Scratch - Marvel v Capcom: Revolution - Complete with tour video

[mcseforsale]

Yeah, then try a smoked plexi, like on the monitor.  Not sure how the vinyl will translate through it though.  Hmmmm.

Otherwise, this is one of the best cabs I've seen on here.

AJ

If I do the touch, I actually think I am going to go full embedded, it has to look like part of the CP however it ends up being attached.

More artwork enhancements and a better idea of the screen and how it will look embedded.

[yotsuya]

Yeah, then try a smoked plexi, like on the monitor.  Not sure how the vinyl will translate through it though.  Hmmmm.

If he uses smoked plexi, then how's he going to use the touchscreen capability of the tablet?

[Le Chuck]

Yeah, then try a smoked plexi, like on the monitor.  Not sure how the vinyl will translate through it though.  Hmmmm.

If he uses smoked plexi, then how's he going to use the touchscreen capability of the tablet?

Trans-capacitive plexi

Doy!

You can build it yourself with about 400 little squares of aluminum foil and a bunch of teeny tiny wires.

[mcseforsale]

Doh!  Hadn't realized it was a tablet.  I thought it was just a monitor. 

Still, though there's got to be a way.  that thing wouldn't last a minute in my house exposed like that.  it'd have koolaid or beer spilled all over it in minutes. 

AJ

[yotsuya]

Maybe I missed this, but did you ditch the cup holders?

[PL1]

Maybe I missed this, but did you ditch the cup holders?

*Ahem*

If this thread turns into the cupholder thread I'm going to kill myself and then everyone else who has mentioned teh word cup and/or holder.

Griff - For now, just make a list.  The spree can wait until after you finish the cab.   


Scott

[yotsuya]

Hey, it's a legitimate question! 

I'ver been following this thread, but I don't remember reading if he ditched the illuminated cupholders he was planning on.

[griffindodd]

I'm giving the cupholders the iPhone treatment from here on out, lots of rumors but knowone will really know until the great reveal. 

The screen was always a touchscreen, before it was a monitor, now it's probably going to be a tablet

[griffindodd]

You can build it yourself with about 400 little squares of aluminum foil and a bunch of teeny tiny wires.

HEY STOP GIVING AWAY MY PATENTED MANUFACTURING TECHNIQUES!!!!! 

[rablack97]

You beat me to it, the embedded way looks so much better.  The other way the Tablet looked like it didn't belong.

 

You now have $200.00 tablet in your CP....

Talk of beerholders is just insane at this point....Don't let the masses convince you that this is OK....

The day that frothy beverage spills on it and you post it.......Not a soul is gonna put in the $$$$$$ to help you fix it.

You will get AWE MAN, that sucks, so how you gonna fix that....
 

Going to timeout now...

[griffindodd]

If I did decide to embed I'd go with something cheaper as it would only be stuck in the control panel, for what I'd use it for strictly in the CP there's no need for anything crazy...

$75 shipped for a 7" Multitouch Ice Cream Sandwich tab, perfectly good for the job...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IRULU-7-Android-4-0-Tablet-PC-Multi-touch-Capacitive-Screen-A10-4GB-512MB-/300767336500?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D300760229581%26ps%3D54

If I could find a slick way to make it look embedded but be easily removable then i would consider the Nexus 7

[Le Chuck]

The day that frothy beverage spills on it and you post it.......Not a soul is gonna put in the $$$$$$ to help you fix it.

I hereby solemnly pledge $19 if this ever happens.  I arrived at this figure by the number of times the above has jizzed in his pants in this thread. 

PS, it's starting to smell a bit funky in here.

[rablack97]

If I did decide to embed I'd go with something cheaper as it would only be stuck in the control panel, for what I'd use it for strictly in the CP there's no need for anything crazy...

$75 shipped for a 7" Multitouch Tegra 2 with Ice Cream Sandwich, perfectly good for the job...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IRULU-7-Android-4-0-Tablet-PC-Multi-touch-Capacitive-Screen-A10-4GB-512MB-/300767336500?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D300760229581%26ps%3D54

If I could find a slick way to make it look embedded but be easily removable then i would consider the Nexus 7

Ask OND, he's real crafty with stuff like that.

The day that frothy beverage spills on it and you post it.......Not a soul is gonna put in the $$$$$$ to help you fix it.

I hereby solemnly pledge $19 if this ever happens.  I arrived at this figure by the number of times the above has jizzed in his pants in this thread. 

PS, it's starting to smell a bit funky in here.

Dear sir, i do not jizz in my trousers i simply mess them

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Ok so i just added to your pledging theory, Griff should have enough now to purchase an extra tablet now.....

P.S. Um and if your um "jizz" stinks, you might need to think about eating some healthier foods

Anyway, the man's cab is pretty damn sexy, so call it what you want.........beer or no beer, it's a damn fine cab....

I used damn twice there in case your tracking that tooo......

[griffindodd]

oops got my specs and tablets mixed up, updated to the actual link above

[griffindodd]

Worked out a system tonight that will give me easy insert/removal of the tab while also looking very integrated so that's that problem solved, it's going to take some precision routing but that's fun to attempt anyway.

Going to hang on and see what Apple announce on Oct 23rd, seems like a 7" iPad is on the horizon, interesting to see if they position it at the $199 mark.

[griffindodd]

Just when I thought the cab build was finished...



M2900S-BN - 29" Long Stretched LCD Monitor
1366x480 (WXGA) Native Resolution
1,000:1 Digital Fine Contrast Ratio (DFC)
450 cd/m2 Brightness

$214 on eBay 

[yotsuya]

Griffin, bro, I love you, but you are quickly becoming the  of Feature Creep! 

[griffindodd]

Yeah i really dont care too much, the whole project is an adventure in creativity and evolves as I go, nothing is set in stone.

[rablack97]

No that's a hell of a find, those retail for around 1,200 bucks.

The only thing i'm wondering if it's gonna be overkill as you already have the marquee thing going on in your 2nd screen.

Do you really need a 2nd one? I already know where you going with that bad boy.

[griffindodd]

First I have to decide if I am going to use it in the cab. I have to decase it and see what the overall width of the screen is. If it's 28.25" or less than I'll be able to fit it in the width with some very careful slot routing at the marquee area.

Assuming I manage to pull that off I can hand off the marquee artwork to that display and use the backglass for other info like flyers, controllers, artwork etc etc. The primary use of the backglass is for pinball and that will remain the same. I'm going to have fun playing with ideas like having the ability to show a full anamorphic movie on the Marquee, see if I can get Karaoke lyrics up there, all kinds of crazy fun possibilities.

I think this is one of the best things about these custom cabs, you can do as much as your imagination will run to.

[rablack97]

Great find anyway, old JeffandIvan.....

[DNA Dan]

Not that great of a find IMO. Bidding starts at $199 with a reserve no doubt. The buy it now is $499. It's a refurb, not a factory stock. Your mileage might vary quite a bit.

[griffindodd]

Not that great of a find IMO. Bidding starts at $199 with a reserve no doubt. The buy it now is $499. It's a refurb, not a factory stock. Your mileage might vary quite a bit.

DNA Debby Downer Dan 

[DNA Dan]

Just Sayin... you were yapping about going cheap on parts earlier in the thread. I think $499 could be much better spent on your cab elsewhere. Especially since you already have the double monitors going on. Which I think looks great as it is BTW. 

Also the seller has a "ALL SALES FINAL, Repairs at our discretion" notice in the fine print. This is piss poor and should raise a red flag.

[yotsuya]

He already bought one. 

[griffindodd]

He already bought one. 

Yeah I already dropped the hammer on this screen but have decided not to use it in this build after all, the height of the screen will be too much for the lines I have already created so this is going in the 'cool things I found for use later' bin.

[rablack97]

Geeez, that's a big ass hammer to drop and not use.....


Hey how much did the light kit set you back....i', looking at the same thing...

Found a kit for 50.00 or so....includes 16ft of rgb lighting, contoller, remote and plug, and music sensor....

That sound about right....

[griffindodd]

Yep that's about right

[griffindodd]

Finally found some time to get back into the garage today and start doing some work.

First of all I converted my Happ trackball from standard cue-ball white to RGB with the kit from I think GGG. The kit has a replacement translucent ball and a super powerful RGB light that bolts to the bottom of the body, so a pretty simple conversion.


The RGB light unit


Translucent ball in the housing, compared to the original cue ball white


I also got myself down to Kinkos and got my controller base and main panel printed out on the plotter


Finding out your control panel fits on one of your offcuts feels like finding $10 in your jeans 


I hear a lot of people say jigsaws are only for rough cuts, but on MDF give me a jigsaw any day


Yaksplat recommended Freud drill bits to me, so I got their forstner 1"1/8


Tool porn


Like a hot velvet knife through chocolate buttah

[rablack97]

Damn, that's some great jigsaw work....

I'm banned from saying messed anymore, Le Chuck doesn't like my choice of words when i see greatness...

[griffindodd]

I used MSCE's trackball template to mount the Happ ball, I'm top mounting my gear, so I had to do a little bit of flipping, but it was an awesome help and made the job very simple, a big thanks to MCSE for making this for everyone 


 The underside of the CP, following MSCE's lines the trackball fits like a glove, I even had to give it a few light taps for it to sit into place it was so snug, NICE!!!


Got a smidge too close to my buttons, so did a little subtle dremel work just to ease the way


Buttons tight up against the flush mounted trackball plate. I routed the area 1/16th of an inch for a flush fit.


I also routed the joystick mounting plate area's to 1/8" to allow for the mounting plate and dust washer to move freely, not the worlds finest routing, I just did it freehand, but it's not that crucial as it will be hidden under artwork.


Testing the control panel base for fit and overhang on the cab


Testing the height of the panel with a few books to prop everything up. It's a little on the high side, comfortable for me at 6' but it might feel a little high for anyone under about 5'6".


So overall good progress today considering I was babysitting most of the afternoon and evening. Tomorrow I get the 'day off' so hopefully I will be able to get all of the main building of the control panel finished.

[rablack97]

Bro, you sure you didn't route too far down on those jstiks, you might have graphic sag below your plexi....

If you're top mounting shouldn't the plate be flush with the CP?

[griffindodd]

Bro, you sure you didn't route too far down on those jstiks, you might have graphic sag below your plexi....

If you're top mounting shouldn't the plate be flush with the CP?

That's what I thought at first, but then I have to get the dust washer under the art and also allow for screws in the mounting plates as the plates aren't countersunk. I'll be sticking my artwork to something with a little stiffness to it to compensate for any potential sagging in those areas, I'll just have to feel it out as I go.

[rablack97]

Ok you've lost me.....You put the dust washer under your graphic, what are you gonna cover the hole in your graphic with.  Won't you have a gaping 1/8 hole showing.

Also, you can use a drill bit or a countersink bit, and take a little of the metal out of your plates so the screws sit flush....

Go halfway down and you'll see what i'm talking about....

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,96162.80.html

[griffindodd]

But then you would have the dust washer rubbing on your artwork under the plexi, unless you end up putting your dust washer on top of your plexi and then it's kinda janky looking. This way the hole in your artwork only has to be big enough for joystick travel and the dust washer masks the hole on the underside.

[rablack97]

Dust Wahsers aren't Janky.....

They are suppose to go on top of the plexi man....

Why mask the hole underneath the graphic, it's gonna be hidden....

Ok....i just have to see what genius you have on this one....



That sir is not Janky

[rablack97]

I see what your saying though...small hole in the plexi, for the stick only.  You've got those arrows working, so i get it....

[Le Chuck]

They are suppose to go on top of the plexi man....

No they aren't. It's an option.

If you do it right, you can have the dust washer right under the top of the CP where it belongs.

A very clean example:

There has been discussion over the past years and the consensus seems to be that when under mounting on a metal CP that under is best.  When under mounting on a wood CP that top is best (to prevent a channel of dust) however top mounting under the art is really the best of both worlds and the ideal application in this case - in short I 100% agree with the OP that this is the way to go.  A lot of folks that favor dust washers on top for aestic reasons played more wood panel games in the late 80s early 90s.  Most of the under crowd harkens to ten years prior. 

Although your panel (rablack) is very nice let's reference some of the builds that were voted as the best by the community this last year. 


Pixel Hugger's Mission Control


Martijn's Marvel vs Capcom


Fearsomefearful's Pac-Man 30th Anniversary

Out of 4 fullsize uprights only one had the washers on top (knievel's not pictured).  To the OP: When choosing a group of builders to emulate you're always in good company with PixelHugger, Martijn, and WellFedGames.   

[t3design]

One of the things that attracted me to this hobby (after the lure of being able to play Tempest in my underwear) was that I could express myself in the design and artistry of the cabinet. Some things are NOT matters of opinion; LEDs have to be hooked to the right voltage and polarity, monitors and outputs have to have matched resolutions, and pixelhugger is the greatest builder of all time. Most of what we do though is subject to personal taste and desire.

My dust washers are on top. Yours are under. I say potato, you say grapefruit.

I like the advice I hear given often around this wonderful community: look around at what others have done and do some version of what appeals to you.

At the end of the day you are the only one that has to be happy with the result.

[griffindodd]

Thanks for those examples, I'm glad I'm not going crazy.

I couldn't remember where I had absorbed that information from (probably Martjyn) all the posts start to blur into one after a while but I knew I had seen someone talking about it somewhere.

Now if I can just work out how to embed that rotating refrigerated gumball dispenser then I'll be set.