Ok After 10 years away from mame..what do I need now to play?

[Demon-Seed]

Hey Guys
Seriously..... It has been almost 10 years.... since I really got into mame!!! A wife and four kids do that I am planning a new build (finally!!) and noticed all kinds of late 90's games are now supported on mame! Games like NFL Blitz, Cruisin USA, Carnevil, Gauntlet Dark Legacy, Gauntlet Legends, Maximum Force, Area 51, House of the dead etc.......

I know HOD doesn't run, but other newer 3d games like blitz do? What kind of CPU, Ram and video does one need now for mame to play at full (or near full) speed? What size HD is required for complete install with CHD etc...?? I apologize if there is a link elsewhere to my answers.... maybe someone can direct me in the right direction? I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Jim

[CoryBee]

Blitz, lol

[chopperthedog]

If you are gonna have a full current mame chd and attract video set up, it ends up being about 350gb. On my i3 with 8gb of ram NFL Blitz plays great (there are some sound issues though, but nothing that hampers game play). Carnevil and other types run great with mame. HOD stuff can be run with m2 emulator.


good day.

[ark_ader]

Try finding the original board and play Blitz that way.  It would be cheaper in the long run.

[Malenko]

Try finding the original board and play Blitz that way.  It would be cheaper in the long run.

or a dreamcast.

[BadMouth]

3.5Ghz or more if you want to be sure Blitz and Gauntlet Legends will run.  A 64-Bit OS and MAME build make a big difference on those games.
In the DIP switch setting for Blitz, you can reduce the resolution which helps a lot if your processor falls short.

You could get by with 2.8-3Ghz for the rest of the games you mentioned depending on the generation of processor.

IIRC, the full CHD set for MAME was over 250GB, but less than 20GB of it was playable. 
Get the full set and then just copy over the games that work to your machine.
I have a 500GB drive in my cab that is limited to arcade and arcade style PC games.
2TB seems to be the standard for people who get into the disc based consoles and want video previews for everything.

There is a lot of new stuff out there that just might blow your mind if you've been away for 10 years. 

Check out Supermodel and Demul emulators for late 90's games.  They'll  require a good video card in addition to a fast processor.

There's also the Taito Type X games which have been hacked to run on a standard PC, no emulator needed.

Look all those up on youtube to get psyched up to spend money on a fast processor and spend hours configuring emulators. 

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Wow those emulators have come a long way! Why the blitz joke? I enjoyed it back in the day.....

If I can get a massive CPU I could always run blitz on Pso one emu. Does dcemu support pc light guns?

Um what os do u guys run now for ur cabs?

Cheers
Jim

[Fursphere]

IIRC, the full CHD set for MAME was over 250GB, but less than 20GB of it was playable. 

Yup.  200+ GBs of CRAP.   I downloaded the full CHD set just so I had the stupid thing..  "just incase"   

[Le Chuck]

Dodonpachi is all you need man. 

[paigeoliver]

What is it with Blitz? I don't ever remember even seeing anyone playing this in the arcade but now everyone wants to emulate it and have been buying high end PCs for years trying to do so. Just buy the whole game for $300 if that one title is that important.

[BadMouth]

Dodonpachi is all you need man.

What about DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm ?

I'm hooked on the NAOMI games Ikaruga and Border Down.
Can't wait until my cab is finished so I can actually try to make progress in them.

[Le Chuck]

Dodonpachi is all you need man.

What about DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm ?

I'm hooked on the NAOMI games Ikaruga and Border Down.
Can't wait until my cab is finished so I can actually try to make progress in them.

That one too.  And Donpachi.  Really need the whole trifecta, and the spin offs.  Well most of he cave games honestly.  A little ESPRade goes a long way. 

[ppv]

Dodonpachi is all you need man.

What about DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm ?

I'm hooked on the NAOMI games Ikaruga and Border Down.
Can't wait until my cab is finished so I can actually try to make progress in them.

That one too.  And Donpachi.  Really need the whole trifecta, and the spin offs.  Well most of he cave games honestly.  A little ESPRade goes a long way.

Amen!

[CoryBee]

Donpachi 2 doesn't work on my MAME version

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Do naomi games work on mame? or is there some other emulator?  Demu looks interesting as does that sega modeler one!  How about this Taito X thing?? is that an emulator?

[Haze]

re: dodonpachi 2 - bee storm, use a newer version then, been working for a long time now.

re: Naomi, you won't want to use MAME, emulation is preliminary and very slow, use Demul.  Be aware that Demul certainly won't run at any acceptable level on a P4, you need a MUCH better system including a very good video card for proper emulation (A *fast* DX11 card is recommended and that also means you'll need Win7)

re: Type X, it isn't emulation, it's just cracked PC software (ripped from arcade machines) with the security checks etc. taken out, it's closer to what you see with 0-day PC cracked STEAM releases on TPB than anything emulation related. I won't say anything more, because I assume the forum has rules against that type of thing.

re: Blitz, I'm not sure that many people want to play it, but it is considered a pretty good indicator that your MAME box is up to scratch and you're not going to have an issues with anything else except the really silly cases where you can't even buy a suitable CPU.  I'm not convinced it's actually the most relevant game to set that bar these days but it is one people like to use.

[paigeoliver]

That makes sense. I am not into football games, but if I wanted to play a 3D football game on a killer rig I would probably just buy last years version of whatever the good football series is these days on Amazon for $3, it would have to be better than Blitz.

re: Blitz, I'm not sure that many people want to play it, but it is considered a pretty good indicator that your MAME box is up to scratch and you're not going to have an issues with anything else except the really silly cases where you can't even buy a suitable CPU.  I'm not convinced it's actually the most relevant game to set that bar these days but it is one people like to use.

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Ok, so many do not like blitz.....   Now back to the questions at hand..... what is a dx11 chip? do you mean direct x 11? I thought that was software?

I have checked out "gaming rigs" online and I am very shocked at how many different CPU's are out there now! OMG!!! there is so many.... I am more confused then ever! lol....

Jim

[Haze]

yes, DX11 means DirectX 11, if you want to run Demul properly you need a card capable of supporting all the DirectX 11 features properly.

This might sound overkill but the technology is developing to the point where modern cards are almost fully programmable and if you're going to do accurate emulation using the video card that's exactly the type of functionality you need rather than trying to approximate original hardware features with features available on the card.

If/when MAME has 3D acceleration it will need a similar level of hardware, simply because this is the first generation of hardware really suited to trying to do accurate emulation.

[CraftyMech]

That one too.  And Donpachi.  Really need the whole trifecta, and the spin offs.  Well most of he cave games honestly.  A little ESPRade goes a long way.

Love me some DoDonPachi. Cave for the win!

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
So what type/speed of chip will work? what ram? what graphics cards?

thanks
Jim

[Brian74]

I have 8 gigs of ram, evga 560 oc, 3.4 i5 running win7 64bit

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[rCadeGaming]

Try finding the original board and play Blitz that way.  It would be cheaper in the long run.

or a dreamcast.

Yup.  Same for the NAOMI games being mentioned.  Most NAOMI games are on Dreamcast, as they are very similar hardware that were developed together by Sega.  An actual Dreamcast is very cheap, as are VGA cables/adapters for it (or you could make on from an RGB SCART cable even cheaper).  Some of the NAOMI games, like Ikaruga (great game), are import only, but can be run without a mod chip either by using a boot disc or by burning a patched disc.  Google it, let's not talk about that any further here.

This might sound overkill but the technology is developing to the point where modern cards are almost fully programmable and if you're going to do accurate emulation using the video card that's exactly the type of functionality you need rather than trying to approximate original hardware features with features available on the card.

If/when MAME has 3D acceleration it will need a similar level of hardware, simply because this is the first generation of hardware really suited to trying to do accurate emulation.

Sounds like very interesting stuff.  Could this be the future of MAME?

[Demon-Seed]

Hey Guys
Any recommendations on sites where to buy a pre made pc?

Jim