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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #360 on: September 28, 2013, 02:37:21 pm »
Ahhh crap. Guess I'm not doing much for a few weeks

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #361 on: September 28, 2013, 07:25:16 pm »

What?!  Kick that stuff out and get on with it!   :laugh2:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #362 on: September 28, 2013, 08:50:44 pm »
I know right? Master bed and bath remodel isn't finished so all that furniture has no home for a while.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #363 on: September 30, 2013, 11:45:27 am »
Ahhh crap. Guess I'm not doing much for a few weeks


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #364 on: October 02, 2013, 04:24:31 pm »
Ahhh crap. Guess I'm not doing much for a few weeks

Oh man, I can totally relate.  We currently have this busted p.o.s. pickup truck parked in our garage (aka: my workshop) that is totally roadblocking my getting started with anything.  (It was parked in a spot outside, but we started getting nasty notes from the HOA).     


And wouldn'tcha know it ... the DAY I called a charity to come get it, my wife decides she wants to sell it to some other company - just as soon as she registers it with the DMV as inoperable    :banghead:


It's been a week or so - so I'm gonna move it back outside for (at least) the weekend. 
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #365 on: October 10, 2013, 12:47:30 pm »
Just a quick update.

I'm starting to get into the board testing now that I have managed to clear some space in the garage to lay everything out.

Currently the board isn't even booting or performing any diagnostic tests, it just sits with solid red LEDs all the time. I'm learning how to use my Oscilloscope properly so that is fun, also I'm having fun testing with the logic probe that I bought. The combination of these two and a decent multi Meter is making it much easier to follow the guidance I am getting over at KLOV to test the various chips and circuits.

So far we have reduced the first problem area to that of the watchdogging and reset circuits that are keeping the game board in a permanent state of reset, which would explain why it never boots or performs any diagnostics.

Pretty fascinating stuff to walk through when you are being guided by someone who knows, otherwise it would be pure hell for sure.

If you're interested in all the nitty gritty hi, lo, mhz, clocks and pin-outs gobbledeegook then you can follow along with the dedicated board repair thread here

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #366 on: October 20, 2013, 12:46:41 am »
Small update to let you all know  the project is still alive. I have a full set of cut plans now for the cockpit thanks to DPTwiz  over at KLOV who let me use his patterns.

Currently I am getting some major schooling on PCB repair and schematic reading by some very kind folks at KLOV. I've been spending many nights  testing the boards and recording my results. No good news to report  yet but I'm learning a whole new area of the hobby.

My workshop looks a lot more like a lab than a sawmill these days and I'm loving the challenge and learning curve.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #367 on: October 20, 2013, 01:41:57 am »
I wish I could be more than just a cheerleader at this point...but great project!  Some of the chatter between some of the regulars here has been incredibly amusing  :lol

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #368 on: October 20, 2013, 12:26:17 pm »
Neat move doing your own board repair rather than just packing them off to a specialist.  I'm pulling for you too.  I've gotten great satisfaction from my forays into pinball board repair.   :cheers:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #369 on: October 20, 2013, 10:05:03 pm »
Thanks TJC .

Well for all the faith and work we are starting to see some results

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #370 on: October 21, 2013, 03:25:18 am »
Nice work, this is a test mode? Did the roms turn out ok?

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Re: Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #371 on: October 21, 2013, 09:16:13 am »
Nice work, this is a test mode? Did the roms turn out ok?

Yep this is test mode, it seems to be stuck in that mode right now. I have a full set of game, sound and video roms on the way

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #372 on: October 21, 2013, 01:17:54 pm »

I've seen that caused by bad/dirty dip switches.  Board looks "stuck" but what it really meant in that case was "shorted test mode switch".

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #373 on: October 21, 2013, 01:21:52 pm »

I've seen that caused by bad/dirty dip switches.  Board looks "stuck" but what it really meant in that case was "shorted test mode switch".

On the SW board I don't think the DIP switches are used for the test mode, it's a tab  you need to ground, also I installed brand new DIP switches as the ones on the board were smashed. It is a bit odd, I am hoping that it's either the missing game ROM in socket #1 or the self test ROM in #4 is all crazy face. I have a full set of working ROMs on the way from a KLOV member who pulled them from a working SW board when he upgraded his to a SW/ESB kit.
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #374 on: October 21, 2013, 01:30:55 pm »
On the SW board I don't think the DIP switches are used for the test mode, it's a tab  you need to ground, also I installed brand new DIP switches as the ones on the board were smashed. It is a bit odd, I am hoping that it's either the missing game ROM in socket #1 or the self test ROM in #4 is all crazy face. I have a full set of working ROMs on the way from a KLOV member who pulled them from a working SW board when he upgraded his to a SW/ESB kit.


Yeah, on SW, it might be a switch on the coin door... can't remember for sure in this case.  If it is the cause may be in the harness for similar reasons.  Just another thing you can rule out with the DMM while waiting for the package.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #375 on: October 21, 2013, 01:37:35 pm »
Yeah, on SW, it might be a switch on the coin door... can't remember for sure in this case.  If it is the cause may be in the harness for similar reasons.  Just another thing you can rule out with the DMM while waiting for the package.

Yep it could definitely be the harness, I have the service panel unplugged in case the switch was shorting there, but it still does it, so I'll have to look for shorts across that pin on the harness. Also it could just be defaulting to the test as it can't launch the game without all the game ROMS. The other weird part is the fact that it is auto advancing through the tests without me hitting aux coin at all.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #376 on: October 21, 2013, 04:53:04 pm »

Is it advancing with a consistent timing or seemingly at random intervals?


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #377 on: October 21, 2013, 04:55:21 pm »

Is it advancing with a consistent timing or seemingly at random intervals?

It looks pretty consistent

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #378 on: October 22, 2013, 07:57:39 pm »
Wow talk about labor intensive haha.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #379 on: March 03, 2014, 12:51:00 pm »
Just wanted to drop in and show you guys this isn't dead, just moving very slowly. Game boards repaired, 25" Amp repro built and working, still needs a few tiny refinements, but it's pretty much complete.


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #380 on: March 03, 2014, 12:59:07 pm »
Epic game play.  That's a grail!

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #381 on: March 03, 2014, 04:00:33 pm »
Que the SAWDUST chants, lol

After the news on the v-pin build I was getting nervous. Glad to see all the work in that 25" chassis payed off.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #382 on: March 03, 2014, 05:35:10 pm »
Just wanted to drop in and show you guys this isn't dead, just moving very slowly. Game boards repaired, 25" Amp repro built and working, still needs a few tiny refinements, but it's pretty much complete.

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What are the implications for this? Can any yahoo that can find a tube that hasn't been destroyed get a vector cab?  Are you a sith lord or can any padawan do use the force to do this?

Either way, it looks super exciting. 

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #383 on: March 03, 2014, 05:45:40 pm »
Hrmmm,

Good question, I was a Padawan when I started the project but I'm definitely creeping closer to Jedi Initiate these days. If you can follow instruction well, wield a soldering iron and you're lucky enough to find the right parts then yes you could to it too. It's just a lot of work, research and troubleshooting.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #384 on: March 03, 2014, 05:54:41 pm »
You forgot $$ and a cool wife that let's you spend it. 

Jedi indeed.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #385 on: March 03, 2014, 06:49:03 pm »
Yes this is a spendy project, the parts list alone for the monitor is around $500 and that's with snagging the tube for $50 and getting a buddy hookup price on a WG6100 yoke

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #386 on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:36 pm »
You lead a charmed life, my man.  Awesome!

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #387 on: March 04, 2014, 07:45:59 am »
Sure it looks like it plays great but where do you put your drink?!  >:D

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #388 on: March 04, 2014, 08:35:31 am »


Well it's obvious somebody used to bullseye womp rats in their T16 back home.   :D

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #389 on: March 04, 2014, 10:10:25 am »
still needs a few tiny refinements, but it's pretty much complete.

Hot glue some action figures across the top, slap a poster on the side, and call her done!  ;)

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #390 on: March 04, 2014, 10:23:41 am »
HA!

Sure it looks like it plays great but where do you put your drink?!  >:D

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #391 on: March 04, 2014, 03:40:07 pm »
...Nerds.



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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #392 on: March 05, 2014, 01:08:35 am »
Thats awesome.

Its funny, when you think about all the time, money, work, and frustration that must have gone into this for a game that lasted about 1min 20 sec from start to end. Its amazing how a challenge can motivate some one and how the feeling of accomplishment after makes it all worth while.

Congratulations, and good luck with the rest of the build. 

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #393 on: March 05, 2014, 09:07:22 am »
Thats awesome.

Its funny, when you think about all the time, money, work, and frustration that must have gone into this for a game that lasted about 1min 20 sec from start to end. Its amazing how a challenge can motivate some one and how the feeling of accomplishment after makes it all worth while.

Congratulations, and good luck with the rest of the build.


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #394 on: March 05, 2014, 06:33:01 pm »
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #396 on: March 08, 2014, 01:55:51 pm »

That's a serious achievement, IMO.  Hell just finding that tube is a big deal.  I can't find even find a 6100 anymore.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #397 on: July 09, 2015, 11:18:32 am »
Any updates on this project?

Sorry for resurrecting a 16-month old thread.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #398 on: July 09, 2015, 12:48:41 pm »
Any updates on this project?

Sorry for resurrecting a 16-month old thread.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #399 on: January 19, 2016, 09:19:27 am »
Yeah sorry this project is officially dead.

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