Building custom arcade cabinet

[Nitro0602]

Hey guys,
I have built a custom arcade cabinet that uses the Tankstick led/LCD 32" TV with a decent computer that can run mostly are arcade roms. I also put all retro rom/emulators like nes, snes, dreamcast, neo-geo...
Really turned out well as I used the Maximus arcade interface and programmed my Tankstick to play all emulators.

Now my question is... I have had a lot of people interested in buying the complete machine from me...
Which is good, but what would be my legal rights as I read that emulators/roms are not for resale only for home use

Can I sell the entire system and say games come free, as they would buying the entire package... I don't want to get in trouble.... Any help would be amazing!!!!

[Unstupid]

I like it, except for the x-arcade stick! 

[Nitro0602]

Thanks... Next one will be custom buttons
Just wanted to do an easy plug and play arcade cabinet for starters

[BobA]

There is no legal way to package the games (ROMS) with the emulators.  Do not look for work arounds or other ways to include them.  Even free is illegal.   Best not to bring up ROMS here as it is a NO NO.  You will never find a legal way unless you provide games that come as collections that can legally be purchased for home use.  Such collections exist and can be purchased.

[chopperthedog]

What is the height of the front of the control panel? Interesting approach but it looks like it would be odd to play both standing and sitting.


good day.

[SNAAKE]

you should be selling it as "NO F*#K*NG GAMES INCLUDED AT ALL!!"

[Brian74]

you should be selling it as "NO F*#K*NG GAMES INCLUDED AT ALL!!"

+1

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[Gray_Area]

Freakin spazzes.

Anyways, nice that you did a viewlix design. Pretty simply, too. Some visual enhancements would be: nixing the cabinet knobs (they make it look like furniture), and embedding or somehow obscuring the side mounting hardware.


@chopper: dude, you don't stand at it, like a prol. It's a candy type machine. You sit at it like a KING.

[Nitro0602]

Thanks for the input guys... The controller height is 3ft high from the ground.. I find it fine standing and perfect for sitting on a bar stool as I'm 6'3 tall.  I wanted to build something similar to Vewlix, but more simple and standup as sitting seems a bit to lazy/boring

Where can I legally purchase roms as I want to do this as legit as possible.

I'm working on some Vinyl artwork to spice it up a bit.. I see how it looks like furniture so hopefully artwork will change that.  Will post pics after as I'm in the middle of designing it

Any other input you guys have will be great!   

[kahlid74]

As has been said there really isn't anyway for you to sell it with all of that included legally.  If this is a one time sale, you can probably do things under the radar and be alright.  If you plan on making it a business or doing many of them be very careful, you're bound to raise some eyebrows.

[Gray_Area]

Yeah, just don't bother. Everybody downloads stuff and uses flash media these days. Build the machine, let others worry about the games.

[BobA]

You can include a legal collections disk to show that the cab works.  Legal Collection Link

[Nitro0602]

Thanks Boba, I will look into the buying the PC version!! Great link!

[Nitro0602]

Thanks Gray_Area!
I agree to many spazzes here!
But I think its easier for me just to sell the cabinet without games... to many issues, I could always tell them which sites to go on 

[paigeoliver]

I will go ahead and state the obvious, since no one else did.

Looks like an Xarcade stick on a tv stand. Sure, the monitor install looks sort of decent but that is the sort of thing everyone in the community laughs at.

You don't have a viable product there. You aren't adding any value. Your buddies might think you could sell that and they might pretend to be interested. But all of that will fall apart. I have been buying, selling, and building game cabinets cabinets since 2001 (over 300 to date). I have had countless friends and family express interest in them and ultimately not one of them every pulled the trigger on one of them, not even at cost. You can't count on any of those people to follow through, and what you are building there isn't competitive with anything else available in the marketplace.

Not trying to be a jerk, I am just stating the truth before you invest any money in trying to sell those things.

If you actually want to make some money selling game cabinets then you are going to at least have to learn how to integrate your own control panels and wire them up yourself. However even then competition is fierce and margins aren't all that high on anything that has a scratch-built cabinet.

Even if it was legal you don't want to sell them with a premade software setup. At some point down the road it will break and then they will be looking for you to fix it, no matter how long it has been. These days I normally only sell dedicated games, project games or parts. The only way I would sell a multicabinet today is either without a computer or using one of the JAMMA multiboards. The JAMMA multiboards may not be 100 percent legit, but nearly every arcade, pinball and jukebox retailer in America sells the things and you can buy the boards on Amazon. The copyright holders on the games on those things seem to have given up fighting them years ago.

[Rigby]

Everything paigeoliver said, plus:

You'd have better chances selling cabinets if you work with the customer to build them exactly what they want, rather than trying to convince them what you have is what they want.  No matter what you have, it is not what the customer wants, and they won't buy what you have, just as we've all seen.

[CoryBee]

You'd have better chances selling cabinets if you work with the customer to build them exactly what they want, rather than trying to convince them what you have is what they want.  No matter what you have, it is not what the customer wants, and they won't buy what you have, just as we've all seen.

  this ^

[mgb]

Thanks Gray_Area!
I agree to many spazzes here!
But I think its easier for me just to sell the cabinet without games... to many issues, I could always tell them which sites to go on 

so are you saying that the guys that gave you advice on your question, are spazzes?

[BobA]

Multiple threads on the same topic by the same OP are tiring.

[bradx]

trying not to be too much of a jerk, but, really?  you might be able to sell that to an ignorant friend, but youre not going to make a business out of selling those things, thats for sure.  considering you cant even rotate a picture i have little faith in your ability to set up the software properly, and dropping an x arcade stick into what looks like a TV cart with a hole in the top isnt exactly rocket science.  joysticks and buttons are switches, was an ipac too much for you to comprehend?  whats inside those cabinet doors?  where does the sound come from, the TV speakers?  making a marquee was too much work?  same goes for a monitor bezel i guess. 

the ONLY possible selling point is that it plays thousands of illegal games.  thats the only reason people are interested in buying it.  anyone smart enough to download roms and set up an emulator would be smart enough to build that thing themselves.  take away the games and the functionality of the thing and you have the value of a bunch of used parts and a stack of wood, only.  in other words, its worth less than you paid for it. 

why would you think you have the right to distribute roms you have no ownership of, free or otherwise? 

just curious, when you posted it for sale, what was your asking price? 

[mgb]

trying not to be too much of a jerk, but, really?  you might be able to sell that to an ignorant friend, but youre not going to make a business out of selling those things, thats for sure.  considering you cant even rotate a picture i have little faith in your ability to set up the software properly, and dropping an x arcade stick into what looks like a TV cart with a hole in the top isnt exactly rocket science.  joysticks and buttons are switches, was an ipac too much for you to comprehend?  whats inside those cabinet doors?  where does the sound come from, the TV speakers?  making a marquee was too much work?  same goes for a monitor bezel i guess. 

the ONLY possible selling point is that it plays thousands of illegal games.  thats the only reason people are interested in buying it.  anyone smart enough to download roms and set up an emulator would be smart enough to build that thing themselves.  take away the games and the functionality of the thing and you have the value of a bunch of used parts and a stack of wood, only.  in other words, its worth less than you paid for it. 

why would you think you have the right to distribute roms you have no ownership of, free or otherwise? 

just curious, when you posted it for sale, what was your asking price?

But Brad, it's custom.
It's not like its one of those off the shelf mass produced machines that the rest of us are using.

[mcseforsale]

My wife says sell them for $$ and I say Monster Arcade is down the street and he can whack out a full size cab on his CNC router in about 30 min.  Mine take months of spare time.

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[paigeoliver]

I once specifically knocked out a scratchbuilt cabinet starting from nothing the day before a game auction. Took 13 hours. My profit was about $150 after my costs and the auction fees. Not exactly a stellar hourly wage.

My wife says sell them for $$ and I say Monster Arcade is down the street and he can whack out a full size cab on his CNC router in about 30 min.  Mine take months of spare time.

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[mcseforsale]

I'm going to attempt the same thing with a couple of wee-cades.  I figure if nothing else, I can give them as gifts if noone wants to buy.  Lumber for those is cheap.   

AJ

I once specifically knocked out a scratchbuilt cabinet starting from nothing the day before a game auction. Took 13 hours. My profit was about $150 after my costs and the auction fees. Not exactly a stellar hourly wage.

My wife says sell them for $$ and I say Monster Arcade is down the street and he can whack out a full size cab on his CNC router in about 30 min.  Mine take months of spare time.

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[SNAAKE]

As has been said there really isn't anyway for you to sell it with all of that included legally.  If this is a one time sale, you can probably do things under the radar and be alright.  If you plan on making it a business or doing many of them be very careful, you're bound to raise some eyebrows.

[bradx]

trying not to be too much of a jerk, but, really?  you might be able to sell that to an ignorant friend, but youre not going to make a business out of selling those things, thats for sure.  considering you cant even rotate a picture i have little faith in your ability to set up the software properly, and dropping an x arcade stick into what looks like a TV cart with a hole in the top isnt exactly rocket science.  joysticks and buttons are switches, was an ipac too much for you to comprehend?  whats inside those cabinet doors?  where does the sound come from, the TV speakers?  making a marquee was too much work?  same goes for a monitor bezel i guess. 

the ONLY possible selling point is that it plays thousands of illegal games.  thats the only reason people are interested in buying it.  anyone smart enough to download roms and set up an emulator would be smart enough to build that thing themselves.  take away the games and the functionality of the thing and you have the value of a bunch of used parts and a stack of wood, only.  in other words, its worth less than you paid for it. 

why would you think you have the right to distribute roms you have no ownership of, free or otherwise? 

just curious, when you posted it for sale, what was your asking price?

But Brad, it's custom.
It's not like its one of those off the shelf mass produced machines that the rest of us are using.

you know what gets me?  he was too lazy/stupid to take the buttons and joystick out of the x-arcade box.  i wonder if he took the screws out and was, like, "oh man, there are way too many wires in here" or something, hahaha.  or did it never even occur to him? 

somebody who cannot fathom the mystery of wiring up a series of switches probably should find something else to sell than custom built arcade cabinets. 

and the slabs of unnecessary wood up top, why not put in some speakers or a marquee? 

its a TV, an old PC, and a USB joystick in a modified TV cart with a hole cut in the top. 

[Skitterleap]

For trying not to be too much of a jerk, you sure are one, brad. There are nicer ways to get your point across than to completely slam on everything like it disgusts you.

Firstly, I like the design. It looks good.
Second, X-arcade sells cabinets much like this for $2599.99, except I personally think x-arcade's looks terrible in comparison.

Could he make some upgrades for speakers? Absolutely.
Would I attempt to make a business out of producing these? No.

but the way I understood this thread, this guy made a viable cabinet to chunk some premade gear into. Once he learned of the wider world of home cabinet making, he decided he wanted to do a proper one, and selling his current would make a bunch of sense. Having just started learning about these things, I can relate to that.

Your post is just toxic and your few valid points are drowned out by your useless attitude. What is it that angers you so about how a cabinet you will never play on is made?

[nitz]

Yeah, I don't see a reason to get worked up about this. He's new and you're really giving him a rough time to say the least.

The guy did a clean, if non traditional build, had some buddies who were interested in buying it, and thought maybe he could make a bit of money selling them. What's the big deal?

It's stuff like this that makes some people not want to post their projects. I'm wrapping up a scratch build. It's my first cab, I came into it with virtually zero woodworking skills, and it does show a bit. I'm probably not gonna do a project thread. I think it's turning out ok, and I can take constructive criticism for sure, but it seems like when somebody does something non-traditional or something that's a bit rough around the edges, words like "crapmame", "lazy", and "stupid" start getting tossed about. I don't think everyone should just praise everything, as that benefits no one, but just offer some constructive criticism or don't say anything at all.

Anyway, in case the OP is still around and thinking about it, I'll respectfully add my two cents as to why this really isn't viable. Even with a very conservative cost estimate, say $100 for the X-Arcade, $150 for the TV, a $50 PC, $50 for the remaining materials, and a measly $50 for your labor, we're already at a $400 price tag.

Someone who wants an arcade unit will likely want a more traditional cab - which they can probably find in their local classifieds for less than $400.

Someone who wants a setup like this and does their homework will realize that they can pick up a tankstick for $100 and hook it up to a PC and TV that they probably already have.

If your buddies are willing to pay you to set one of these up for them rather than do the work themselves, I say go for it. But it's probably not worth your time and money to start producing these and putting them on Craigslist or Kijiji or whatever.

[Nitro0602]

You know what gets me bradx.. how much of a moron you sound!!!  I would swear.. but honestly your not worth it...  I can tell your a pathetic loser that has nothing better to do in life

Haters will haters.. but I am selling these at a reasonable price, due to fact everything has warranty and bought from stores.. all new except the computer, which I still buy from a retail store that is refurbished.  I give my clients warranty on everything and where to send it to if something goes wrong, or they can come by my warehouse and I can take care of it for them.

Speakers.. yes
Graphics.. yes

bradx.. seriously, get a life! No character at all, surprised this website allows to even post crap like that.. people like you deserve noting but failure.

A lot of people are not computer tech savvy.. what easy for us, is confusing to others... I thought that was common sense, but not everyone can understands that

Anyways.. thanks for the positive feedback.. I fully understand the tankstick is looked down upon.. but the fact they give lifetime warranty, is a huge selling feature and less hassle for me.

trying not to be too much of a jerk, but, really?  you might be able to sell that to an ignorant friend, but youre not going to make a business out of selling those things, thats for sure.  considering you cant even rotate a picture i have little faith in your ability to set up the software properly, and dropping an x arcade stick into what looks like a TV cart with a hole in the top isnt exactly rocket science.  joysticks and buttons are switches, was an ipac too much for you to comprehend?  whats inside those cabinet doors?  where does the sound come from, the TV speakers?  making a marquee was too much work?  same goes for a monitor bezel i guess. 

the ONLY possible selling point is that it plays thousands of illegal games.  thats the only reason people are interested in buying it.  anyone smart enough to download roms and set up an emulator would be smart enough to build that thing themselves.  take away the games and the functionality of the thing and you have the value of a bunch of used parts and a stack of wood, only.  in other words, its worth less than you paid for it. 

why would you think you have the right to distribute roms you have no ownership of, free or otherwise? 

just curious, when you posted it for sale, what was your asking price?

But Brad, it's custom.
It's not like its one of those off the shelf mass produced machines that the rest of us are using.

you know what gets me?  he was too lazy/stupid to take the buttons and joystick out of the x-arcade box.  i wonder if he took the screws out and was, like, "oh man, there are way too many wires in here" or something, hahaha.  or did it never even occur to him? 

somebody who cannot fathom the mystery of wiring up a series of switches probably should find something else to sell than custom built arcade cabinets. 

and the slabs of unnecessary wood up top, why not put in some speakers or a marquee? 

its a TV, an old PC, and a USB joystick in a modified TV cart with a hole cut in the top.

[rpgposer]

The original post made it seem like your friends were interested in something you built.  Now it appears you might be gearing up to sell many of these things.  To me, it changes the feel from sharing something cool with your friends to something mass produced.  There are other companies doing this.  You can either undercut or do better than them.  I would lean towards something better.  I would put speakers and a piece of clear plexi in the marquee area that you can stick printed art behind.  I would use real sticks and buttons (sanwa/seimitsu) and an encoder.  I would NOT supply a PC.  This removes the liability of OS, emulation and roms.

Is this as good as my old angle woody or a japanese candy cab (which I do not have)?  No.

[Nitro0602]

You sound jealous man... Some of you guys litterally sound like "Grumpy old Men"
You guys are all pathetic loosers, that have nothing better else to do.. We're in the 21st century, not stuck in the 80's.. You guys may not like the build.. Which doesn't bother me, but I wanted to turn something old School to something new.  This thing is solid and built like the tankstick... But whatever I say you pathetic loosers will roll your eyes and be negative... So both ways, get a life, stop being haters and screw off!

I like positive criticism, like artwork, speakers... Which I have already corrected, so thank you guys for the positive feedback and the constructive criticism, much appreciated!

Anyways.. You haters should really think before you comment, because you look like a bunch of ass's with no class!

Later haters!! Lol

I will go ahead and state the obvious, since no one else did.

Looks like an Xarcade stick on a tv stand. Sure, the monitor install looks sort of decent but that is the sort of thing everyone in the community laughs at.

You don't have a viable product there. You aren't adding any value. Your buddies might think you could sell that and they might pretend to be interested. But all of that will fall apart. I have been buying, selling, and building game cabinets cabinets since 2001 (over 300 to date). I have had countless friends and family express interest in them and ultimately not one of them every pulled the trigger on one of them, not even at cost. You can't count on any of those people to follow through, and what you are building there isn't competitive with anything else available in the marketplace.

Not trying to be a jerk, I am just stating the truth before you invest any money in trying to sell those things.

If you actually want to make some money selling game cabinets then you are going to at least have to learn how to integrate your own control panels and wire them up yourself. However even then competition is fierce and margins aren't all that high on anything that has a scratch-built cabinet.

Even if it was legal you don't want to sell them with a premade software setup. At some point down the road it will break and then they will be looking for you to fix it, no matter how long it has been. These days I normally only sell dedicated games, project games or parts. The only way I would sell a multicabinet today is either without a computer or using one of the JAMMA multiboards. The JAMMA multiboards may not be 100 percent legit, but nearly every arcade, pinball and jukebox retailer in America sells the things and you can buy the boards on Amazon. The copyright holders on the games on those things seem to have given up fighting them years ago.

[mcseforsale]

Calling people "haters" is so 90s tech.  I call weaksauce.

Either way, enjoy.

AJ

You sound jealous man... Some of you guys litterally sound like "Grumpy old Men"
You guys are all pathetic loosers, that have nothing better else to do.. We're in the 21st century, not stuck in the 80's.. You guys may not like the build.. Which doesn't bother me, but I wanted to turn something old School to something new.  This thing is solid and built like the tankstick... But whatever I say you pathetic loosers will roll your eyes and be negative... So both ways, get a life, stop being haters and screw off!

I like positive criticism, like artwork, speakers... Which I have already corrected, so thank you guys for the positive feedback and the constructive criticism, much appreciated!

Anyways.. You haters should really think before you comment, because you look like a bunch of ass's with no class!

Later haters!! Lol

I will go ahead and state the obvious, since no one else did.

Looks like an Xarcade stick on a tv stand. Sure, the monitor install looks sort of decent but that is the sort of thing everyone in the community laughs at.

You don't have a viable product there. You aren't adding any value. Your buddies might think you could sell that and they might pretend to be interested. But all of that will fall apart. I have been buying, selling, and building game cabinets cabinets since 2001 (over 300 to date). I have had countless friends and family express interest in them and ultimately not one of them every pulled the trigger on one of them, not even at cost. You can't count on any of those people to follow through, and what you are building there isn't competitive with anything else available in the marketplace.

Not trying to be a jerk, I am just stating the truth before you invest any money in trying to sell those things.

If you actually want to make some money selling game cabinets then you are going to at least have to learn how to integrate your own control panels and wire them up yourself. However even then competition is fierce and margins aren't all that high on anything that has a scratch-built cabinet.

Even if it was legal you don't want to sell them with a premade software setup. At some point down the road it will break and then they will be looking for you to fix it, no matter how long it has been. These days I normally only sell dedicated games, project games or parts. The only way I would sell a multicabinet today is either without a computer or using one of the JAMMA multiboards. The JAMMA multiboards may not be 100 percent legit, but nearly every arcade, pinball and jukebox retailer in America sells the things and you can buy the boards on Amazon. The copyright holders on the games on those things seem to have given up fighting them years ago.

[chopperthedog]

Well the truth struck a nerve there. You must not have many friends. Not sure what kind of accolades you were hoping for by taking a microwave stand and half assing an xarcade into it and thinking you could sell it as a product. But carry on dude.


good day.

[Nitro0602]

You talk like your avatar.. Lol
You replying must have struck a nerve too... No?
I hope many people see these haters and banned their ass's!
People like you are just talk, no brains.. Shoot first then think.. Right?
I'm actually finding this funny, you knock others, but I don't tolerate BS, especially from smucks like you.

I would like to delete this thread, cause I don't want to have any assoication from you haters.

For all you beginners, don't be intimated by these buffoons, I'm not no expert, but msg me if you need any help

Well the truth struck a nerve there. You must not have many friends. Not sure what kind of accolades you were hoping for by taking a microwave stand and half assing an xarcade into it and thinking you could sell it as a product. But carry on dude.


good day.

[chopperthedog]

You sound jealous man... Some of you guys litterally sound like "Grumpy old Men"
You guys are all pathetic loosers, that have nothing better else to do.. We're in the 21st century, not stuck in the 80's.. You guys may not like the build.. Which doesn't bother me, but I wanted to turn something old School to something new.  This thing is solid and built like the tankstick... But whatever I say you pathetic loosers will roll your eyes and be negative... So both ways, get a life, stop being haters and screw off!

I like positive criticism, like artwork, speakers... Which I have already corrected, so thank you guys for the positive feedback and the constructive criticism, much appreciated!

Anyways.. You haters should really think before you comment, because you look like a bunch of ass's with no class!

Later haters!! Lol

You talk like your avatar.. Lol
You replying must have struck a nerve too... No?
I hope many people see these haters and banned their ass's!
People like you are just talk, no brains.. Shoot first then think.. Right?
I'm actually finding this funny, you knock others, but I don't tolerate BS, especially from smucks like you.

I would like to delete this thread, cause I don't want to have any assoication from you haters.

For all you beginners, don't be intimated by these buffoons, I'm not no expert, but msg me if you need any help

  quoted other posts so you can't edit them. Does the slightest negative friction always lead to you turning into a child with the name calling? I await to see what other Brady Bunch insults you can dig up.



good day.

[Nitro0602]

It's not name calling if its the honest truth 
Your suggestion that I have hardly any friends, sounds like someone from the 80's/90's pathetic smuck of a looser would say who hates all day (see what I did there  )

I hope the moderators delete this thread or at least the haters, cause you guys turned something honest to hate.

You sound jealous man... Some of you guys litterally sound like "Grumpy old Men"
You guys are all pathetic loosers, that have nothing better else to do.. We're in the 21st century, not stuck in the 80's.. You guys may not like the build.. Which doesn't bother me, but I wanted to turn something old School to something new.  This thing is solid and built like the tankstick... But whatever I say you pathetic loosers will roll your eyes and be negative... So both ways, get a life, stop being haters and screw off!

I like positive criticism, like artwork, speakers... Which I have already corrected, so thank you guys for the positive feedback and the constructive criticism, much appreciated!

Anyways.. You haters should really think before you comment, because you look like a bunch of ass's with no class!

Later haters!! Lol

You talk like your avatar.. Lol
You replying must have struck a nerve too... No?
I hope many people see these haters and banned their ass's!
People like you are just talk, no brains.. Shoot first then think.. Right?
I'm actually finding this funny, you knock others, but I don't tolerate BS, especially from smucks like you.

I would like to delete this thread, cause I don't want to have any assoication from you haters.

For all you beginners, don't be intimated by these buffoons, I'm not no expert, but msg me if you need any help

  quoted other posts so you can't edit them. Does the slightest negative friction always lead to you turning into a child with the name calling? I await to see what other Brady Bunch insults you can dig up.



good day.

[yotsuya]

Why would they delete it? You asked for opinions, you got honest ones.Some were harsh, sure, but that doesn't make them less valid.

[Rick]

I feel like we're being trolled here. It's not like you don't expect 'colourful critique' when you post on a forum... To have such a violent response to comments seems a bit staged.

[CoryBee]

Why would they delete it? You asked for opinions, you got honest ones.Some were harsh, sure, but that doesn't make them less valid.

This x100

Have to learn to take insults\criticism with a bit of class or you will always end up where you are now (not respected by the people you looked to for guidance, in this case, these forum members).

I caught a lot of flak a year and a half ago from my early builds, I never once turned to anger or chose to insult those members. I used what they had to say and turned it into progress on the next build, after a few builds I caught onto what those who had mean things to say and those who had constructive things to say. I am now producing a better looking product, with a solid interior, better parts and have greatly increased my woodworking skills all thanks to these fine folks here at BYOAC.

Anyways, all this to say you shouldn't insult the people you ask help from (or for their opinions), they obviously know more about the subject than you do....or why else would you have posted?

Good luck in the future, also you will find more people are interested in a classic design than something unfamiliar so get a marquee in there and lose the X-Arcade for starters.....<<<<< My .02¢ worth of constructive criticism

[Nitro0602]

Okay, lets clear this up before it gets totally out of hand... I will try to make this quick as possible... without any harsh words
Everything posted prior to Bradx was fine, had a bit of a problem with paigeoilver, but hey to each their own.. right?
Personally, I felt that paigeoliver is more old school doesn't understand the newer era in gaming/arcades.  With the X-Arcade you can get adapters to play on your xbox/ps3... customers, not just friends have been concerned with crappy old cabinets breaking down, buttons and all... so I used the easy approach with a plug n play system, that obviously is frowned upon on here..lol  Nothing personal with paigeoliver, just don't see eye to eye with his comment...
Now on to Bradx... his comments just sounded overkill and uncalled for.. no need to take it to that level.. then without me replying, post another comment saying I was to lazy/stupid (who started the name calling first)  People like that should not be allowed to post.. that's where the whole "hater" came about
- thank you for the guys who also stated that and understood how uncalled his posts were 
chopperthedog.. no idea why he went off.. maybe has multiple personalities.. no clue.. but to say, "He must not have many friends" once again is uncalled for...

so others who think I'm being harsh, please read above and understand why.. before accusing someone... that's where I mentioned "Shoot first, think later" lol

Believe what you want.. but I have had great feedback and customers really like the clean simplicity of the cabinet, don't get me wrong I have also received negative emails with my product.. that comes with the any side business you choose.  My Whole system has 3 usb wires, 2 power cords and I HDMI cord... simple, plug n play approach for a lazy/stupid guy who has no friends 

[yotsuya]

Personally, I think you're too new school if you don't understand why a bunch of guys at Build Your Own Arcade Controls aren't overly impressed by your Tankstick holder.

[DGP]

As a newer member here it has become very obvious that there a few overly obsessive opinionated members that seem to forget this is supposed to be for fun.

So while the name calling was uncalled for some of the criticism was honestly very rude (and uncalled for as well).

Discussions like this only serve to make the entire forum look bad.

Just my $.02
Jason

[paigeoliver]

Yep, and nothing is less fun then spending about months of your time and possibly thousands of dollars building something that doesn't work right because the people who already made those mistakes didn't speak up when you presented your plans.

In the case of the original poster, his project was already finished it, I only spoke up because there is absolutely no way he can sell that, and starting some sort of business plan to do so would just be a lot of money wasted on TV stands.

As a newer member here it has become very obvious that there a few overly obsessive opinionated members that seem to forget this is supposed to be for fun.

So while the name calling was uncalled for some of the criticism was honestly very rude (and uncalled for as well).

Discussions like this only serve to make the entire forum look bad.

Just my $.02
Jason

[yotsuya]

I'm with Paige. Once you state you're building these with the intent to sell, then your motives aren't for fun anymore. All bets are off.

[DGP]

The content of the constructive posts was not my point, it's the way in which some of the elitists here tend to come off and it is just plain rude, period.

You do not serve to perpetuate this hobby when new people come in seeking assistance and they are basically run out of town, advice is one thing, ridicule is entirely different.

Who are any of you to tell someone what they can or cannot sell (regarding the cabinet and not the roms)..? 

Some of you are so caught up that you forget that the majority (the general consumer) does not always care about authenticity, they just see it as something to have fun with and share with their friends/families (usually their kids and I can tell you that most kids would likely have a blast on the OP's cabinet, would you not agree).

Basically all I was trying to do is give an honest perspective from a newer member who has already seen his share of these type of posts.

Jason

[Nitro0602]

I have no means to pick a bone with paig, but you have no idea if I have sold one or not.. for you to say "now way" tells me you don't know what your talking about now.  For the record, it works 100% 
If guys only new.. but no matter what what I say at this point, it won't matter.
Never state something you do not know, your credibility is meaningless to me now... (no offense), but I know the feeling is mutual 

I came here for the first to find some guidance, which I did.. which I am also thankful for.  But its remarks that I have mentioned previously that leave a bad taste in mouth and for obviously reasons think twice before I announce another project...

Paig, one more thing.. because "I cannot sell this" and to you people won't buy this "microwave stand" funny thing thing is.. I am actually in the middle of making a 4-payer arcade with 2 tanksticks... question you need to ask yourself is... do you really know what your talking about?..
I think not 

I never started any name calling.. I actually thought it would be fun to post my pics.. but its people like you that will give this great forum a bad name.. not to mention others (which I do not want to get into again)

Yep, and nothing is less fun then spending about months of your time and possibly thousands of dollars building something that doesn't work right because the people who already made those mistakes didn't speak up when you presented your plans.

In the case of the original poster, his project was already finished it, I only spoke up because there is absolutely no way he can sell that, and starting some sort of business plan to do so would just be a lot of money wasted on TV stands.

As a newer member here it has become very obvious that there a few overly obsessive opinionated members that seem to forget this is supposed to be for fun.

So while the name calling was uncalled for some of the criticism was honestly very rude (and uncalled for as well).

Discussions like this only serve to make the entire forum look bad.

Just my $.02
Jason

[Nitro0602]

what?!?!? you can't have fun doing a side business WT you talking about... that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard! 
Do you think before you wright something, or are you one of those guys who shoots first, thinks after... 
All this started for fun, just for me... but I had no intention to sell these, but if people what them, why would I stop.   I am having fun building these for clients "Man Cave"

You guys sure sound ridiculous more and more to me now... lol
I am actually getting a kick out of all these comments...

Jason... I wouldn't even waste time responding to this thread.. some "nobody" will try to shred you and break your spirits.  Please don't take this as me telling you what to do, just don't want other new comers (like myself) going through this BS... 

I'm with Paige. Once you state you're building these with the intent to sell, then your motives aren't for fun anymore. All bets are off.

[yotsuya]

I've been here 3+ years and seen a lot, my friend. I've seen new guys come and go, many with great ideas, some with not so great ones. The best ones have thick skin and respond well to all kinds of criticism. They understand not every cabinet deserves a gold star. This isn't kindergarten.

[chopperthedog]

Keep showing your true colors OP.

* chopperthedog melts some butter for his popcorn.

good day.

[paigeoliver]

I have probably sold 75-100 games in just the last year alone. I have been doing games for a long, long time. I absolutely come off as a jerk when I am giving advice sometimes, but it doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about. There is simply no way you can possibly sell what you presented here to an INFORMED consumer and still have any kind of profit margin. Not when you have other guys with CNC setups that can cut a much better looking cabinet in 1/4 the time at a lower cost.

The controls in those tanksticks are among the lowest quality available. Did you know that? Does your customer know that? Were they presented with any options? Is your customer aware that the low cost widescreen LCD monitor you are no doubt offering is both the wrong aspect ratio for everything other than modern console games and may (depending on brand) interject as much as a 3 frame input lag compared to a CRT monitor or a proper gaming lcd monitor. Did you know that?

Also, I won't sell a mame cabinet with a computer already in it anymore. I want the buyer to completely understand that they are not purchasing the games from me. Both because I have no right to sell them and because they can and will come back months or years later when the frontend or windows stops working and expect you to fix it for them for free. If they add their own computer then that becomes their problem, not mine.

[mcseforsale]

Step 1.  Know what you are talking about FIRST before you go into the viper pit.  I spent years stalking this site before I started posting
Step 2.  Don't try to be a know-it-all on your first attempt.  While you may find a few suckers to buy this stuff, you'll be supporting it for years to come (see Paige's post)
Step 3.  Don't drink and post
Step 4.  When LeChuck, Paige, Maximus or a lot of others take the time to respond to you, show some respect.  They are some of the most talented and well versed people in this hobby.
Step 5.  Have fun.  I started with this:



And ended up with this:



All because I listened, paid attention and didn't act like a spoiled brat.  Now, that ^^  I can sell.

AJ

[yotsuya]

Well-said, AJ. It's not, "Let's torment the newbies." It's "Hey, I've been there before, I know what works and what doesn't work."

That's why Dandro is my favorite newbie. He came on, got feedback, and didn't get all butt- hurt when it was different than what his initial thoughts were. In fact, it's turned into a really nice cabinet. Same with CoryBee, who already chimed it.

[paigeoliver]

Well-said, AJ. It's not, "Let's torment the newbies." It's "Hey, I've been there before, I know what works and what doesn't work."

That is why I always suggest keeping it simple at first and never, ever, ever, trying to build the ultimate Lamborghini of mame cabinets on your first build. Not only because it is impossible given current technology, but also because the ultimate mame cabinet if improperly done can easily end up being worse than your standard baseline stock streetfighter setup with 19" monitor that costs a fraction of what some of those high end builds cost.

[mgb]

Well said AJ,
  man there's a lot of real estate on that American flag cp. 

[Nitro0602]

RESPECT 
Give me a break bud, plus I only respect others who respect me.. Personally I think all you guys are stuck in the old ages... And just hating for no reason at all.. You guys are acting if I said my cabinet is better then yours..lol
Anyways this is becoming pointless and going to far... This is becoming the dumbest forum I've been on... With a bunch grumpy old men that think they know it all...

Step 1.  Know what you are talking about FIRST before you go into the viper pit.  I spent years stalking this site before I started posting
Step 2.  Don't try to be a know-it-all on your first attempt.  While you may find a few suckers to buy this stuff, you'll be supporting it for years to come (see Paige's post)
Step 3.  Don't drink and post
Step 4.  When LeChuck, Paige, Maximus or a lot of others take the time to respond to you, show some respect.  They are some of the most talented and well versed people in this hobby.
Step 5.  Have fun.  I started with this:



And ended up with this:



All because I listened, paid attention and didn't act like a spoiled brat.  Now, that ^^  I can sell.

AJ

[Nitro0602]

I love how you think you know everything. I did my research on tanksticks.. Sold about 15 of them without having one come back, bet you didn't see that coming
Also love how you THINK you know my cost on the cabinets..lol
Everything you said I've researched about.. Fact of the matter is my customers don't want the old school look, they want the vewlix look... Period
But hey, what do I know.. 

I have probably sold 75-100 games in just the last year alone. I have been doing games for a long, long time. I absolutely come off as a jerk when I am giving advice sometimes, but it doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about. There is simply no way you can possibly sell what you presented here to an INFORMED consumer and still have any kind of profit margin. Not when you have other guys with CNC setups that can cut a much better looking cabinet in 1/4 the time at a lower cost.

The controls in those tanksticks are among the lowest quality available. Did you know that? Does your customer know that? Were they presented with any options? Is your customer aware that the low cost widescreen LCD monitor you are no doubt offering is both the wrong aspect ratio for everything other than modern console games and may (depending on brand) interject as much as a 3 frame input lag compared to a CRT monitor or a proper gaming lcd monitor. Did you know that?

Also, I won't sell a mame cabinet with a computer already in it anymore. I want the buyer to completely understand that they are not purchasing the games from me. Both because I have no right to sell them and because they can and will come back months or years later when the frontend or windows stops working and expect you to fix it for them for free. If they add their own computer then that becomes their problem, not mine.

[CoryBee]

But hey, what do I know.. 

[Nitro0602]

Speaking of kindergarten.. You sound like a teachers pet.. More like a follower, which is fine bud.. To each their own..

I've been here 3+ years and seen a lot, my friend. I've seen new guys come and go, many with great ideas, some with not so great ones. The best ones have thick skin and respond well to all kinds of criticism. They understand not every cabinet deserves a gold star. This isn't kindergarten.

[yotsuya]

Not a follower, my friend.

But I hope we don't scare you off. I'm dying to see your four-player Dual Tankstick holder.

[DGP]

Step 1.  Know what you are talking about FIRST before you go into the viper pit.  I spent years stalking this site before I started posting
Step 2.  Don't try to be a know-it-all on your first attempt.  While you may find a few suckers to buy this stuff, you'll be supporting it for years to come (see Paige's post)
Step 3.  Don't drink and post
Step 4.  When LeChuck, Paige, Maximus or a lot of others take the time to respond to you, show some respect.  They are some of the most talented and well versed people in this hobby.
Step 5.  Have fun.  I started with this:


All because I listened, paid attention and didn't act like a spoiled brat.  Now, that ^^  I can sell.

AJ

As I said some of you are far too 'caught up' and cannot seem to see the forest for the trees.

The ones acting like spoiled brats were initially the opposite of the person that you are implying, read it over with an open mind and see it from both sides.

Why should people respect people that disrespect them. Admitting you come across as a jerk while giving advice does not excuse the behavior regardless of how experienced you are.

Nor does telling people to be thick-skinned and just take the unwarranted abuse that should not be there to begin with.

I don't think anyone was doubting the knowledge and skill set of those offering up advice, it's obvious they know what they are talking about, but that does not require being condescending and just plain rude in the process, especially to someone that is new and does not yet know the various personalities that frequent this forum.

Everyone starts somewhere and the rude behavior here only serves to steer them away from the hobby as well as discouraging new people from signing up and asking questions, then again maybe that was the intent after all...? 

Regards,
Jason

[Dawgz Rule]

Nitro, I do actually like the simplicity of your design although the knobs on the front do make it resemble a microwave cart.  I would recommend a single door with a magnetic type latch.  It would make it look cleaner.

That aside, this little gem really says it all....

Also, I won't sell a mame cabinet with a computer already in it anymore. I want the buyer to completely understand that they are not purchasing the games from me. Both because I have no right to sell them and because they can and will come back months or years later when the frontend or windows stops working and expect you to fix it for them for free. If they add their own computer then that becomes their problem, not mine.

I have one and only one cab that I built and each and every time I have guests over the house, somebody wants me to build them one......some to the tune of thousands of dollars.  I won't do it for the above stated reasons...especially selling to friends.  On top of that, I don't want the hassles of dealing with the legalities of the whole darn thing.  It is one thing to build a cabinet for your own enjoyment.  As soon as it expands to selling, I can see all sorts of trouble brewing between the OS licensing and the ROMS themselves.   If you figured out your margins and it looks like a good deal to you, have at it.

I would also like to see how you incorporated dual tanksticks into a four player.

[ark_ader]

Well as a xarcade owner with a sizable collection of adapters that actually work with the controller, I like the OP's cabinet.  It sure a lot better than my previous attempt 8 years ago (I got better with practice) but I would ditch the red X and make it black all over the cp.  If you want to sell it, and you have a buyer GO FOR IT!!  and very well done too.

What these fallouts from KLOV do not understand is raw functionality.  I build for that and not for cosmetic value.  The cabinet knows it is getting the small hand axe after I tire from it, so why put lipstick on a pig?

The subject of games.  I used to be a huge advocate for copyright ownership.  But since the impact of p2p it is a pointless exercise.  I will not advise you to bundle a set of roms with your cabinet.  I will leave that to your own judgement.  What you can do is download all the royalty free games at mame.net.  Or you can email xgaming for their arcade disk.

On the subject of dissing peoples creation.  Well its in the rules, and if Saint doesn't enforce the rules or his mods, then it is a sad day indeed.  Besides you can always mute or tell them to ---fudgesicle--- off.

[Nitro0602]

Thanks for the advice, I understand what you mean about the doors.
I may change that, maybe I have weird customers but they don't mind it.. Lol
But yeah I understand it will make it cleaner, just wanted something easy breezy.. Almost like a cabinet for dummies.. Lol
You will be surprised how many people email me not understanding the mame thing, or have tried and just given up... I was too like them, but did my research and so on.. 

I do include the computer, but not the roms anymore... Everything comes with warranty as I buy all products at stores.. And give my customers receipts for everything...

Worst thing that has happened is a customers power supply died during a power outage, it was still under warranty.. Told him to make sure he buys a power-surge bar of some sort to avoid it again..

Nitro, I do actually like the simplicity of your design although the knobs on the front do make it resemble a microwave cart.  I would recommend a single door with a magnetic type latch.  It would make it look cleaner.

That aside, this little gem really says it all....

Also, I won't sell a mame cabinet with a computer already in it anymore. I want the buyer to completely understand that they are not purchasing the games from me. Both because I have no right to sell them and because they can and will come back months or years later when the frontend or windows stops working and expect you to fix it for them for free. If they add their own computer then that becomes their problem, not mine.

I have one and only one cab that I built and each and every time I have guests over the house, somebody wants me to build them one......some to the tune of thousands of dollars.  I won't do it for the above stated reasons...especially selling to friends.  On top of that, I don't want the hassles of dealing with the legalities of the whole darn thing.  It is one thing to build a cabinet for your own enjoyment.  As soon as it expands to selling, I can see all sorts of trouble brewing between the OS licensing and the ROMS themselves.   If you figured out your margins and it looks like a good deal to you, have at it.

I would also like to see how you incorporated dual tanksticks into a four player.

[Nitro0602]

Thanks bud.
I actually don't like the big ass X on the stick as well.. Lol
Was thinking of getting a vinyl sticker and putting it on top, not sure if that voids the warranty though.. One customer didn't like it, but it's the same dude I'm building the 4-player for..lol

Trying to get some licenses, but some good guys on here sent me some links to buy cd arcade games..

Criticism.. Knew I would get some.. Name calling.. That's just ignorant morons IMO who should go and 
Themselves.. 

Well as a xarcade owner with a sizable collection of adapters that actually work with the controller, I like the OP's cabinet.  It sure a lot better than my previous attempt 8 years ago (I got better with practice) but I would ditch the red X and make it black all over the cp.  If you want to sell it, and you have a buyer GO FOR IT!!  and very well done too.

What these fallouts from KLOV do not understand is raw functionality.  I build for that and not for cosmetic value.  The cabinet knows it is getting the small hand axe after I tire from it, so why put lipstick on a pig?

The subject of games.  I used to be a huge advocate for copyright ownership.  But since the impact of p2p it is a pointless exercise.  I will not advise you to bundle a set of roms with your cabinet.  I will leave that to your own judgement.  What you can do is download all the royalty free games at mame.net.  Or you can email xgaming for their arcade disk.

On the subject of dissing peoples creation.  Well its in the rules, and if Saint doesn't enforce the rules or his mods, then it is a sad day indeed.  Besides you can always mute or tell them to ---fudgesicle--- off.

[Nitro0602]

Not scared off.. But this is too much drama for me.. I'm actually a very simple guy.. Thus my simplicity of a cabinet

I have come to terms that if you don't build it "their" way, then it's wrong. Which is total BS IMO.
Also these "big shots" want their ego's stroked among other things, which I'm not down for
Why would I feed the animals and post more pics?  We'll see I guess.. Prob not.

Believe it or not, have 2 more customers interested in a 4-player tankstick arcade.. If it works.. Why the heck would I change it...

Not a follower, my friend.

But I hope we don't scare you off. I'm dying to see your four-player Dual Tankstick holder.

[Caparo8bit]

Looks good a marquue will make it look better and  no no no to x-arcade control panel if I was you I close that hole and transfer all x-arcade components .  And here is my project...
and im also switching to led 32"

[chopperthedog]

Name calling.. That's just ignorant morons IMO who should go and 
Themselves.. 

moron, pathetic loser, haters, pathetic loosers, bunch of ass's, smucks, buffoons, pathetic smuck of a looser.

It's ironic that you have said all of the above within this thread. 


good day.

[Caparo8bit]

idea ( not the best since i used paint) and for the doors you can buy pushing looks for $2.00 ea

[yotsuya]

Name calling.. That's just ignorant morons IMO who should go and 
Themselves.. 

moron, pathetic loser, haters, pathetic loosers, bunch of ass's, smucks, buffoons, pathetic smuck of a looser.

It's ironic that you have said all of the above within this thread. 


good day.

You forgot spazzes, which was thrown out first after Grey_Area said it.

[Le Chuck]

I'll dip my toe in this pool...

I didn't see the OP ask for advice on his business model.  I did see the OP ask for advice on selling ROMS - and he received excellent feedback on that.  I think it was pretty clear from the start that this was not an attempt at a classic or custom one off cab but instead a way to play emu'd games in a cabinet at a reduced rate. 

When I see a cab like this I'll try to answer any questions the builder has (if they haven't already been well addressed) and then move on.  I'm not moving on because I'm better or don't like it, but because I'm here for different reasons.  By and large I'm not a seller and I build for vastly different motivations I suspect.  There is no value judgement on motivations by the way.  Getting into it with the OP about the build design and business acumen is asinine.  Caveat Emptor bishes.  Now if he opens a b/s/t thread and is marketing the thing that's different - but that wasn't this.  I don't understand the logic behind, "I'm trying to save you from other's mistakes" that Paige put forth when he has not one dog in the fight.  The tank stick does not violate any building layout issues that we try and correct on behalf of future players (angled sticks) and the cab design precludes the use of a CRT so most issues are moot from the start.  Is it simplistic and somewhat cookie cutter - yeah... but that's the point.

This thread is a ridiculous read because you have two groups of people that don't speak the same fundamental language talking about two different things - and everybody thinks they're communicating. 

[Nitro0602]

Ahhhh.. Looks really nice! Thanks for spending the time on this, much appreciated!
I did put a marquee on it, it was a marvel vs capcom on the first panel and the players below.. I'll find it and post it up.. Doors for sure ill change.. Don't get me wrong.. The self made arcade stick looks better then the tankstick,
But my concern is if any problems occur (buttons sticking), then I have to do a house call.. Whereas the customer can deal with xgaming directly or still bring it back to me for a new one and I can ship back...
But I totally understand what you mean.. It looks like one complete unit without the xarcade stick..
Mine looks like ikea furniture.. Lol which to be honest I was going for..

idea ( not the best since i used paint) and for the doors you can buy pushing looks for $2.00 ea

[PL1]

Reading the back and forth in this thread reminds me of the 2 thumbs vs. Superman trackball thread last year.      

My response now is the same as then.

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
--Author unknown, often attributed to Mark Twain

On the whole, neither side of this "discussion" has been a shining example of friendly forum behavior.

It wouldn't break my heart to see this thread consigned to Post Hell and for the parties on both sides of the argument to adopt a bit more of a to-each-their-own attitude.

Each of us can choose to act like a child or an adult -- and be judged by the forum community accordingly.




Scott

[Nitro0602]

110% I said those things.. But who threw the first punch? Thank you 
When I have 3-4 people attacking (not critiquing) me, I'm not take that  from anyone.. I hope other new board members and others see you guys for your true colors.
I will state it again.. I don't care how big you guys are in this forum or in the arcade industry, disrespect me and your garbage in my books.

Name calling.. That's just ignorant morons IMO who should go and 
Themselves.. 

moron, pathetic loser, haters, pathetic loosers, bunch of ass's, smucks, buffoons, pathetic smuck of a looser.

It's ironic that you have said all of the above within this thread. 


good day.

[mcseforsale]

I like pocket hinges myself (as you all may know), with a neat magnetic catch.  For me, I'd do one door that swings out like on the gunslinger.  IMO, pocket hinges look pro.

Here's the hinge...from Lowes...about 6 bux apiece.  Just make sure they're "inset pocket hinges" for 3/4" panels:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_176461-93052-BP91M27521180U_0__?productId=3576268&Ntt=inset+cabinet+hinges





These dual strike popper thingies have some good punch, too.



I put a small hole handle thing on the front of the door (I used the 1" version).  Basically use a forstner bit to make a 1/2" deep hole and tap this in:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_113042-1277-837351_0__?productId=3354652&Ntt=gatehouse+cup+pull&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dgatehouse%2Bcup%2Bpull&facetInfo=

This is how it looks opened. 


As for the thread itself, I dont' care if you sell these for a million a piece...but calling people haters, etc won't get you any fans around these parts.  Not sure how old you are, but you are indeed dealing with a bunch of grumpy old farts for the most part.  Some here were hanging out in arcades and pool halls in the 60s and 70s (me in the early 80s).

As for tanksticks, I've never had one or held one in my hands.  To me they're silly since building a tankstick is probably cheaper with better components, but that's just me.

AJ

idea ( not the best since i used paint) and for the doors you can buy pushing looks for $2.00 ea

[mcseforsale]

Oh, and P.P.S,

Scott,
Is there anything Rush can't solve?

AJ

[PL1]

Is there anything Rush can't solve?

It's their "Mission" in life.   

"Entre Nous", AJ, I'm just doing the "Best I Can" under these "Circumstances" to bring some perspective to the bad "Chemistry" between the "Subdivisions" in this thread.

"For What It's Worth", new guys shouldn't automatically blow off the "Lessons" learned by old timers and it should be "Second Nature" for the old timers to make sure their "Distant Early Warning" doesn't leave "Scars" even if they think that someone is "Losing It" or proposing "Heresy".

Not that old timers need to use "Kid Gloves" when posting, but that is a "Far Cry" from not keeping personal attacks under "Lock and Key".

If OP can make "The Big Money" selling these Tankstick cabs to satisfied customers, then "You Bet Your Life" it's fine for him do do so.

Hopefully folks will skip the "Bravado", wash off the "War Paint", respect the "Freewill" of others, and think about "What You're Doing" to contribute to the community with your posts "Before & After" they go up.

If someone else's posts are so annoying that you can't "Leave That Thing Alone" maybe you should take a walk in a "Lakeside Park" and relax for a while.

Maybe then we can "Turn the Page" on this kerfuffle and "Presto" . . . Saint can rule once again over a "Peaceable Kingdom".


Scott

P.S. For anyone who doesn't understand the odd formatting, click here.   

P.P.S. This is post #2200 for me -- it would have been perfect 88 posts ago.   

[mcseforsale]

That was stunning.   

See, I was right.  Rush can fix anything.

AJ

[mike_bike_kite]

If you just want to put a game on it that people can play then you could try my Alien Swarm game. It looks like an old fashioned arcade game but doesn't have the legal issues. It can be called from MAME but unfortunately at the moment you need Java on your computer. It uses normal MAME controls and can operate with coins, local high scores etc.

Mike

[yotsuya]

You couldn't work in Tom Sawyer and Spirit of Radio? FAIL!!!

[Le Chuck]

ZOMHFG PL1

Best post evar! Ehrmahgerd!  Rush!

[DGP]

If you just want to put a game on it that people can play then you could try my Alien Swarm game. It looks like an old fashioned arcade game but doesn't have the legal issues. It can be called from MAME but unfortunately at the moment you need Java on your computer. It uses normal MAME controls and can operate with coins, local high scores etc.

Mike

Or Grid Wars 2. 


That RUSH anecdote was epic!!!

Jason

[PL1]

You couldn't work in Tom Sawyer and Spirit of Radio? FAIL!!!

Nowhere in the post does it say that those were my favorite songs of theirs.

Since you've hurled down the gauntlet, how would you work those titles in and make them flow -- "Show Don't Tell" or the FAIL is all yours.    

ZOMHFG PL1

Best post evar! Ehrmahgerd!  Rush!

That RUSH anecdote was epic!!!

Thanks guys.   


Scott

[rpgposer]

I can't believe that whippersnapper called me a jealous, grumpy old man.

[CoryBee]

I can't believe that whippersnapper called me a jealous, grumpy old man.

 

*FIXED*

[mgb]

Scott,
  I guess it's fair to say that By-Tor & Snowdog could not worked into that post at all?

[shponglefan]

I can't believe that whippersnapper called me a jealous, grumpy old man.

He also called you a "looser".  Looser than what, I'm not sure, but there ya go...   

[PL1]

Scott,
  I guess it's fair to say that By-Tor & Snowdog could not worked into that post at all?

Like Yotsuya's non-response when the challenge was tossed back to him -- there's not a "Ghost of a Chance" even if you had been racking the "Hemispheres" of your brain since fifteen days ago on. . . well, you get the idea.   


Scott

[harveybirdman]

and yet again, a CoryBee customer has a terrible idea...

[mcseforsale]

 

and yet again, a CoryBee customer has a terrible idea...

[CoryBee]

and yet again, a CoryBee customer has a terrible idea...

Vou petite baise sournois!!!!! 

[Rick]

Like Yotsuya's non-response when the challenge was tossed back to him -- there's not a "Ghost of a Chance" even if you had been racking the "Hemispheres" of your brain since fifteen days ago on. . . well, you get the idea.   

I personally think you should Take off! (To the Great White North!)

(And yes, Geddy Lee equals Rush in this instance.)

[mgb]

and yet again, a CoryBee customer has a terrible idea...

And how about Alex Lifeson on the other side with Neal Peart on the CPO and John Rutsey on the rear side.

[chopperthedog]

Since this thread has completely derailed lemmie throw a curve ball. I enjoy the Permanent Waves album in small doses but can't take on rush as a whole. The one thing from Neil that tickled my fancy was the "Burning for Buddy" thing he produced and played on back in 94. I got into it around 96 when I snagged the 2 cd and 2 vhs set its so cool to have the video archives of some badass drummers and like the best horn players in the world in one place for the song takes.




This is great tune, Plus how often do you see Neil behind only 4 drums wearing a Beavis and Butt-head shirt?




Now, this song has been my favorite buddy rich composition of all time. So cool that it's the first track on the tribute and Simon Phillips tears that s*h*i*t up. The timing play between him and the bass player throughout the song is amazing along with the onslaught from the brass section to.


good day.