can i use the GGG coin drop buttons?

[thaddeussmith]

in place of the standard Happ coin return push button assembly? It seems like they are meant for new construction cabinets that may not have a coin door, but I'm retrofitting MAME into a neogeo cab and would love to use these as my coin1 and coin2 buttons, while still maintaining some realism to the door without the addition of more buttons.

the ipac has shift functions for coin, but i'd like to keep the number of shift functions to a minimum.

[mcseforsale]

Why not just rig up some cherry switches to activate when you press the existing coin returns?  I'm thinking of doing that myself.

AJ

[MaxVolume]

in place of the standard Happ coin return push button assembly? It seems like they are meant for new construction cabinets that may not have a coin door, but I'm retrofitting MAME into a neogeo cab and would love to use these as my coin1 and coin2 buttons, while still maintaining some realism to the door without the addition of more buttons.

the ipac has shift functions for coin, but i'd like to keep the number of shift functions to a minimum.

To actually answer your question, no, you can't.  These aren't actual coin reject buttons, they are simply (HAPP?) illuminated buttons (VLT buttons?) that have similar artwork under the lens, including a representation of a coin slot.  You could do as AJ suggested and simply mount switches behind the coin return buttons of your cabinet, but depending on how the coin door's reject mechanism works, it might be difficult to position a switch where it will be closed by the mechanism yet still preserve its original functionality.

Actually, let me backtrack a bit... yes, you CAN use these as "Coin 1" and "Coin 2", and depending on how much you are willing to modify your coin door you CAN mount them where the original reject buttons would be, but NO, they are not just drop-in replacements for the HAPP coin reject assembly.

[thaddeussmith]

the switch comment got me thinking - and I ended up getting this for both my pc power switch and coin 1, coin 2 buttons. Will mount it just inside the coin door:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380438833949&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160#ht_806wt_1342

to clarify, i've gutted the coin mech from the doors and was curious if the GGG buttons would fit in the same space as the happ coin return buttons or if they would just look stupid, not fit, etc. I'm just going to put some fresh coin return buttons in there for the sake of appearances.

[mcseforsale]

Can RandyT perhaps provide the dimensions of the buttons?  They may look just fine.  It's actually a good solution if it works.

AJ

the switch comment got me thinking - and I ended up getting this for both my pc power switch and coin 1, coin 2 buttons. Will mount it just inside the coin door:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380438833949&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160#ht_806wt_1342

to clarify, i've gutted the coin mech from the doors and was curious if the GGG buttons would fit in the same space as the happ coin return buttons or if they would just look stupid, not fit, etc. I'm just going to put some fresh coin return buttons in there for the sake of appearances.

[PL1]

Can RandyT perhaps provide the dimensions of the buttons?  They may look just fine.  It's actually a good solution if it works.

AJ

*Ahem*  AJ, have you tried looking here yet?   



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Scott

[mcseforsale]

Hahahahahaha.  I feel like a 

AJ

Can RandyT perhaps provide the dimensions of the buttons?  They may look just fine.  It's actually a good solution if it works.

AJ

*Ahem*  AJ, have you tried looking here yet?   



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Scott

[mcseforsale]

OK, so after a cursory measurement on my coin door (also Happ over/under), you can probably use the bezel/slot piece, remove the original coin-return, dremel out the coin slot to make it an even hole, then using longer screws and some sort of backplate, mount these buttons over the hole created by the removal of the return plungers and dremel-ing out the slots.

Simple measurements are 1 5/16" from the outer edge of the slot and 1 1/2" tall.

OR, buy some kydex and make a new plate for each one, mount the switch to the kydex square, removing the entire coin slot/return with its bezel (2 screws), mounting it in place of that.  Make sense? 

http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Kydex?gclid=CPaCq6a3yrECFYOc7QodllMAOA

You can probably source kydex at lowe's or something...

Dibs on the original coin return plungers depending on color

AJ

Can RandyT perhaps provide the dimensions of the buttons?  They may look just fine.  It's actually a good solution if it works.

AJ

*Ahem*  AJ, have you tried looking here yet?   



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Scott

[mcseforsale]

Actually, to go even more cheaper-er, I'd go down to the local Radio Shack and buy a project box and just use the cover.  Cut the cover into a couple of appropriate squares (just big enough to cover the holes left by the removal of the coin slot/return and it's bezel) and then drill holes in it to mount the GGG coin buttons and in turn mount those to the coin door.

http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=project%20box&origkw=project+box&sr=1

AJ

[PL1]

You can probably source kydex at lowe's or something...

Nope, too specialized for Lowes, Home Depot, or Menards.

Amazon has a variety of sizes, thicknesses, and colors available.

Detailed tutorial on how to work with kydex at http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-carry-holsters-carry-options/39371-make-your-own-kydex-holster.html


Scott

[RandyT]

in place of the standard Happ coin return push button assembly? It seems like they are meant for new construction cabinets that may not have a coin door, but I'm retrofitting MAME into a neogeo cab and would love to use these as my coin1 and coin2 buttons, while still maintaining some realism to the door without the addition of more buttons.

I have seen this done, but for the life of me, I can't find the photo.  The individual who did what you are considering did a very clean job of retrofitting the buttons to the coin slots on the door and it looked like it was meant to be that way.  But they are not "drop-in" compatible and I imagine it took some work to get it looking that nice.  I'm always impressed at what folks do with our parts.

That being said, if I could get some exact dimensions from someone for the mounting holes in the standard doors, I'd be happy to look at offering an "adapter plate" option for this type of application.  Our laser is more than capable of making a nice part to simplify this approach.

RandyT

[Ginsu Victim]

Maybe you could make a hard plastic MAME coindoor that has no coin function, but has coin rejects that work as coin buttons? I bet that would sell decent.

[mcseforsale]

But, can you mount it to a frickin' shark's head?  Does it go "pew pew pew" when you fire it?  If not, I'm not interested...

AJ

 

in place of the standard Happ coin return push button assembly? It seems like they are meant for new construction cabinets that may not have a coin door, but I'm retrofitting MAME into a neogeo cab and would love to use these as my coin1 and coin2 buttons, while still maintaining some realism to the door without the addition of more buttons.

I have seen this done, but for the life of me, I can't find the photo.  The individual who did what you are considering did a very clean job of retrofitting the buttons to the coin slots on the door and it looked like it was meant to be that way.  But they are not "drop-in" compatible and I imagine it took some work to get it looking that nice.  I'm always impressed at what folks do with our parts.

That being said, if I could get some exact dimensions from someone for the mounting holes in the standard doors, I'd be happy to look at offering an "adapter plate" option for this type of application.  Our laser is more than capable of making a nice part to simplify this approach.

RandyT

[lilshawn]

Maybe you could make a hard plastic MAME coindoor that has no coin function, but has coin rejects that work as coin buttons? I bet that would sell decent.

shall we all talk about the coin door sticker again?

[PL1]

Wasn't going to mention it, but if he's already placing an order with GGG. . . .

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=89&products_id=308



Scott

[lilshawn]

didn't they have a coin door sticker at one time that didn't have the coin slots so you could drill 2 holes and install the buttons?

or am I just hallucinating? 

[PL1]

didn't they have a coin door sticker at one time that didn't have the coin slots so you could drill 2 holes and install the buttons?

or am I just hallucinating? 

Nothing wrong with your memory on this one.

The original thread from 2005:  http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,42623.msg392545.html#msg392545

The official announcement thread post where Randy mentioned that he planned to do another render of the door with a drilling template and coin drops omitted: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,70031.msg716042.html#msg716042

Offer to print CDR versions if requested in comments at checkout:
(Check with Randy before you try this.  Not sure if the offer is still valid.) http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,70031.msg717925.html#msg717925

Pictures of the sticker and CDRs installed on a cab: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,70031.msg719826.html#msg719826


Scott

[MaxVolume]

the switch comment got me thinking - and I ended up getting this for both my pc power switch and coin 1, coin 2 buttons. Will mount it just inside the coin door:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380438833949&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160#ht_806wt_1342

That's funny... I ordered the exact same thing to mount inside my coin door.   I was going to use it as Service Mode/Service Switch/TAB.  Using one of the buttons to boot your PC might work fine, but I'd advise against using the other two as Coin 1 and Coin 2.  If you've got a change machine or token dispenser, maybe, but I predict that it's gonna be quite a pain to keep opening the coin door every time you want to coin up, especially if you keep it locked and/or you can't remove the key when unlocked.  Obviously I'm the last one to advocate coin buttons on the control panel, but have you considered a "coin up" button/joystick combo?