strips:



And this is all the room that I have:



Any ideas???

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 12:57:30 am »
While I was thinking about the Marquee, I decided to do some prep on the buttons.  No scratching my head on this one since ChanceKJ posted a sweet how-to already.. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135459.0.html







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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2014, 01:05:11 am »
Screw speaker grills.

Not even kidding. Use a couple of these...

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10975

I'm using one in my Yellow Fever built (link in my sig)  check out halfway down page 3.
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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2014, 01:27:34 am »
Screw speaker grills.

Not even kidding. Use a couple of these...

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10975

I'm using one in my Yellow Fever built (link in my sig)  check out halfway down page 3.

This is a sweet idea!  How loud do they get?  Could I get stereo sound out of them?  My biggest issue is getting them.  Most everything I get people mule into me when they are visiting.  There is a town nearby, but I just have to work with what I can find.

I do want this thing to rock.  I live on a camp and this will be the center of many parties!

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2014, 01:54:21 am »
Depends,
 
I mean, if you plan on using your cab as the sound system for a rave you might want to build in additional, switchable audio.  The video in my thread is using one transducer in place of a 4ohm 3watt speaker, on an "IKEA" like particle board desk i bought 15+ years ago from Staples, and producing some 8-bit game sounds. You'd be installing them into a solid hardwood surface. You'd want 2-4 of them if you were to use these cheaper Sparkfun ones. Milage may vary. If you really want to go this route look for a higher end version.

I just did a test with the one i have on my desk and cranked up some Bobby Darin (not kidding).  It's not great, but its also one channel, on that desk, through a $99 TV... It was "ok".

You could still cut a few slits in the wood and mount some small rectangular drivers in there...
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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2014, 02:17:05 am »
Depends,
 
I mean, if you plan on using your cab as the sound system for a rave you might want to build in additional, switchable audio.  The video in my thread is using one transducer in place of a 4ohm 3watt speaker, on an "IKEA" like particle board desk i bought 15+ years ago from Staples, and producing some 8-bit game sounds. You'd be installing them into a solid hardwood surface. You'd want 2-4 of them if you were to use these cheaper Sparkfun ones. Milage may vary. If you really want to go this route look for a higher end version.

I just did a test with the one i have on my desk and cranked up some Bobby Darin (not kidding).  It's not great, but its also one channel, on that desk, through a $99 TV... It was "ok".

You could still cut a few slits in the wood and mount some small rectangular drivers in there...

Ok I'm going to look into this further.  Most likely for now, I'll have to go another route since it would take me so long to get them to even try them.  I'll be back in the states in July so I think I'll pick some up for a tabletop idea that I have....

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2014, 02:25:12 am »
there are a few other companies that make some higher end versions. One company out of the UK, Feonic Technology Ltd for example.  http://www.feonic.com


(everyone reading this thread is like "Oh, here Chance goes again about the bloody transducers, he's gonna lead someone astray with these silly things...") 

/looks at Scott...


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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2014, 03:11:13 am »
there are a few other companies that make some higher end versions. One company out of the UK, Feonic Technology Ltd for example.  http://www.feonic.com


(everyone reading this thread is like "Oh, here Chance goes again about the bloody transducers, he's gonna lead someone astray with these silly things...") 

/looks at Scott...

I actually am really digging this.  I think it would be sick in a Cocktail or Pinball build.  I am going to see if I can find something nice that is semi-feasible.


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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2014, 04:00:41 am »
Ah yes SolidDrive. I'm 99% sure they were the booth i was drooling over at CES in 2008....




CES Solid Drive Speakers by levelbest, on Flickr


...looks like they were!  Yeah those were DOPE!

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 05:45:35 am »
Question.....

Should I use DVI or VGA for the Mame hook up? (Or even HDMI?)   I was thinking it might be cool to buy one of those VGA scan line generators but I also might be playing some newer games at some point. Like the Mini SLG...





 The Golden Tee board will have to run through one of these bad boys....



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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 08:03:40 am »
In all of my cabinets I use LCD monitors.
Cost, simplicty, readily available, all of which make them a go to.
With the exception of one cabinet where I have a 21" CRT PC monitor.
I also LOVE the scanline generators. I've used the T-SLG and the MINI-SLG sold here on BYOAC.
I like them both, but I say the MINI-SLG from Craftymech is the way to go.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 09:13:25 am »
I was thinking it might be cool to buy one of those VGA scan line generators but I also might be playing some newer games at some point. Like the Mini SLG...

Craftymech's SLG is a great product and if you're worried about newer games just run them at a resolution not supported by the SLG and the signal will pass through without getting adjusted - it really can be a no switch no issue implementation. 

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 10:49:22 am »
+1 on the SLG Mini. Mines awesome,  I'm gonna use his SLG's on all my projects that I can.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 11:12:14 am »
I just did a test with the one i have on my desk and cranked up some Bobby Darin (not kidding).

 :cheers:
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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2014, 05:02:32 pm »
/looks at Scott...
What??  :embarassed:

Do I have something stuck between my teeth?  :lol


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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2014, 07:19:05 pm »
 ??? Cyborg Call centers have teeth?  Or for that matter need to eat?

I was just assuming you'd weigh in on the transducer idea.

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2014, 07:52:54 pm »
??? Cyborg Call centers have teeth?  Or for that matter need to eat?

I was just assuming you'd weigh in on the transducer idea.
:P   :lol

I try to let those with hands-on experience speak when my knowledge/experience on the subject is purely theoretical.   ;D


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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2014, 08:09:41 pm »
Huh,

Well, I'll be damned. You may be human after all.


...or Skynet posing as a human.  ???

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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2014, 08:27:59 pm »
Cab looks amazing. Looks like you can fit some 4" round car speakers if they are easy for you to obtain.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2014, 10:47:15 pm »
Cab looks amazing. Looks like you can fit some 4" round car speakers if they are easy for you to obtain.

Hey man thanks!  I can get my hands on the speakers no problem. (They like their car stereos over here!)  My biggest question is how close can I mount the LED to the Marquee.  I know it depends on a lot so next week I'm going to get it printed and just see what it looks like.

Today I am working on the monitor.  I have a 22" LG that i found in town that I'm going to throw in.  I'm trying to have it rotating today but, I'm spending more time than I thought I would have to leveling the damn thing.


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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2014, 10:58:02 pm »
If you have something to diffuse the light you can pretty much put it right up to the marquee.  Think about how the LCD display that you're probably reading this off of right now works...

Backlight|Diffuser|Translucent LCD.
 

Contain the marque space with a panel about an inch in. Cover the whole inside with reflective aluminum tape, mount the LEDs, use a layer of opaque plastic, mount the art to the plastic.  Done

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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2014, 11:20:06 pm »
If you have something to diffuse the light you can pretty much put it right up to the marquee.  Think about how the LCD display that you're probably reading this off of right now works...

Backlight|Diffuser|Translucent LCD.
 

Contain the marque space with a panel about an inch in. Cover the whole inside with reflective aluminum tape, mount the LEDs, use a layer of opaque plastic, mount the art to the plastic.  Done

Sweet!  That is the answer I was looking for.  I'll give it a go and report back.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2014, 05:14:39 am »
Looking good,  :applaud: definitely on my watch list
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2014, 08:43:53 am »
Looking good,  :applaud: definitely on my watch list

Thanks!  Right back at you! 

Today was rather productive considering the fact that I downed 4 martinis last night.   :cheers:

Got the monitor leveled, lazy Susan attached and motor mounted.



And got it all mounted to the back plate and the adjustment slides cut for the limit switches.



Hopefully tomorrow my wife will give me time to set the switches and try it out!

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2014, 10:14:08 am »
Dude, awesome, Indonesia cab FTW!  BTW, this totally goes with the "Yellow Fever" cab, now we just need some other double entendre cab to round out the trifecta!  Can't wait to see it come together.

Bonnie's Pink Box, Hung Donkey......



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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2014, 01:46:13 am »
Nice build! Love the finish! :) Keep up the good work! I am also thinking of getting the mini SLG too... I've heard nothing but good things.
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2014, 02:06:19 am »
I am also thinking of getting the mini SLG too... I've heard nothing but good things.

Yeah I'm pretty pumped about the Mini SLG.  I won't be able to get mine until I'm back in the states in July but it will be fun to plug it in when I get it!

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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2014, 02:10:37 am »

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cab looks good man, that stain turned out great!

Thanks man!  Encouragement from a true veteran is nice!  :notworthy:

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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2014, 02:33:31 am »
Nice build so far. Any more details on the art? Your marquee (is it a marquee?) makes me curious  ;D

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2014, 02:45:30 am »
Nice build so far. Any more details on the art? Your marquee (is it a marquee?) makes me curious  ;D

Thanks!

The art is going to be minimal.  I'm going for a more furniture like approach on this one.  My sig below is what I'm using for my Marquee.  Mike Boss put it together for me along with my Mala layouts.

I am thinking of having some wood carvings put together for the side and maybe the control panel but that will take a couple of months to pull off.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2014, 09:33:58 pm »
Super cool project.
Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.
I gotta say...........for someone new to the hobby this is a super advanced cabinet.
LED buttons, rotating monitor........................nice !

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2014, 09:49:36 pm »
Super cool project.
Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.
I gotta say...........for someone new to the hobby this is a super advanced cabinet.
LED buttons, rotating monitor........................nice !

Thanks Mike!  Yeah I might have got in over my head.....We will see!   :dizzy:

Taking today off for Mothers Day.  Should have the monitor installed and rotating tomorrow.

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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2014, 03:30:13 am »
Quick update....

Chest deep into this thing now.  :dizzy:  Got the monitor rotating with MaLa.  Pretty straight forward after I read this post.  http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=112254.0    :notworthy:

For future builders I'll lay it out.  I created this .bat file and named it monitor.bat and put it on my desktop.
Code: [Select]
If "%1"=="1" goto rotateh
If "%1"=="2" goto rotatev
goto end

:rotateh
smccmd --resume --speed -3000
goto end

:rotatev
smccmd --resume --speed 3000
:end

(This is for use with a Pololu simple motor controller.  Set up the controller and limits as the Pololu docs say before messing with the .bat file)

Then I put "startcom" in the MaLa plugins folder and set it up this way....



And done!  Now here is my "Hey look at me, I made a monitor rotate" video....




Now off to build a test control panel.  See you soon!


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Re: Jungle Fever-First Build
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2014, 04:04:44 am »
Now all you need to rotate is that camera when you film something  >:D

Good job with the monitor. you made that look a bit more easy then it probably is.  :D