Bryan's Payramid reproduction

[yaksplat]

So, I had run across a site detailing a Bryan's Payramid and I was instantly hooked on wanting to build one.  If you google it, you really won't find a whole lot of information out there.  There's more misspellings of pyramid than actual Payramid information.

Anyways, I decided to start this project about a year ago, and it's a very slow moving beast.  I'm planning on drawing the entire thing up in 3d with Inventor before i start building anything.  I've managed to draw up just the case so far.  I've been relying on someone from the UK that has a machine to give me measurements here or there.  So far he's quicker at supplying measurements than I am at drawing things up.  Well, that and I over estimated the amount of free time that i'd have with 3 kids, one of them being a newborn.  Well, during his 7 month life thus far, I've managed to build 2 complete cabs and one is nearly done, with some time taken off for sanity and to blow through a few seasons of spartacus and breaking bad.

For those of you that have never heard of Bryan's Payramid, here's a page that should fill you in:
http://www.melright.com/bryans/payramid.htm

I though I'd throw this thread out there in case anyone happens to have a similar level of interest in the machine from 80 years ago. It won't be very active until i finish my cab that needs its artwork completed.  That and the internals will be quite a bit of work to get functioning properly.

My work so far:

[yotsuya]

How does the game work? I read the link in the other thread this was mentioned in, but I'm not clear on what you do. Thanks!

[yaksplat]

Insert Coin
Turn crank and 8 balls are released
Turn crank further and a ball is released from the top
Rotate handle that moves the 'fingers' back and forth to catch the ball after it leaves the pin area
After you catch 5 balls there's a payout
If you catch all 8 balls, you get the jackpot and get to play the ball again
Each time the ball is caught, two additional coins are rewarded

[DaveMMR]

Damn!  I misread the title. I thought you were building this:



Oh well. I'm pretty interested to see how this turns out. Don't see many of these types of projects.

[Generic Eric]

This reminds me of a  few games I have seen on Pawn Stars and that American Restoration show.  This will be a project to watch.

[Le Chuck]

Yak, glad you decided to post this.  Hopefully it will give you the motivation to put Crystal Cove to bed, quit your job, and make this your primary focus... well, step two is optional.  Can't wait to see this come together.  Are you thinking of laminate or going full rare hardwoods for the sides?  This would be gorgeous with some inlay work.   

[TopJimmyCooks]

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[yaksplat]

Yak, glad you decided to post this.  Hopefully it will give you the motivation to put Crystal Cove to bed, quit your job, and make this your primary focus... well, step two is optional.  Can't wait to see this come together.  Are you thinking of laminate or going full rare hardwoods for the sides?  This would be gorgeous with some inlay work.   

Laminate?   Laminate?  Did you dare type that?  I think my grandfather and great-grandfather simultaneously turned over in their graves from that statement.  The fact that i have a pergo floor in my house makes me ill. 

I think i have a few hundred board feet laying around the house of cherry, oak, maple, wenge, bloodwood, ipe, paduak, kingwood, cocobolo, mahogany and peruvian walnut to keep me from using any form of pressboard.

The original is all oak, so i could go with history, or go fancy. I'll veer towards fancy.

If you made two of these, how much would the second one cost if I wanted to buy it?

I'll have to calculate that based on the build time.  I should mention that I bill out at $115/hour on the software consulting side though
But i know that if i'm building one, I'll be building several at once.

Oh, and no expecting quick results.  I plan on making Ond look like a speed demon.

[Le Chuck]

Laminate?   Laminate?  Did you dare type that?  I think my grandfather and great-grandfather simultaneously turned over in their graves from that statement.  The fact that i have a pergo floor in my house makes me ill. 

I think i have a few hundred board feet laying around the house of cherry, oak, maple, wenge, bloodwood, ipe, paduak, kingwood, cocobolo, mahogany and peruvian walnut to keep me from using any form of pressboard.

Not all laminates are ---smurfy---, you can get some amazing sheets for those of us who don't hoard endangered forests in our shed.  Maybe you should just build it out of abalone shell and dodo feathers. 

[yaksplat]

The fun thing about the exotic wood is finding out the interesting properties of them.  Zebrawood smeels like absolute ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- when you cut it.  Dust from bloodwood is nice and toxic.  Your sinuses start burning almost immediately upon contact.  You get the worst splinters imaginable from Ipe.

Despite all of that, I'm unable to build anything in my shop that isn't a solid hardwood.  Cab builds are excluded due to size and timeframe.  My desire for a Mission Control-esque build was diminshed due to this.  I did build a playset in the backyard out of Ipe and redwood.  Ipe is awesome for outdoor projects.  Extremely hard, bug, decay and weather proof. 

Nice thing is that the Payramid is relatively small.  It won't take much lumber to crank a few out.  It more an exercise in mechanism building and making 3d drawings for castings.

This would be a hell of a kit to make...

[yotsuya]

What about the mechanics of the device? Do you have a schematic on how it works? Looks like a fun project.

[yaksplat]

I have the patent.  As ridiculous as that sounds, it actually contains scale drawings with amazing detail in how it all works.

Patent:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=253d219ef4256e03&resid=253D219EF4256E03!3063&parid=253D219EF4256E03!3024&authkey=!AINTNdhBtmvUehA

[Mysterioii]

Hey sir.  Since you're planning on drawing up all the parts in 3d modeling software and I saw you mention in another thread that you planned to have them printed by Shapeways to do some prototyping and proof of concept, I was wondering if you'd thought about releasing the library of models into the wild when you're done...  This is a sweet project and might be facilitated for others if they were able to print some of the guts rather than having to get them machined...

Of course I understand not wanting to give away hard work for free so maybe you could charge a reasonable fee for the models...   

I stumbled across a place selling completely assembled non-kit 3d printers for $500-$600 using the melted plastic filament method and it got me wanting one again...  I knew of the Makerbots that sold kits in the thousand dollar range but I wasn't aware that finished devices were available for about half that already...

www.solidoodle.com

[Nephasth]

Progress bump...

This is one of the most interesting projects I've seen on the boards, can't wait to see build pics!

[SavannahLion]

I have the patent.  As ridiculous as that sounds, it actually contains scale drawings with amazing detail in how it all works.

Patent:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=253d219ef4256e03&resid=253D219EF4256E03!3063&parid=253D219EF4256E03!3024&authkey=!AINTNdhBtmvUehA

Holy nuts, is this guy for real? I was trying to figure out if he was going to do the mechanical route or cheat and use a microcontroller. Pretty clear he's not going to cheat. If he's still working on this and he's making more than one I will babysit his kids in exchange for one of these.

[Mysterioii]

I'm still interested in a reply to my post a few posts up.      If yaksplat is modeling a lot of the parts in software it would be cool if he made the models available, even if he charged a bit...

[yaksplat]

Yeah, this is going to take some time before anything gets underway.  It'd be easy to crank out the cases, but hey, who really wants that?  All the meat is going to take a bit of time to get going. Plenty of parts to model....

[Le Chuck]

How's the modeling going? 


I no kidding think about this project every few weeks at least. 

[yaksplat]

I wish I had time to work on this,

It's in the queue.

Unfortunately it's one big queue, although I'd love to bump it up to the top soon.

I no kidding think about this project every few weeks at least. 

I do at least once a week.  It's usually followed by, "When the hell am I going to do that?"

[Le Chuck]

Fair enough.  I've got a pretty big project queue myself.  Let's see, three micros, a full size SW recreate that I have a crapload of original pieces for, and lord knows what else.  Oh yeah, and I have to finish that speeder R2 thingy first and that should only take a year or three.   We need funding from the independently wealthy so we can do this stuff full time. 

[yotsuya]

Fair enough.  I've got a pretty big project queue myself... a full size SW recreate that I have a crapload of original pieces for...

Me too! What point are you at?

We need funding from the independently wealthy so we can do this stuff full time.

Amen, brother!

[Le Chuck]

Fair enough.  I've got a pretty big project queue myself... a full size SW recreate that I have a crapload of original pieces for...

Me too! What point are you at?

Collection. My original parts list thus far: yoke, shroud, CP, marquee with hardware, speaker cover, coin door, and glass. Needing to start hunting internals.

[Nephasth]

How's that queue coming?

[Le Chuck]

How's that queue coming?

Glad you bumped it rather than me again, I've been sorely tempted of late. 

[yotsuya]

You out there, Yaksplat? We haven't heard from you in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time, bro.

[yaksplat]

I'm still alive out here, but just way too busy.  New job, designing a new house, buying land for said house and general life with 3 kids.  So, this project isn't dead, it's just on hold.  It seems like I do all of the fun stuff from October to March and then I don't see my shop until the following October. 

I'm hoping that I can get back into this, at least designing and prototyping some of the subassemblies in the mechanism.

When there is something, i'll definitely be posting it here 

[yotsuya]

I'm still alive out here, but just way too busy.  New job, designing a new house, buying land for said house and general life with 3 kids.  So, this project isn't dead, it's just on hold.  It seems like I do all of the fun stuff from October to March and then I don't see my shop until the following October. 

I'm hoping that I can get back into this, at least designing and prototyping some of the subassemblies in the mechanism.

When there is something, i'll definitely be posting it here 

YAK!!!!

[marioxb]

Laminate?   Laminate?  Did you dare type that?  I think my grandfather and great-grandfather simultaneously turned over in their graves from that statement.  The fact that i have a pergo floor in my house makes me ill. 

I think i have a few hundred board feet laying around the house of cherry, oak, maple, wenge, bloodwood, ipe, paduak, kingwood, cocobolo, mahogany and peruvian walnut to keep me from using any form of pressboard.

The original is all oak, so i could go with history, or go fancy. I'll veer towards fancy.

I can only hear that coming from Ron Swanson's voice. It sounds exactly like something he would say.