[Rodotron 666B-29] Please help me create my monitor preset

[Calamity]

Try increasing the 31 kHz range a little bit:

crt_range2  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

[rock145]

Thanks calamity for your help and patience. That last range work perfectly with those two games that had wrong
resolution. So it's save to say that this is the best preset for rodotron 666b:

monitor custom
crt_range0  15450.00-16050.00,50.00-65.00,3.190,4.750,6.450,0.191,0.191,1.164,0,0,192,288,448,576
crt_range1  23900.00-24900.00,50.00-65.00,2.870,3.000,4.440,0.451,0.164,1.148,0,0,384,400,0,0
crt_range2  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

[rock145]

I would like to know if it is possible to make a v-size, v-hold, v-space, h-space feature integrated in groovymame in a future release. Even thought I now
have a preset if I increase the size of some games the others look zoom and with thick scanlines. But if the software does it there no need to mess  around with it.

[Calamity]

I just modified the first post topic to include "Rodotron 666B-29" so its more informative. I'm glad to see that you found a good preset for your monitor. Unfortunately v-size and v-hold can't be controlled by modelines. This is something that must be done physically on the monitor. We all have to deal with this. On the othern hand horizontal/vertical centering and horizontal size can be controlled by modelines.

[rock145]

I just modified the first post topic to include "Rodotron 666B-29" so its more informative. I'm glad to see that you found a good preset for your monitor. Unfortunately v-size and v-hold can't be controlled by modelines. This is something that must be done physically on the monitor. We all have to deal with this. On the othern hand horizontal/vertical centering and horizontal size can be controlled by modelines.

Thanks calamity. I guess this is an anolog trisync that does not remember resolutions. I am gonna leave it at a size that is good for all res
so I don't have to keep using v-size between games. The preset does help a lot with vertical games.

[rock145]

[rock145]

Today I received Scanline Generator SLG3000 and was impress on how good I was able to control scanlines with groovyume. The reason that I bought it was because I don't like how thick the scanlines are on my monitor cga games. I did arcade_31 on groovyume.ini however, I am having the same issue as before where some vertical games come out cropped in the middle. Would it be possible to make a preset that exploits 31 kHz signal? or is there a way to let groovyume change resolutions without producing scanlines and let SLG3000 poroduce it but still change resolutions.

[blontic]

Thanks calamity for your help and patience. That last range work perfectly with those two games that had wrong
resolution. So it's save to say that this is the best preset for rodotron 666b:

monitor custom
crt_range0  15450.00-16050.00,50.00-65.00,3.190,4.750,6.450,0.191,0.191,1.164,0,0,192,288,448,576
crt_range1  23900.00-24900.00,50.00-65.00,2.870,3.000,4.440,0.451,0.164,1.148,0,0,384,400,0,0
crt_range2  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

@Calamity can you tell me if these settings are the same as the preset you have in the ini file for the WeiYa 3129 since it's the same chassis as the rodotron? Just wondering what I should use for my WeiYa.

Thanks

[rock145]

Solve the problem with cropped vertical games in the middle. The problem was using arcade_31 after I change it to custom it got fix. However,
I wanted to used 31 kHz signal with slg3000 because I was unhappy of how thick the 15 kHz signal is with my multisync monitor. After playing around with groovyume.ini I left the monitor type as custom and in resolution I put 720x480@60 and it open up the 31 kHz signal ignoring the cga signal which I wanted. I check some of the games and these are some of the resolutions I am getting with some games. 400x480p, 512x480p, 888x480p 704x480p, 960x480p, 576x480p, 832x480p, 400x480p, 592x480p, 768x480p and 736x480p. I am much happier with the way cga games look now, when the monitor used to change to 15 kHz signal and I could not make out the faces of characters because of the thickness of the scanlines now it looks just right. I thought that all the games where gonna be display at 720x480p fix resolution but it turns out that swichtres is changing res and my slg3000 is producing the scanlines.

[rock145]

Thanks calamity for your help and patience. That last range work perfectly with those two games that had wrong
resolution. So it's save to say that this is the best preset for rodotron 666b:

monitor custom
crt_range0  15450.00-16050.00,50.00-65.00,3.190,4.750,6.450,0.191,0.191,1.164,0,0,192,288,448,576
crt_range1  23900.00-24900.00,50.00-65.00,2.870,3.000,4.440,0.451,0.164,1.148,0,0,384,400,0,0
crt_range2  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

@Calamity can you tell me if these settings are the same as the preset you have in the ini file for the WeiYa 3129 since it's the same chassis as the rodotron? Just wondering what I should use for my WeiYa.

Thanks

I say you can try it out there's nothing wrong with this preset for rodotron 666b-29 I am using it  and works great.

[rock145]

I just finished checking all the mame games with the 31 khz signal. All games switch
resolutions using the 31 khz. However, these are the only games that are still using the 15 khz
signal. I want groovyume to display all games at 31khz ranges because I don't like the
way games look at 15khz with my monitor. Here is the list of games I want to be display
in 31khz.

athena,canvas croquis,country club, fighting golf, gladiator 1984, madcrasher, main event 1984
rubio lepus, super volleyball.
288x216 (H) 60.000000 Hz
switchres: 576x480i 60.000 HZ 15.930 khz

bank panic
224x224 (H) 61.034092 HZ
switchres: 446x480i 60.566 hz 16.080 khz

champion boxing,champion pro wrestling, Doki doki penguin land
280x216 (H) 59.922738 hz
switchres: 560x480i 59.923 hz 15.909 khz

cisco heat
256x216 (H) 30.000000 hz
switchres: 512x480i 60.000 hz 15.930 khz

combat hawk
224x224 (v) 61.034091 hz
switchres: 800x480i 60.566 hz 16.080 khz

dribbling
256x216 (H) 60.000000 hz
switchres: 512x480i 60.000 hz 16.930 khz

momoko 120%
240x216 (H) 60.000000 hz
switchres: 480x480i 60.000 hz 15.930 khz

ninja mission, roadwars,side winder(arcadia, set 1 v2.1), spot (arcadia, v 2.0),
space ranger (arcadia v 2.1),sportime table hockey(arcadia, set 1, v 2.1), sportime bowling(arcadia, v 2.1)
up scope, world darts(arcadia, set 1, v 2.1), world trophy soccer(arcadia, v 3.0), xenon (arcadia, v 2.3)
671x216 (H) 59.997000 hz
switchres: 1344x480i 59.997 hz 15.929 khz

penguin adventure,pesadelo
280x216 (H) 59.922738 hz
switchres: 560x480i 59.923 hz 15.909 khz

I open the 31 khz signal by putting 720x480@60 resolution in my ume.ini and using the last
rodotron 666b preset please take a look. The other way would be to put arcade_31 but it makes
some vertical games cropped this is the only way to get around it so far.
also look at the logs for these games. I also tried increasing crt_range2 00-33000
crt_range2  31000.00-33000.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0
but it did not help.

Thanks.

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[Calamity]

Hi rock145,

The solutions is pretty obvious, just allow your monitor to use the 31 kHz range. The way you have it now you still are including the 15 kHz and the 31 kHz as selectable by GroovyMAME through the crt_range0 and crt_range1 lines. You have to set everything to 'auto' except crt_range0, which you have to replace with the 31 kHz range contents, like this:

crt_range0  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

[rock145]

Hi rock145,

The solutions is pretty obvious, just allow your monitor to use the 31 kHz range. The way you have it now you still are including the 15 kHz and the 31 kHz as selectable by GroovyMAME through the crt_range0 and crt_range1 lines. You have to set everything to 'auto' except crt_range0, which you have to replace with the 31 kHz range contents, like this:

crt_range0  31000.00-32500.00,50.00-65.00,0.330,3.580,1.750,0.316,0.063,1.137,0,0,480,512,0,0

Thanks calamity I really do appreciate your help. You have help me achieve everything that I wanted out of my monitor. I would say that this is the
best forum for everything arcade. Without groovymame to me the arcade experience is not complete.