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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #680 on: December 11, 2018, 10:12:09 pm »
Bill Bickers sells jukebox capacitor kits.

http://www.jukeboxfridaynight.com/kits.html

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #681 on: December 29, 2018, 08:51:07 pm »
Hey everyone!

New to jukeboxes. I recently fixed up a R85 to working condition. And I was soooooooo stoked. Recently,when I turned it on... I picked a selection: it's now playing .5 to 1 seconds then instantly rejecting it and putting it back in the drum. It's quite cold in the garage, I may put a small heater in there to see if it's a cap issue, as suggested by some other generous, and more knowledgable, members.
I am so lost as to what to do now. Thank you all for your help.

Sincerely,
Brian (USA)

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #682 on: January 02, 2019, 04:52:37 pm »
Good afternoon everyone. I'm new to the jukebox world and in need of some advice. This seems like the best place to get it.
I recently purchased a Rowe CD-100C and after a full initialize, it now has trouble initializing some discs. I manually initialized them, so I no longer get the 'not alwd in NI' message, but those same discs will not play. The mechanism will place the disc, it will spin up, then spin backward, then it is replaced in the carousel. This happens twice and then it gives up. Other discs work fine with no skipping. The problem discs look undamaged and will play in a different player. I suspect the laser assembly is borderline.
The laser assembly is a CDM4, which I understand is obsolete and parts unavailable. I have a relatively small budget for this project, so the complete CDM4 assemblies I've seen on ebay for 300-600 USD are out of the question.
I have, however, located chinese replacement CDM4/19 transports on ebay and am wondering if this would be a direct replacement and if there would be setup adjustments to perform after replacement.
Any guidance anyone could offer would be appreciated.
Cheers
Colin (Canada)

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #683 on: January 04, 2019, 01:09:58 pm »
Hello
Ive just purchased a Rowe-Ami R-87 which has a few problems..

There is no sound coming from the bottom speakers (they appear to be wired up)

The sound is only coming out of the upper ones!

The balance control also appears not to be working, could all this be connected to a ifyy amp?

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #684 on: January 06, 2019, 06:39:55 pm »
check the crossover board (got a bunch of coils, capacitors, and resistors on it... it's near the amp), quite often they get broken solder joints on them from all the vibrations.

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #685 on: January 20, 2019, 06:26:09 am »
hello my cd100e plays strong on one channel but other is weak and static...  the wires off the output transformer is correct
blk on e1
purp on left e7
pink on right e7
...  if I swap the purp and pink wires the issue follows the purp wire.... which ever side I put it on that side is weak or out....
question does this narrow the issue to the amp?, output trans?, crossover? .....  thnx for input in advance..

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #686 on: January 20, 2019, 06:10:03 pm »
sounds like crossover or speaker issue.

if pink sounds fine on either left or right E7 terminal, that eliminates the amp and anything upstream from it (cables, CD unit, transformer, amp, etc)

i'll wager it's the crossover. Check it for broken solder joints. the vibrations from the music will often break the connections from the big heavy components used on them.


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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #687 on: January 24, 2019, 08:24:52 pm »
Hi.  My cousin has a CD100C which previously had a CD loading problem, but someone trying to fix it moved the plugs on P1-P4 on the CCC while it wasn't switched to service mode, so now the display, carousel etc do nothing at all while the board error, system error and 5v lights are on, and the rowelink light stays off and does not even flash when first turned on.  But the problem is, the CCC, the mech board, the display have all been tested in another machine and all work fine.    Any ideas of what area to look in would be good as it seems nothing is communicating with any other components but the rowelink cable from ccc to mech is fine also. Thanks

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #688 on: January 25, 2019, 07:46:43 am »
Hello Tman,

I would check out the Power Supply (junction box) to make sure that all yhe power rails are present. You may also have to check out all the connections on the looms to mke sure that all the connections are making contact.

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #689 on: January 26, 2019, 07:09:35 am »
Hi ami-man.  The power supply seemed to be ok when I had tested it and I had gone over the plugs and removed the wires which didn't seem to be tight and re set them.  I only have a cd-100a manual to look at which looks like the display/keyboard interface was on the CCC originally in the A model.   I was thinking that maybe with this unit having having the seperate title rack keyboard interface assembly that there may be a chance that it also has something to do with the display interface and data is sent to the display with via that module, as I am pretty sure he never had that module tested where he got the other parts tested in another machine but without the correct manual to look at the diagrams for his model CCC I am not sure.  Apart from that I guess I might have to go over every wire one by one when he gets hold of the correct manual for me.  Thanks

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #690 on: January 29, 2019, 04:31:39 am »
Hi Alan.  My cousin was told the 40832225 CCC he has is not compatible with the 61086201 mech decoder for the CDM12 he has, and that he needs a 61048101.  My understanding is the 61086201 is used when someone has upgraded from a CDM3 or CDM4 to the CDM12, and that the 61048101 is for the original CDM4 which he doesn't have, but like I told my cousin, if it wasn't compatible it would never of worked to begin with and I don't want him to waste any money using the jukebox repair man who told him not to take any notice of rowe's update guide saying its the right mech decoder for a CDM12.  Thanks

Travis

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #691 on: January 31, 2019, 08:26:06 pm »
Hi Everyone. I've learned so much reading this forum as a guest. Thanks so much. I hope someone will be able to help me with a problem with my R86. It had been working fine but last time I turned it on it immediately began to play the record at the location where the carousel was when I turned it on, and would play the record through, replace it, and then immediately replay the same record. Nothing I could think of could stop it doing this.
I swapped out the Optical switch, and the Mechanism Control with a R85 - the R86 items worked in the R85. Then I swapped out the CCC 6-08870-01 and the R85 one worked fine in the R86 and it was back to normal.
Maybe I've isolated the R86 problem to the CCC, but now I'm completely out of my depth. I trust I've explained this well enough for someone to know where to point me next.
Thanks for your time and help!
David
Honest, it was working. I didn't touch anything - much.

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #692 on: February 01, 2019, 06:41:30 am »
Hello David,

Welcome to the forum.

It would seem that your R-86 CCC is faulty or there could have been dry joints to the connection pins if the problem has gone away.

You need to send the CCC out of your R-86 for testing/repair, there is AB Leisure in the USA or myself in the UK that test/repair these boards.

Regards
Alan

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #693 on: February 01, 2019, 07:38:35 am »
Thank you, Alan. I've mailed you.
David
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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #694 on: February 11, 2019, 11:29:46 am »
Hello, Just acquired 1973 AMI RI-1 Heritage, prior to what I thought easy and harmless transport to final location was working well. Now all mechanisms working well except that the turn table does not spin. I am thinking perhaps jarred wire/fuse loose during transport.
Where would I find fuse location to start ?
 any and all help/suggestions appreaciated

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #695 on: February 12, 2019, 07:13:46 am »
Hello TJB,

The turntable motor is 115/120 volts a direct drive motor that drives a idlerwheel against the turntable.
There is a miscroswitch on the transfer motor camswiches that operates the tuntable motor. More than likely there will be an issue with the idlerwheel linkage or idlerwheel.

Regards
Alan

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