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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2012, 09:53:53 am »

I have never once seen one of those X in 1 cabs in an arcade.  I know they must be out there but there aren't many.

Every other collector's house I have been to has one.  Who really is the market for those things?

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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2012, 10:10:21 am »

I have never once seen one of those X in 1 cabs in an arcade.  I know they must be out there but there aren't many.

Every other collector's house I have been to has one.  Who really is the market for those things?

I've seen them in bars, an ice skating rink, laundromats - those places, as pinballjim said, that aren't "arcades" but have the machine around for some extra income.   A vendor was also trying to sell me one for around $700 back when I was buying a new monitor. 

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2012, 10:55:25 am »

Around here those places all have crane games.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2012, 10:59:34 am »
Just last week I was at a hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurant, and I saw a Ms. Pac-Man with a Zaxxon screen. I was like WTF, then when it switched to the xx-in-1 menu I realized I was seeing one of these out in the open.
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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2012, 11:03:30 am »
Arcades don't exist in 2012.

Sure they do.  Castles & Coasters, Phoenix, AZ:










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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2012, 11:12:31 am »

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« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2012, 11:23:04 am »
THat place is f-ing sweet!

One of the last 2 arcades in town just closed :(

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« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2012, 11:40:26 am »
I was at one of those drive through wild animal safari places the other day.  They had a small "arcade" set up in the gift shop with a few prize vendors, ski-ball, a super hang on bike, a really nice Indy pin with all the mods next to a Shrek, and a 60-n-1 stand-up cab.  I wish I could find larger arcades like those pictured, I think Castles and Coasters maybe my new Mecca. 

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2012, 12:22:15 pm »
Oh man, half a dozen arcades still in business.  You totally zinged me. 

There are some here in San Diego, but I didnt want to turn this thread into the other one regarding arcades that are still around.

Back on topic... this is storage wars TEXAS. Do you expect anything else? (haha PBJ  :P;)
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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2012, 12:22:34 pm »
I heard somewhere that the vast majority of blanket statements are false.

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« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2012, 01:35:46 pm »

I would also bet that the guy actually gave a fairly realistic assessment that they chopped up to make look like that.  For all we know the question was "what would a real ms pac cocktail sell for at retail" and that's where the $1200 answer comes in.

It's so obvious they edited the heck out of that clip.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2012, 01:58:02 pm »
How about we toss out all the Bootleg roms in mame?  Because, they by definition, should be illegal.
And how about we destroy all directive works, Period?

 If it wasnt for the SF hacks, Capcom wouldnt have Wised up, and gave the people what they really wanted.

 And if it wasnt for the many bootlegs, many of the original mame roms would have taken a lot longer, if ever, to break their decryption.

 A 40-in-1 pcb is a legal joke, so long as you dont put the thing in an arcade.  Its the equivalent of J-Walking.   It harms nobodys income.  Its doesnt change the value of a real 25+yr old classic machine.
(not that it even matters)   I guarantee that most people here are doing things much more illegal that selling a bootleg pcb... such as downloading a current tv / movie / song.  (which Does effect earnings / profit)

 Just because it was on tv, means nothing.  For all it matters, it could have been a SFII Rainbow hack.

 Its not like they are selling live livers on the damn show.

 You people need to take a chill pill.

 Your OCD / Nazi-Ism is off the charts.


You never actually quoted me but it seems clear that you are talking about me in this case.

I actually never once mentioned anything about the legality, warez or anything similar. I also never once mentioned anything about the appraised price. What i did say is that they were clearly trying to pass this off as an original ms pacman cabinet while every other item on the show was thoroughly checked for authenticity. Reproductions were clearly shown and laid out in the open. They even went as far as to measure items prior to appraisal in order to make sure the said items were not reproductions. It's quite obvious that they were trying to pass this off as a legitimate ms pacman that would otherwise be a collectors item and be more valuable.

As for the rest of your statement, It's always nice to see someone show a little class when it comes to disagreeing with someone's opinions.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2012, 02:04:19 pm »

The Pinball Wizard in NH is not an old one still in business.  It is, coincedentally, a year old today.

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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2012, 02:07:59 pm »
I just think it is funny that they obviously did not want to dedicate airtime to the difference between a modern XX-in-1 board and a dedicated cabinet, which to people who are interested in old/collectible things (surely part of their viewer base), might have been worthwhile.
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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2012, 04:02:19 pm »
what i find funny is they never open the cab up for a look see
if they did u would find the pix'a i am going to post
right out of a :real-pacman:
so to the point i have to go with howard on this 1
where these show's are 50/50 to watch,u want to keep in your mind
they are paid for ppl,with nothing to lose at all
to think there real,think again

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2012, 04:34:13 pm »
Heh -- Xouchey called someone other than me a Nazi!   :droid

FWIW -- I don't think anything was out of line, but was edited and doesn't play well to folks like us. The barcade guy had a nice collection of machines (nicer than pretty much anybody posting in this thread), so it makes sense to assume that he knows what he is talking about. $1200 retail ain't out of line for a 60-in-1, even if it is a tad high in this market.

I was watching Pawn Stars the other day and saw "Big Hoss" pay $1000 for a Bally Odds and Evens, then put $3000 into a resto and, while I am not a pin guy, I looked the machine up in my 2008 Mr Pinball guide and the price was $500.

We are not the market for folks like that and I, for one, wish there were more folks willing to pay so much (especially since I have some spare 48-in-1 boards sitting on my bench)!

As for Xouchey's comments about the xx-in-1 and the effects on dedicated  cab pricing -- he is wrong. The 48-in-1 and 60-in-1 cabs have taken the "high margin" (e.g. non-expert) consumer away from the dedicated market and resulted in lower prices (there is a reason why collectors of dedicated machines sell xx-in-1 over dedicated). Every argument that has been made by people who actually sell games (e.g. not Xouchey) about the effects of MAME on the value of dedicated machines applies equally to the 48- and 60-in-1 (especially since they are MAME).




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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2012, 04:39:55 pm »
what i find funny is they never open the cab up for a look see
if they did u would find the pix'a i am going to post
right out of a :real-pacman:
so to the point i have to go with howard on this 1
where these show's are 50/50 to watch,u want to keep in your mind
they are paid for ppl,with nothing to lose at all
to think there real,think again

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2012, 04:45:57 pm »
while your look at mame is correct,and has driven the market into a downward drive..i must point out that a
normal person is totaly dombfounded,ie lack of know
a collecter know's what they are looking for and there value....
but to put mame up to a real deal is just out of the relm....
and in any account,WHEN DID WE START TO SELL FREE-WARE?
who gave them the right ?,IDIOT'S thats who

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2012, 05:05:56 pm »
I'd blame the $10 TV joysticks and $5 retro downloads for killing the market.

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« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2012, 05:23:39 pm »
Does the qualify me as "someone very familiar with arcade cabinet sales" or should I spend more time googling it? 

Is somebody wanting to be the new Chad ?  >:D

FWIW, I don't think you are off-the-mark (I actually still have a Jakks stick and other parts that I bought to make a minicab a la bishmasterb), but was making the point about the hypocrisy of you constantly demanding proof  from others, but expecting us to accept your word as gospel.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2012, 06:01:38 pm »

I would also bet that the guy actually gave a fairly realistic assessment that they chopped up to make look like that.  For all we know the question was "what would a real ms pac cocktail sell for at retail" and that's where the $1200 answer comes in.


I'm going to agree with you on this one. The amount of times you see commercials for shows or little segments that make it look like something happened is insane. 4 minutes later you watch the show only to find out that yes those words did come out of the persons mouth but completely out of context and they mean something completely different. Now if it was a straight uncut viewing of what this expert "said" then yes I'd say this guy is a moron. Due to the fact that the scene has obviously been chopped up into a bunch of pieces who knows how the conversation actually went.


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« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2012, 06:16:58 pm »

 You people need to take a chill pill.

 Your OCD / Nazi-Ism is off the charts.


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« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2012, 09:30:57 pm »
Firstly, My comments were directed at Howard CastRo.  "MR. Heart-Attack-In-Any-Moment"
As that is who started the Crazy rants.

 Id say over 95% of the people on this board actually know that the show is both staged, and edited to shreds.

 Yet, Howard goes ahead, hook-line-and-sinker, and starts fitting over it... calling Ops stupid.
Over-Reaction by magnitude 1000...  and street-smarts level -2000.

 No Op running an Arcade is going to be a dunce.  No Op is going to Appraise a 40-in-one as an original Ms.Pacman.  Its just ludicrous to even think that its even possible for that Scenario to exist in REALITY.

 But even besides that fact... its the black and white attitude that is even worse, Imo.  The Nazi example is a relevant one... merely because its extremist attitude taken to the furthest level. 

 Its not that I believe HC is going to be the next insane dictator.. or mass killer.  Its just I see way too many people like this in modern society... and it Does in fact scare me.

 I think Howard means well... but his own obsessions and insanely critical judgements are destroying his own lifes experience.   And so I feel it for the better, to put him in his place.


 As to collector value, a Real dedicated machine in excellent condition, will almost always be more valuable  $$$  to a collector, than a generic x-in-one.  Yes, prices for real machines have fallen...  But more so due to mame than x-in-ones.  Sure, you could call mame an X-in-one, but what Im saying... is that even without the cabinet or arcade controls... desire is down because you Can play them on your PC period.

 Of course, lets not forget about the crap economy, and the fact that many games just dont hold up over time. Ive seen several local collectors switch from nearly all Vids, to Pinball, because once you master a vid... its old hat... where as each Pinball game started, is completely different.


 As for X-in-ones in public...  Ive never seem a single one in the states. Possibly in Taiwan, but I never investigated to know for sure.   Its just pointless to even get riled up about regardless.   If the Op gets caught, the Op gets spanked.   I can tell you for certain, that no Op is getting buckets of money in some X-in-one even If they have the brass / stupidity to put one out.

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Actually, I bet he did open it up ... even the noobiest noob here wouldn't just plug a machine in blind.

It's the editing people.

 Exactly.  Anyone with Any coin op experience at all, wouldnt fire up a machine without internal inspection.  Yet, according to Howard, a guy with a room of working machines, is going to risk blowing up a game... and possibly even causing a fire in his own Arcade... because he's "Stupid" and Does not care.



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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2012, 10:10:30 pm »
I think Howard means well... but his own obsessions and insanely critical judgements are destroying his own lifes experience.   And so I feel it for the better, to put him in his place.

I apologize for speaking for others if not appropriate, but I assume most of us see the rant as nothing more than that.  It's great for discussion, and maybe his "insane criticisms" are what makes it so lively and interesting. But when you start bringing Nazi comparisons into it... then well I think you're taking it more seriously than anyone else is and perhaps you need to take a deep breath.

Personally, I think rants are fun. They certainly add to, not destroy, my life's experience.  ;)





 

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2012, 10:43:32 pm »
the problem really is not some kinda of loeft point of veiw
but as much as ppl do not do there research,they
google/graiglist/kijji and think oh i can get it here for xx
but what they fail to think through,is
a=is it the real deal
b=dose it work,and if not how much to fix
c=can i make it a show piece
u c collector's simply do not want a knock off
they want the real deal,and they want it as colse to real as it can get...
lord i have had them walk out when i pointed out i put in a switch-mode and removed the linear,go fiq??

howard's point is simple >as-i-can-see<
do not lie,tell the truth
a knock off is a knock off
a duck is a duck

simple buy a chev that is to have xx motor and find some-one swapped it out for xxx,u would be livid to say the least..why?
because it is NOT THE REAL DEAL

and by the way when did start selling freeware ?

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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2012, 08:29:45 am »
there's a 48 in one, (stick, 3 buttons and a 2 1/4 trackball) at a local bowling alley, but it was a new upright cab obviously mfg'd to house the board - has graphics from all the different games on the cab, etc. I've seen them online for sale somewhere for $2500 or so. So I don't know if there was some attempt at licensing.  I didn't check for labels but there's one main Op in the area, everybody either uses that company or has their own machines. 

If I had a cocktail with a a dead board, otherwise working (and it was legal) to try to fix and sell to a home user, I would look at a 48 in 1 to keep it a little more idiot proof as opposed to mameing it.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2012, 08:37:08 am »
I think Howard means well... but his own obsessions and insanely critical judgements are destroying his own lifes experience.   And so I feel it for the better, to put him in his place.

I apologize for speaking for others if not appropriate, but I assume most of us see the rant as nothing more than that.  It's great for discussion, and maybe his "insane criticisms" are what makes it so lively and interesting. But when you start bringing Nazi comparisons into it... then well I think you're taking it more seriously than anyone else is and perhaps you need to take a deep breath.

Personally, I think rants are fun. They certainly add to, not destroy, my life's experience.  ;)





 

You nailed it!  Thanks!  

I'm pretty sure that I mentioned in the very first post "nerd rage" and then again in another response referring to this post as a "pointless rant" and yet Xaiou2 seems to think that I have formed an entire opinion about the arcade community from an episode of some reality show.  He somehow thinks that the point of my discussion was that "ops are stupid" when my point was "hey check out this crappy mis-representation of our hobby and the shoddiness of this show"

Let me help you with that.  When you make a title for a thread, and you want a lot of people to check it out, you exaggerate a little on the title.  If I would have simply posted "Check out this Episode of Storage Wars Texas"  very few people would have chimed in.  It's an old writers trick man.  ;)


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ed is correct as well when it comes to my counter argument after X2s post. 

See when it comes to these types of reality shows, I tune in to learn something.  It angers me deeply when I see one of these shows giving out false information about ANYTHING.  I hate to go back to my previous example, but when I'm watching pawn stars or american pickers and they explain the history of the object in question (see it's a good fit for their network) I can rest assured that their info is farily accurate and that I can actually learn something.  I know this because some of the things they've apprasied over the years are things I'm very familiar with not only was their little lesson accurate, but in some cases they even taught me something new on a subject I thought I was well versed in. 

The lack of integrity of the A&E shows bother me... mostly because they are so popular and admittedly compelling.  They have a hit on their hands, why not go the extra mile and inject some quality into the program instead of just slapping it out there?
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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2012, 05:26:58 pm »
The Nazi example is a relevant one... merely because its extremist attitude taken to the furthest level. 

 Its not that I believe HC is going to be the next insane dictator.. or mass killer.  Its just I see way too many people like this in modern society... and it Does in fact scare me.

Nazi's...Killed Lots of Jews (and other People...)

Howard_Casto...Has killed 0 Jews...(as far as I know)

...Not a good comparison.


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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2012, 06:05:55 pm »
Further supporting evidence of Godwin's law. Currently being debated in our courts is whether comparing someone to a Nazi is protected speech. Two ways to look at it... The government is further limiting the first amendment or certain uneducated or insensitive citizens are unintentionally altering the social contract for the better.

Morale: if you're the type of person who thinks it's socially acceptable and valuable make hurtful and inflammatory comparisons you should make hay while the sun shines so to speak.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2012, 06:55:54 pm »
So much nerd rage that I had to post immediately after the episode. 

Ok, so on SWT the old guy found a cocktail cabinet in a locker.  He referreed to it as a "pacman" machine.  But it obviously wasn't.  The machine was, practically new, all black and laminated it had three buttons and a modern, 8-way joystick.  My first guess was a mame cab until I saw a mere 3 buttons and the light in my head went off  "it's one of those crappy 48 in 1 machines."  But you know I can excuse that guy because he's not expected to be an expert on arcade machines.  Anyway, my point is anyone with minimal arcade expericne would be able to determine what it was within 30 seconds of seeing it.  The real rage comes from when he takes it to an "expert" to be appraised.

He takes it to this guy that runs a "bar-cade" which is always a bad sign.  The guy then tells him that it could indeed be a pacman "it's one of the earlier ones" and that "they made the cocktail version because operators wanted a machine that saved space".  Ok first off, they didn't laminate the earlier machines, and it has modern controls and brand new ones at that... so it is obvious to any moron that it "isn't one of the earlier ones" and that even if it was a pacman at one point, it isn't now.  Secondly, everybody knows that cocktail machines take up waaay more space than uprights.  They turn it on and the guy who found it says... "shoot it isn't what I thought it was"  when the (wait for it...) 48 in 1 boot screen is shown.  The "expert" then says...... "no wait that's the boot up screen"  After the 48-in-1 selection screen shows up they do a quick camera cut and show the game running Ms. pac man.  The "expert" then tells him that it IS a pacman and that it's worth around 1200 dollars.

You know, I get that we are a bit more obsessive about this hobby than others and that maybe we might catch things that others don't, but you would think that and expert found for a tv show could be able to tell the difference between a 1980's classic and a mid 2000's bootleg rip-off!!!

I'm guessing from the context that this is some crappy reality TV show?

The way the guy said "It's one of the earlier ones" somehow reeminded me of when I ran into a school colleague, whom I never really liked. He had a Triumph belt buckle on. "Oh, you like Triumphs, eh?" I asked. "Yeah, they're the black ones, right?" He replied...


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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2012, 09:46:19 pm »
The Nazi example is a relevant one... merely because its extremist attitude taken to the furthest level. 

 Its not that I believe HC is going to be the next insane dictator.. or mass killer.  Its just I see way too many people like this in modern society... and it Does in fact scare me.

Nazi's...Killed Lots of Jews (and other People...)

Howard_Casto...Has killed 0 Jews...(as far as I know)

...Not a good comparison.

Just wait ...  we're about to find out that HC is behind Death Trains(tm) and the government watching us through our televisions ... then it will all make sense to you.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2012, 12:14:33 am »
The Nazi example is a relevant one... merely because its extremist attitude taken to the furthest level. 

 Its not that I believe HC is going to be the next insane dictator.. or mass killer.  Its just I see way too many people like this in modern society... and it Does in fact scare me.

Nazi's...Killed Lots of Jews (and other People...)

Howard_Casto...Has killed 0 Jews...(as far as I know)

...Not a good comparison.

Just wait ...  we're about to find out that HC is behind Death Trains(tm) and the government watching us through our televisions ... then it will all make sense to you.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2012, 05:33:33 pm »
Further supporting evidence of Godwin's law. Currently being debated in our courts is whether comparing someone to a Nazi is protected speech. Two ways to look at it... The government is further limiting the first amendment or certain uneducated or insensitive citizens are unintentionally altering the social contract for the better.

Morale: if you're the type of person who thinks it's socially acceptable and valuable make hurtful and inflammatory comparisons you should make hay while the sun shines so to speak.

OR

You can always start off a debate with something sensible instead of constantly spewing insults at someone.

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2012, 10:27:13 pm »
That Onstar was OEM though, you could tell.  Classic!

OnStar OEM?????? OnStar is a GM product that would have to be bought aftermarket for the FORD Mustang. Dont get me wrong, with the way dealerships are now, chances are that the Ford Dealer and GM dealer are on the same property and in attached buildings, so the sales person could lead you to believe that the OnStar was OEM but its a dealer add-on.

Just my $.02 (now you probably want change back)

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2012, 01:40:52 am »
That Onstar was OEM though, you could tell.  Classic!

OnStar OEM?????? OnStar is a GM product that would have to be bought aftermarket for the FORD Mustang. Dont get me wrong, with the way dealerships are now, chances are that the Ford Dealer and GM dealer are on the same property and in attached buildings, so the sales person could lead you to believe that the OnStar was OEM but its a dealer add-on.

Just my $.02 (now you probably want change back)

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I do.  The entire post you're quoting was an allusion meant to highlight the idiocy for anyone finding a modern multi-cade and assuming it is a classic pacman.  What kind of idiot would assume that just because you can jam a modern convenience such as OnStar into a classic beauty that the car would have had it 45 years ago when it rolled off the line... the same kinda idiot that would assume that just because you find some pacman bezel art that you have a rare-vintage-classic-whoa nelly cocktail on your hands.  Any terms used such as: Father, OEM, OnStar, classic, real beauty, mustang, lost, button, and other nouns, verbs, adjectives, and similar parts of speech should be considered purely fictional and as such, any inaccuracies in their use can be labeled as wasteful idiocy or poetic license.     

I clearly failed in my efforts and apologize to anyone that was either lead astray for generally bored.  Ditto for this post as well. 

That being said and in efforts drive this ranting thread further off topic one time I was knocked unconscious by a manta-ray.  True story.  No ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- there I was...

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2012, 05:53:22 am »

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #76 on: January 16, 2012, 12:27:59 am »
The Nazi example is a relevant one... merely because its extremist attitude taken to the furthest level. 

 Its not that I believe HC is going to be the next insane dictator.. or mass killer.  Its just I see way too many people like this in modern society... and it Does in fact scare me.

Nazi's...Killed Lots of Jews (and other People...)

Howard_Casto...Has killed 0 Jews...(as far as I know)

...Not a good comparison.

Just wait ...  we're about to find out that HC is behind Death Trains(tm) and the government watching us through our televisions ... then it will all make sense to you.

 ::)

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Nope no jew killing.... but if I ever had the chance, I'm pretty sure I would be willing to kill Jerry Lewis.  ;)

I'm a pacifist though so Xiaou2's comments were WAY out of line.  See I fight with my words.... the only injuries after one of my attacks are hurt prides and slaughtered opinions.  aka "teh butt hutz"

I'm sorry I gave you teh but hurtz man..... put some ice on it... walk it off and we'll have fun in some other thread sometime.  Anyway, I'm leaving this train wreck of a rant..... so long and thanks for all the fish!!

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #77 on: January 17, 2012, 01:23:19 pm »

Yep, calling someone a Nazi is for sure protected speech.

But your face is not protected from someone's fist after calling them a Nazi.

The First Amendment does not protect us from the consequences of our words. 

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #78 on: January 17, 2012, 01:41:00 pm »
Yep, calling someone a Nazi is for sure protected speech.

That's debatable , slander, harassment, slander, libel ,etc
Xiaou2 is just a simpleton who cant come up with a real example so he defaults to something, well, retarded.


Anyways:

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Re: Storage Wars Texas: Proof that now even arcade OPERATORS are stupid.
« Reply #79 on: January 17, 2012, 01:48:14 pm »
Yep, calling someone a Nazi is for sure protected speech.

That's debatable , slander, harassment, slander, libel ,etc


Debatable?  No, he's obviously not a Nazi.

Slander?  No, slander is spoken.

Harassment?  No, harrassment is an aggressive pattern.

Slander?  No, we covered that.

Libel?  The only possibility but libel need to be specific as well as demonstrably damaging in order to be actionable.  If this were not the case the entire internet would be... erm... liable for libel damages.

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