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Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« on: September 22, 2012, 01:58:28 am »
I recently got an Omni2 joystick from GGG and while overall I really like the feel of it, I am getting a bit of bounce back when letting go of the stick or on quick direction changes.  What I mean is if I am going right and I switch to left quickly and then center the stick by letting go it will bounce back and activate the right switch again briefly.  This has already caused me quite a few deaths in several games.   Is there an easy way to adjust this?

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 09:20:27 am »
what games is this happening with? I know if i use Happ's for pacman and frogger i get the same thing thats why i go with a 4 way leaf switch!

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 09:26:20 am »
Pretty much every game.

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 09:38:37 am »
I would experiment with other sticks. Is the omni in a control panel yet What stages are you at with building your cabinet or control panel!!

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 10:22:28 am »
It's not in there yet, but will be soon.  For this build I really need a 4-8way that I can adjust on the fly and from the reviews the omni2 seemed like the best choice.  I have it mounted in a cardboard box for the time being so I can get my computer set up and it is pretty solid.

It just seems like to me that the centering spring isn't quite strong enough to keep the stick from going past center.

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 10:24:47 am »
Have you emailed RandyT about the issue?  He is very responsive and has a good track record or either walking OPs through a fix or sending out a part if needed. 

FWIW I have two OMNI2s and have never had a bounce back so you may have gotten a bad spring or something may be put together wrong.

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 11:49:27 am »
No I haven't contacted him yet.  I wanted to see if others had this problem before I sent him a message.  I will do that today.  Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2012, 11:58:58 am »
It's not in there yet, but will be soon.  For this build I really need a 4-8way that I can adjust on the fly and from the reviews the omni2 seemed like the best choice.  I have it mounted in a cardboard box for the time being so I can get my computer set up and it is pretty solid.

It just seems like to me that the centering spring isn't quite strong enough to keep the stick from going past center.

First thing to do is try it in a real panel.  Judging performance based on being mounted in cardboard really isn't the correct thing to do.  Cardboard flexes, which means that the spring effect of the cardboard is adding momentum to the return. 

Second, if you find that the deadzone is not large enough for your particular play style (we ship them adjusted to be very responsive, as that is how most will want them to be) you can adjust this yourself by simply bending the actuator blade on the switch a small bit.  This can be done without dismantling the stick by pressing on the metal blade with a thin screwdriver, through the restrictor hole.  Do it just a little at a  time until the deadzone is correct for the way you wish to play.

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Re: Onmi2 joystick bounce problem
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 01:32:57 pm »
I know this may seem Obvious.. But dont let go of the stick.   Just ease off your grip if you need, and guide it back - stopping it when you want / need.   

 There's no reason to let go, unless you are finished with the game.

 That would be like taking your feet off the gas and brake, when in the middle of a race, while driving an F1 car.

 If sticks were made to a spec in which they couldnt bounce back... they would be too stiff to move easily... and or the the spring wouldnt be strong enough to return to center at all.