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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #640 on: February 28, 2019, 05:09:10 am »
I stuck pinball buttons on the sides, they work great :)

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #641 on: March 26, 2019, 11:36:51 am »
Hey vaderag,

Hope you've been well past couple of weeks!  I've had some burning questions ever since I began creating the art templates for the cab.  Whenever you get a moment I'd appreciate your advice regarding what you did with your CP.

1) Because the vinyl would cover the majority of the CP, did you not paint it black?  I ask simply because there's another thread where I see your cab black while the CP wasn't.
2) To make the vinyl application process easier, did you not screw in the CP side pieces until you applied the vinyl on the main CP to make it easier to wrap around the side edges without the side pieces getting in the way?  Was there anything unique about how/when you decided to screw in the side pieces within the steps of building?
3) The main CP vinyl was one flowing piece, correct?
4) The vinyl flows underneath into the bottom of the CP.  Did you extend the bottom vinyl length so it was tucked inside the main cab (so that it wouldn't peel or someone could grip it from beneath the CP?)

Thanks so much as always!!


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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #642 on: March 26, 2019, 01:31:24 pm »
Hey Tyler,

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1) Because the vinyl would cover the majority of the CP, did you not paint it black?  I ask simply because there's another thread where I see your cab black while the CP wasn't.
- I painted the whole lot in undercoat and only the edges in black of where the CP was sitting

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2) To make the vinyl application process easier, did you not screw in the CP side pieces until you applied the vinyl on the main CP to make it easier to wrap around the side edges without the side pieces getting in the way?  Was there anything unique about how/when you decided to screw in the side pieces within the steps of building?
My Side Panels of the CP arent screwed - they're held on with a frame and tension clips like this but bigger -
Vinyl was applied prior to them being clipped on

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3) The main CP vinyl was one flowing piece, correct?
Yes. It's not actually the whole thing thats covered, only about 3/4 but yes, one piece

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4) The vinyl flows underneath into the bottom of the CP.  Did you extend the bottom vinyl length so it was tucked inside the main cab (so that it wouldn't peel or someone could grip it from beneath the CP?)
It does go underneath. I've stapled it for extra hold, but dont think it needs it :)

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #643 on: March 26, 2019, 03:46:05 pm »
Thank you!!

I still haven't figured out how you got the clips mounted but this could be due to having a late lunch and my brain ceasing to function  :).  So the clips are accessible from the outside and located on the underside?

What was your reasoning to use clips instead of screwing the side pieces permanently to the batons?  Was it because of the pinball flipper buttons?  All my buttons would be on the main top board so I'm wondering if there's some obvious red flag to screw in the CP sides that I haven't thought of.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #644 on: March 26, 2019, 04:00:29 pm »
Ha, nope. The clips are inside, accessed from the underside of the cp

The main reason was in fact for vinyl.
access, yes as well, for the pinball buttons s but also just for general wiring

But the vinyl most important - if I screwed it then it would mean I had to do that before applying vinyl, so that I could cover the screwheads and make flush which would have meant no overlap, potential to mess up the application

I'm sure there was another reason too, but escaping me right now!

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #645 on: April 26, 2019, 11:35:29 am »
vaderag!

Happy Friday my friend.  I hope you're well.

Here's another quick question for you when you get a moment.

By design, the Top CP Panel is a few cm's longer than the Bottom CP Panel and causes this per the red arrow:


I studied your specs in metric to confirm you also made these cuts.  For me it causes a small gap between cab and cp because it pushes against the cab (makes contact with the cab before the CP back piece does) preventing the back piece and cab back plate to connect flush together for bolting. 

It's nothing major but was curious if you figured out what that was for. 

Ond--feel free to opine.

Thanks guys as always.




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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #646 on: April 26, 2019, 02:54:40 pm »
Hey mate, happy to (try) help!

I'm not 100% sure

I don't remember having an overlap like that (and I definitely don't have it now)

I'd need to check, which I cant easily, but I think you've got the wood sandwiched and it should be 'tetrissed' like two L shapes

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #647 on: April 26, 2019, 04:27:39 pm »
I started at the beginning to find the drawings and the control panel appears to be on page 4 of the thread and the vertical pieces are shown as sandwiched not 2 L shapes and there is no overhang shown in the photo.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #648 on: April 26, 2019, 04:32:05 pm »
I would double-check your measurements.  The CP Top panel looks like it's supposed to be 1/8" longer than the bottom panel which is probably due to the angle but yours sure looks like its a lot more than 1/8" longer than the bottom.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #649 on: April 26, 2019, 05:05:26 pm »
Thanks both of you!

Gilrock looks like you found the file, but I'll post it to confirm that the top is supposed to be 1/8th larger than the bottom:


I just measured it and I'm at about 1/8th.  If I'm off it's about a 64th and definitely not more than a 32nd.

it's supposed to be 1/8" longer than the bottom panel which is probably due to the angle

Which angle?  Do you mean it's supposed to cover some of the angle on the beginning of the incline of the bezel as per this location, because I can see why that would make sense:

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« Reply #650 on: April 26, 2019, 05:14:45 pm »
 By angle think he means the cp angle due to back being higher than front. The dimensions for that worked for me and just checking I'm sandwiched, so think maybe you've got it a bit large?

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #651 on: April 26, 2019, 05:35:12 pm »
Oh, yeah.  That's probably what he meant.

Here's a closeup measuring that extra 1/8th in the back when I get a flush enclosure in the front:


When one panel is longer than the other by 1/8th, you'll get a 1/8th difference when sandwiching...
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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #652 on: April 26, 2019, 05:47:16 pm »
When one panel is longer than the other by 1/8th, you'll get a 1/8th difference when sandwiching...

That would be true if the top and bottom were parallel but they are not.  The top panel is sloped and that is the reason it's supposed to be 1/8" longer than the bottom.  You need to measure the actual full width of the top and bottom to compare not measure that overhang.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #653 on: April 26, 2019, 07:29:40 pm »
Gilrock,

Measuring the full widths of top and bottom

Top: 10 5/32:


Bottom: 10 1/32:


This is what you meant, correct?  Thanks so much.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #654 on: April 26, 2019, 09:47:17 pm »
I want this thread to stay alive too. My current status:
  • Cab completely built and working. Been gaming on it for months now and it's pretty awesome. Vertical LCD and CPO has RGB everything.
  • Custom artwork by Opt2Not is complete (AMAZING) and has been delivered though I have yet to send it to the printer. Working with this guy was such a pleasure. So prossional, skilled, creative.
  • User Mike Boss is building a custom MaLa layout for me and he's incorporated some of the custom art from Opt2Not. I've seen a preview and she's a beaut!
  • T-mold is here and ready for install after the artwork application.
Otherwise it's ready to go. Hope to have the finish product pics posted soon.

Thanks again to OND for the inspiration to jump in and learn this stuff. I'm already thinking about another cab with a horizontal CRT w/ custom Metal Slug theme, assuming that Opt2Not will work with me again. And thanks to everyone else that has contributed to this thread and to the forum in general. I certainly couldn't have done it with you'se guys.

I really wish Gern posted his end result.

The artwork turned out really great, and would have loved to see it applied to his cabinet.

But he hasn't logged in since 2016...






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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #655 on: April 26, 2019, 10:49:13 pm »
I want this thread to stay alive too. My current status:
  • Cab completely built and working. Been gaming on it for months now and it's pretty awesome. Vertical LCD and CPO has RGB everything.
  • Custom artwork by Opt2Not is complete (AMAZING) and has been delivered though I have yet to send it to the printer. Working with this guy was such a pleasure. So prossional, skilled, creative.
  • User Mike Boss is building a custom MaLa layout for me and he's incorporated some of the custom art from Opt2Not. I've seen a preview and she's a beaut!
  • T-mold is here and ready for install after the artwork application.
Otherwise it's ready to go. Hope to have the finish product pics posted soon.

Thanks again to OND for the inspiration to jump in and learn this stuff. I'm already thinking about another cab with a horizontal CRT w/ custom Metal Slug theme, assuming that Opt2Not will work with me again. And thanks to everyone else that has contributed to this thread and to the forum in general. I certainly couldn't have done it with you'se guys.

I really wish Gern posted his end result.

The artwork turned out really great, and would have loved to see it applied to his cabinet.

But he hasn't logged in since 2016...







Seriously nice work here.  Would have loved too see it on the cab as well.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #656 on: April 27, 2019, 10:23:30 am »
Gilrock,

Measuring the full widths of top and bottom

Top: 10 5/32:


Bottom: 10 1/32:


This is what you meant, correct?  Thanks so much.


Ok I drew out the side profile in a CAD program and did some math.  With the front 3.15625", back 4", bottom 10.03125", the top works out to be 10.0667" but the plans show 10.15625.  He was most likely rounding to the nearest 1/32" when he posted measurements because you can't cut more accurate than that unless it's CNC.  So the plans have the top about 0.08955" longer...times 32 is ~2.86.  So that's just over a 1/16" longer than it needs to be.  At this point I would just use a hand held belt sander and sand that top board back down flat with the back panel.

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #657 on: April 27, 2019, 01:16:58 pm »

Ok I drew out the side profile in a CAD program and did some math.  With the front 3.15625", back 4", bottom 10.03125", the top works out to be 10.0667" but the plans show 10.15625.  He was most likely rounding to the nearest 1/32" when he posted measurements because you can't cut more accurate than that unless it's CNC.  So the plans have the top about 0.08955" longer...times 32 is ~2.86.  So that's just over a 1/16" longer than it needs to be.  At this point I would just use a hand held belt sander and sand that top board back down flat with the back panel.

You are a legend!  I thought I was taking "crazy" pills and  I owe you for solving this puzzle. 

So the correct "top" width should be 10.0667" which rounded to the nearest metric I should use 10.0625 (1/16th).  Correct?

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« Reply #658 on: April 27, 2019, 01:25:51 pm »

Ok I drew out the side profile in a CAD program and did some math.  With the front 3.15625", back 4", bottom 10.03125", the top works out to be 10.0667" but the plans show 10.15625.  He was most likely rounding to the nearest 1/32" when he posted measurements because you can't cut more accurate than that unless it's CNC.  So the plans have the top about 0.08955" longer...times 32 is ~2.86.  So that's just over a 1/16" longer than it needs to be.  At this point I would just use a hand held belt sander and sand that top board back down flat with the back panel.

You are a legend!  I thought I was taking "crazy" pills and  I owe you for solving this puzzle. 

So the correct "top" width should be 10.0667" which rounded to the nearest metric I should use 10.0625 (1/16th).  Correct?
This is why sane counties work in mm ;-)

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #659 on: April 27, 2019, 02:07:39 pm »
Well now that you got that board lying there can't you just mark a pencil line underneath the lip and use that to cut it?

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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #660 on: April 27, 2019, 02:24:41 pm »
Well now that you got that board lying there can't you just mark a pencil line underneath the lip and use that to cut it?

Definitely!

I have a thinner template carbon copy I'm going to trim first at 10.0625 then run a flush trim bit through the main piece. 

Any extra lip thereafter from the main piece I'll assume human error and sand down.
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Re: Build an OND designed cab 'Metropolis'
« Reply #661 on: June 11, 2019, 11:26:09 am »
Hi,

I need some help with my control panel. Are there any cnc cad files? Itís hard to find something like gameroomsolutions in Germany. The control panel from their site almost fits. Or does something else fits with the ond cab?