"The 90's Arcade Racer" kickstarter - interesting game in development

[isamu]

The '90s Arcade Racer' is going to be emulated on MAME before it's released on the Steam at the rate its going. 

LOL^

[BadMouth]

Antonis says we have they byoac logo rotating atop a structure on the oval track and on an airplane at the airport track.  It just hasn't turned up in pics.   

[BadMouth]

This is the logo we submitted (drawn by Ond).....

[Nuexzz]

This is not an update . It is an announcement of The TakeOver

[pinkimo]

The opponents are way too slow, it's closer to avoiding traffic in Need for Speed than overtaking opponents in Daytona USA. The cars have to be faster (and probably less spaced to be able to overtake all of them).

[BadMouth]

I debated on whether or not to bump this thread for an update containing no information, but I guess it's better than silence.

Pelikan13 says:

Hello,

this is an email to all backers.

I know it's been a while since our last update and for that I apologize but I want you to be certain that we are
 working hard to get the 90s Arcade Racer ready for release as soon as possible.

It goes on to offer a steam key for The Takeover beat em up game to any backers who contact him.

meh.

EDIT:  I downloaded and played "The TakeOver" beat 'em up.  I really like it.  I have to get up early in the morning and stayed up later than I should have trying to beat the stage 1 boss.
It pushes my streets of rage buttons.  It's purty, has good music, and the moves are simple to pull off.
In the early access game there is only one playable character.  He's been given a different color shirt, holsters and gun so he doesn't look quite as much like Cody or Guy.
The game has a gun play mechanic that I like.  You have a gun and can collect bullets and use the gun, but you're frozen in place when you draw it.
It doesn't do much more damage than your fists, so it doesn't alter the gameplay too much.
There's only one stage as of now.  It's fairly long and divided into three sections with a boss at the end. 

I like it, but given the lack of progress on the 90's arcade racer though, I wouldn't hand over any money until it is complete.

[BadMouth]

Had some time to kill, so searched for any updates on this.

Seems Nicalis had the game listed on their website rebranded as 90's Super GP for PS4 and XBox one with a fall 2016 release date.
The link is dead now and the site shows it as the original Wii U and PC game.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/90s_arcade_racer_hits_the_pits_for_name_change_no_longer_listed_for_wii_u_release

We’ve contacted both Nicalis and Pelekanos to get clarification on the news and will update this article when we hear back.

So basically no info, but at least it is not completely forgotten.
If they'd stuck to the original concept of a truly arcade style PC game with only a few cars and a few tracks, I wonder if it would have gotten done.
The art assets exist.  Hopefully someday someone who knows what they are doing will put them to use. 

EDIT: Update with some people in the comment section doing some digging: http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/257447-90s-arcade-racer-no-longer-listed-for-wii-u-release

[Fursphere]

That's interesting as the Wii U is basically dead.  Nintendo is rumor'd to release the Nintendo NX this winter. 

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah as much as I love Nintendo, they literally invented the 5 year hardware cycle.  So if you are just starting on a game around year 2 or 3, there really isn't any point. 

FYI it's not a rumor and that isn't the rumor. 

The NX will be released in the spring of next year.  The Zelda game that never materialized is getting a release on both the Wii U and NX similar to how they did twilight princess on the ngc and wii.  With Star Fox Zero being the last first party game the Wii U IS dead... and remember who you are talking to.  It's a shame because what Nintendo did manage to release on the Wii U was utterly fantastic..... it's just you can't keep a console afloat with two games a year. 

I mean maybe we could all build a racing game.  Byoac should have enough programmers and artists lying around. 

[charliew]

According to this site it could have been false information.
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/257447-90s-arcade-racer-no-longer-listed-for-wii-u-release

I couldn't care less for the Wii U release or any of the other platforms besides the PC version.

[MrThunderwing]

If they'd stuck to the original concept of a truly arcade style PC game with only a few cars and a few tracks, I wonder if it would have gotten done..

^This. If they hadn't ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- around with what they were going to put in the game so much, and what platforms they were going to release it on, we might've actually got it by now. I think we collectively predicted that by the time the game actually got released that the Wii U would be well on it way to obsoletion.

[eds1275]

I
'm glad I didn't flush my money down the toilet back this game. But if you are bored, the comments section is pretty funny:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/896834116/the-90s-arcade-racer/posts/1388987

[BadMouth]

Time for the periodic bump and whine.    

I came across this article which sums things up, but doesn't really contain any more information:
http://cliqist.com/2016/08/23/90s-arcade-racers-bizarre-journey/

One of the replies includes an August 1st tweet by Nicalis though:




Maybe it will actually make it to Steam.
I don't see it listed yet.

[eds1275]

One of the replies includes an August 1st tweet by Nicalis though:




Maybe it will actually make it to Steam.
I don't see it listed yet.

except they aren't back!

[MrThunderwing]

I'm so ---smurfing--- sick of waiting for this game.

[Howard_Casto]

I'm tellin ya.  Unity is open-source..... we could just make one as a community.  It might not be great initially, but we are all nuts who put way too much time into this hobby, so it could be continually worked on. 

[Boomslang]

https://steamdb.info/app/260830/history/

this is it on steam, kinda hidden at the moment though

[yotsuya]

Interesting read,  thanks for the link BM.

[isamu]

I'm so ---smurfing--- sick of waiting for this game.

pretty much sums up my thoughts.

[Fursphere]

I love how they delayed the release of this game to to get it on the Wii U (an almost dead platform when that decision was made...)

And now the Nintendo NX is almost out, and this still isn't out.   oh well.    thats the life of vaporware.

[thomas_surles]

I hope it gets a wii u release. We really need a couple more games before it dies. I'm still waiting on yooka laylee!

[Boomslang]

Antonis is an ---uvula---. Guy makes a kickstarter and its been a nightmare from the start nearly, pretty much ignored all his backers. Ive sent numerous pm's to him and ive never had a reply once, even sent him a message a couple months ago asking for a refund and he still ignored it.

Seems like hes just taken the 90s arcade racer funds and put it towards his own game which he released, beyond a joke and pretty much made me never want to use kickstarter ever again. Although I did back Shenmue III as that is a guaranteed release and not run by a jackass in his own house

[buttersoft]

Man, even I'm sick to death of the ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- and the waiting, and i've only known about the game for two weeks. It's just so impossible to say what's actually going on. There's all this footage, all these gorgeous tracks that just keep evolving, and i want to find out more! I also want to play it on my retro driving setups, so will need 480p modes, and i worry that this is going to be too high-def to run for me.

[Howard_Casto]

Antonis is an ---uvula---. Guy makes a kickstarter and its been a nightmare from the start nearly, pretty much ignored all his backers. Ive sent numerous pm's to him and ive never had a reply once, even sent him a message a couple months ago asking for a refund and he still ignored it.

Seems like hes just taken the 90s arcade racer funds and put it towards his own game which he released, beyond a joke and pretty much made me never want to use kickstarter ever again. Although I did back Shenmue III as that is a guaranteed release and not run by a jackass in his own house

I can't say I didn't warn people.  The whole concept of kickstarter rubs me the wrong way.  If you have a good idea and a good business reputation then you should be able to get investors for a project.  If you have to turn to kickstarter then something is off.  I wouldn't even give to Shenmue III.  Mighty Number 9, a project lead by a famous game developer, was a disaster.  So far the spiritual successor to Castlevania is going down the same path.  I don't even have to mention Tim Schafer.

Long story short, the jerky producers and accountants and business types are usually part of the equation for a reason. 

I think for very small projects with very modest goals kickstarter could be a wonderful tool, but it seems like 99 projects out of 100 have goals that are well beyond the reach of the people trying to produce them.  It's fine to dream big.... until you take people's money. 

I think I might play around with unity or a similar open-source engine.  If I can manage a decent base I'll release it for free and open-source so it can be worked on by more competent people. 

[eds1275]

Yeah Kickstarter is an online begging platform.

For example thius unicorn hat gets funded:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/487340101/unicorn-hat/description

But then backers expect gifts and other perks, which is silly because shouldn't the money go towards the project and not making buttons nobody will wear?

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah that's certainly part of the problem as well.  Gifts that don't cost the project any real time or money like a digital copy of the game or a some sort of digital thank you is ok, but kickstarter isn't a way to purchase anything. 

[Howard_Casto]

Antonis is an ---uvula---. Guy makes a kickstarter and its been a nightmare from the start nearly, pretty much ignored all his backers. Ive sent numerous pm's to him and ive never had a reply once, even sent him a message a couple months ago asking for a refund and he still ignored it.

Seems like hes just taken the 90s arcade racer funds and put it towards his own game which he released, beyond a joke and pretty much made me never want to use kickstarter ever again. Although I did back Shenmue III as that is a guaranteed release and not run by a jackass in his own house

I think the best course of action might be to get together with as many of the backers as possible and form a class-action lawsuit.  People will continue to get took via kickstarter until enough project heads get sued.  For me "laywer" is a dirty word, but enough is enough. 

[ghoolster]

If they can't or don't want to finish this game, they should release what they have done and let the community at it.

In Nov it'll be 3 years late, this is really taking the urine...

[Fursphere]

Antonis is an ---uvula---. Guy makes a kickstarter and its been a nightmare from the start nearly, pretty much ignored all his backers. Ive sent numerous pm's to him and ive never had a reply once, even sent him a message a couple months ago asking for a refund and he still ignored it.

Seems like hes just taken the 90s arcade racer funds and put it towards his own game which he released, beyond a joke and pretty much made me never want to use kickstarter ever again. Although I did back Shenmue III as that is a guaranteed release and not run by a jackass in his own house

I think the best course of action might be to get together with as many of the backers as possible and form a class-action lawsuit.  People will continue to get took via kickstarter until enough project heads get sued.  For me "laywer" is a dirty word, but enough is enough.

From the kickstart page....

700 backers pledged £16,039 to help bring this project to life.

That's just shy of $21,000 US today (no idea what it was 3 years ago).    That's a $30 refund per backer, assuming the money was recovered.   Then add lawyer fees, and the backers will probably end up getting nothing. 

So...  hardly worth going after.   Better would be to sue Kickstarter themselves for creating a platform that promotes fraud.  (and before you think that is crazy, look what the US has done to Megaupload)

[Boomslang]

It's the lack of communication that does my head in more then anything

He could just keep backers somewhat informed, even if it was just saying 'sorry, nothing really to report. Small work being done on bugfixing'

ANYTHING!!

Its been nearly 12 months since his last update and we have had barely anything since except a small twitter message a month or 2 back from the publisher guys which makes it seem like its still being made or potentially coming out

Who really knows at this point

obviously i would love the game to come out, I was really excited 3 years ago about this game, not so much anymore but it could surprise i suppose

[Howard_Casto]

Antonis is an ---uvula---. Guy makes a kickstarter and its been a nightmare from the start nearly, pretty much ignored all his backers. Ive sent numerous pm's to him and ive never had a reply once, even sent him a message a couple months ago asking for a refund and he still ignored it.

Seems like hes just taken the 90s arcade racer funds and put it towards his own game which he released, beyond a joke and pretty much made me never want to use kickstarter ever again. Although I did back Shenmue III as that is a guaranteed release and not run by a jackass in his own house

I think the best course of action might be to get together with as many of the backers as possible and form a class-action lawsuit.  People will continue to get took via kickstarter until enough project heads get sued.  For me "laywer" is a dirty word, but enough is enough.

From the kickstart page....

700 backers pledged £16,039 to help bring this project to life.

That's just shy of $21,000 US today (no idea what it was 3 years ago).    That's a $30 refund per backer, assuming the money was recovered.   Then add lawyer fees, and the backers will probably end up getting nothing. 

So...  hardly worth going after.   Better would be to sue Kickstarter themselves for creating a platform that promotes fraud.  (and before you think that is crazy, look what the US has done to Megaupload)

Oh people who file a class-action suit rarely get any money back.  What you get is justice. 

[Fursphere]

Kickstarter (the company) itself is making a lot of money.  It would probably be a good target for a large lawfirm.

[MrThunderwing]

I've just found a link at the bottom of the page for the Kickstarter to report it. I've clicked the bit about lack of communication and blah blah etc etc. Maybe if enough of us who've backed the project complain about it to Kickstarter it might give Pelikan the kick up the arse he needs to either tells us what's going on with the project or actually start dishing out some refunds.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/896834116/the-90s-arcade-racer/description

[Fursphere]

I was wondering what the state of this project was and did a little googling.  I haven't thought about it in a long, long time.  (i just recently brought my driving cabinet back from the dead..  hehe)

Apparently the project is officially dead.

http://cliqist.com/2016/08/23/90s-arcade-racers-bizarre-journey/

So the author made some money, signed on with a publishing company who probably own the rights to a game that never got released (and possibly a name change...?).  And the kickstarters who help fund it get nothing. 

[telonio]

I was about to bulit a sidown arcade cabinet just for this game. So many months passed without any update i am very disappointed. The creator didn't refund the backers so far?

[eds1275]

I think I called it a few times.

[Nuexzz]

Nicalis, Inc.
2 de agosto de 2016 ·
Blue Skies and arcade racing are back! Ready for your Rolling Start with '90s Arcade Racer?

After almost a year .. I do not understand why I publish this (nicalis embarrasses me)

 if only some guys from here, mame team, bart, elsemi.
Create perfect games !!
When is going to be the day that people who know games .. do you play games?
Did you see any nicalis developer driving like us

[Nuexzz]

Always thought that the car 13 that is seen in the image, is quite poor (few polygons, crushed"Looks like an android gaming car") the game should not be as great as it looks in pictures.

These people do not know about driving games, they should come here to ask.


I'M ANGRY

[Shekel]

After almost a year .. I do not understand why I publish this (nicalis embarrasses me)

 if only some guys from here, mame team, bart, elsemi.
Create perfect games !!
When is going to be the day that people who know games .. do you play games?
Did you see any nicalis developer driving like us

I don't understand what you're saying.

[isamu]

I think I called it a few times.

Howard called it ages ago. In fact he called it as soon as it was announced that Nicalis got involved. I'm assuming the backers don't have a case and are SOL. At least we got our emulators.