M.A.M.E.-ing a SEGA Hang-on cabinet to play Motocycle- and Jet Ski-games

[synonym9]

Guys, I have a very attractive offer for a SEGA Hang-On (first gen) sitdown-cabinet

looks like that:

http://www.eldoradogames.com/Graphics/Arcades/ho_r.jpg

For my understanding it got 3 pot-controls:

Steering
Breaking
Acceleration

How would I hack the controls for the use with PC-emulators?

Beside that, is there a chance to get reproduction artwork for that cabient and-
please state any Coin-Op game you remember I could play with handlebars....

So far I have

SEGA A.B-Cop
SEGA Hang-On
SEGA Super Hang-On
Cyber Cycles
SEGA Wave Runner
Riding Hero
Racing Hero
GP Rider
Cool Riders
ManxTT Super Bike
Power Drift
Harley Davidson
Super Bike II (is there a Super Bike I too?)
Dead Heat Riders
Soul of Racer?

And the last question....seems like Super Hang On got something like a force feedback in form of vibra-motor. Does the first Hang-On have it too and is there any chance to activate it in the emulated version?

[baritonomarchetto]

You can easily hack a joypad and replace the potentiometers on the cabinet. Google is your friend.

Remember: keep the machine as original as possible so in the future you will be able to convert back the machine to the factory setup 

Not sure if the Hang on sitdown version has a vibrator motor (you can check the manual of the cab), but i have seen it deactivated all the times in SHO because the effect becames annoying after a while and stresses the control panel components (at least in the upright version)

[BadMouth]

Like you're other post, quite a few of the games you mentioned aren't playable in any emulator.
You really need to install all the emulators and play the games to see how well they work before deciding if it's worth it.

Not sure whether it had a vibration motor.  I'm sure you could add one, but I don't know if the output is hooked up in MAME.
If it is hooked up, it is possible to activate it using MAMEHooker.  I haven't delved into it yet, but I believe it makes a sound if it senses an output when you run the game.  Download it and follow the instructions.

Controls could interface via a hacked gamepad, Apac, or U-HID.
The U-HID can also be used for outputs.  It should work, but I'm not sure if it's been tested with MAMEHooker.

[synonym9]

Would the U-Hid work with the original pots or....?

I have bought a Microsoft Sidewinder game-pad for such a job. But from what I know it only got 2 pots while I expect the Hang-On to have three.

Of course I let the Cab totally original. The PCB will stay inside as well as the wiring harness.

My plan is to have a totally stock looking and playing Hang-On, just with the option of other Cycle Games as there are plenty of.

[BadMouth]

Would the U-Hid work with the original pots or....?

yeah, U-HID will work with the original pots.
IIRC Hang-On had the brake and throttle wired together as one axis, so that might need to be undone to separate them.
Sega Model 2 emulator (ManxTT, MotorRaid) requires throttle and brake to be separate.

[synonym9]

Thanks BadMouth for the hint 

How is that with 2 functions on one axis to understand?
Is it a pot that is centered and sends the signal for acceleration if turned in one direction and for breaking if turned in the opposite direction?

I am just on the site of the U-Hid to get some enlightment....hope I understand it.....

[synonym9]

Would the U-Hid work with the original pots or....?

IIRC Hang-On had the brake and throttle wired together as one axis, so that might need to be undone to separate them.

I still dont understand what that means....please explain.
I won the cabinet and pick it tomorrow....so all advices are valueable

[BadMouth]

Would the U-Hid work with the original pots or....?

IIRC Hang-On had the brake and throttle wired together as one axis, so that might need to be undone to separate them.

I still dont understand what that means....please explain.
I won the cabinet and pick it tomorrow....so all advices are valueable

Well, I'm not sure if it was or not.  Just thought I remembered a comment about it being that way.
Check the manual.

I haven't done it.
It's either this:

(jacked from this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,12551.0.html )
or this:


M2 emulator requires separate axis (it's about the only thing that does).

[synonym9]

I understand it now.
Maybe I dont a clue about that but for my understanding it is not a big problem. When I dont use the stock-harness (which I wouldŽnt if I go with the U-HID) I would have seperated axis, right?

I wire every pot seperately in the U-HID and I shouldŽnt have a problem.

I already have the cabinet at home and started to dismantle it, would be nice if you join in that thread too:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135594.0.html

Ps: I just checked it, its like you said, even 2 of the 3 cables go through both pots.

I rather see the problem when I comes to emulate Hang-On because of the that system and the fact that its not like that with the U-HID.....but maybe I am wrong on that...

[Howard_Casto]

I should really start paying attention to this threads.  As I mentioned in the other one this is not the sit-down model, it is the upright model.

I'm not being picky it's just a few years from now somebody is going to be searching the forums to get info on the sit-down, run across this, and be disappointed.

[synonym9]

I should really start paying attention to this threads.  As I mentioned in the other one this is not the sit-down model, it is the upright model.

I'm not being picky it's just a few years from now somebody is going to be searching the forums to get info on the sit-down, run across this, and be disappointed.

Its in fact the sit-down model, you most probably misstake with the "ride-on-model"

Upright:

i.ebayimg.com/t/HANG-ON-Upright-Arcade-Game-by-SEGA-6-GRAND-PRIX-STYLE-MOTORCYCLE-EXCITEMENT-/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/j5QAAOxy9nhSI2br/$T2eC16ZHJHMFH!sLncrNBSI2brBV5Q~~60_35.JPG

As well as:

www.pinball.ro/dedicated/Hang-On.gif

Sitdown:

www.arcade-history.com/images/cabinetmini160/1080.jpg

You may think its just an upright with a bench, the truth is that it is around 8" lower than the previous one.

Ride-on:

api.ning.com/files/m6jiMtnuKBfLCEk25NOcyxe0iJ0lW47p3UN*WCSplYXfgfSxpFm5*JIvcqgCTwB2gcxZUdgKFwMMN-xZ4WBls5M187j*CYFR/hangon2.jpg

And everything else are Super Hang-On Versions.

[Howard_Casto]

That's the bench seat model.  There was no way of knowing because you removed the bench. 

Sorry about that. 

[Fursphere]

I was going to ask what the difference between the bench seat and upright models were - but it appears to be just that (and a decal package maybe?)

[synonym9]

That's the bench seat model.  There was no way of knowing because you removed the bench. 

Sorry about that.

I did not remove the bench, it just was like that.
I would give an arm and a leg for an original bench.
But will end up welding my own one someday.