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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 08:38:00 pm »
Well, I know for sure it will fit in my cab...just wondering if this is what I need...

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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 08:56:40 pm »
Looks good.  Keep in mind that you will have to figure out how to deal with the refresh rate, which is incompatible with Windows (and every other OS out there!).
The other alternative is a TV, which you might consider if you want to save money.

Link to a page about refresh rates:
http://www.tiptonware.com/mame_machine/Original_Cabinet.htm
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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 10:28:05 pm »
Looks good.  Keep in mind that you will have to figure out how to deal with the refresh rate, which is incompatible with Windows (and every other OS out there!).
The other alternative is a TV, which you might consider if you want to save money.

Link to a page about refresh rates:
http://www.tiptonware.com/mame_machine/Original_Cabinet.htm

You mean the sync rate, not the refresh rate.  Two different things.  But yes, out of the box Windows can't sync to 15khz.  That's easily enough corrected through the use of hardware such as an ArcadeVGA graphics card, or programs such as Soft 15khz, advancemame, or GroovyMame.

Additionally, any Linux distribution will allow the user to set their display pretty much however they like as long you know what modeline to specify.  

As to the question of the OP.  Well, there's not much to go by in the description of the auction.  It is indeed a CRT, and appears to have a curved screen.  It might be a Neotec since it is dual-sync.  It should have a nice "original" looking picture as long as it arrives in working order.  

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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 11:20:30 pm »
If you want to run everything in native resolutions try to find a digital multisync

If you are only after a few select games that run at the same resolution then digital dosen't really matter and an analog monitor like you posted will do just fine

Digital will remember any adjustments you make on the different modes or resolutions such as vertical size, pincushion etc.

cga and ega and vga will cover most everything in mame and vector game don't look half bad on a monitor that can do svga 800 by 600
wg has a 2 such monitors the d9200 and d9400, both are a 27 incher and will run verticle games at almost the normal vertical size when mounted horizontally

The D9200 is a curved crt tube and the d9400 is a flat tube but both are digital monitors and work great for mame builds.

There are a few other options but they are hard to find since production stopped several years ago, Billabs had one that was reviewed on retroblast.
I think there may even be one or two more digital tri syncs as well, but don't take that to the bank

I have seen both D9200 and D9800 come up for sale every now and then, expect to pay 150 to 400 pending the source or seller and working condition.
You may even find one in a Driver or GT cab.

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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 11:37:41 pm »
My 2 cents...that's a great monitor size for a MAME cab. As mentioned, you can either get an ArcadeVGA card, or install the CRT Emu Driver custom ATI drivers (you'll need to use an ATI card) and use GroovyMAME.  You'll need to run Windows at 640x480i. Horizontal games will look terrific on that thing.  One thing to keep in mind with a CGA only monitor is that you'll have to compromise on the vertical games a bit.  Most of them will display fine, but the 280 and above line games (Galaga, Pacman for example) will have to be adjusted so that the top and bottom slightly cut off a bit.  If you try and make them fit, then the horizontal games will have a bit of space on the top and bottom, so you have to figure out a good compromise between the two.

If you want to run everything in native resolutions try to find a digital multisync

The other option is to have a rotating CGA monitor (or a separate vertical and horizontal cab) in which case you get perfect resolutions on 99.9% of arcade games.  >:D

EDIT:
Just noticed that this monitor also does EGA (512x384 roughly) although I think you may need to manually switch it to use that resolution.  Maybe worth asking the seller about that.  That would let you run games like 720, Super Sprint and Paperboy at their native res.
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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 12:23:46 am »
Looks good.  Keep in mind that you will have to figure out how to deal with the refresh rate, which is incompatible with Windows (and every other OS out there!).
The other alternative is a TV, which you might consider if you want to save money.

Link to a page about refresh rates:
http://www.tiptonware.com/mame_machine/Original_Cabinet.htm

You mean the sync rate, not the refresh rate.  Two different things.  But yes, out of the box Windows can't sync to 15khz.  That's easily enough corrected through the use of hardware such as an ArcadeVGA graphics card, or programs such as Soft 15khz, advancemame, or GroovyMame.

Additionally, any Linux distribution will allow the user to set their display pretty much however they like as long you know what modeline to specify. 

As to the question of the OP.  Well, there's not much to go by in the description of the auction.  It is indeed a CRT, and appears to have a curved screen.  It might be a Neotec since it is dual-sync.  It should have a nice "original" looking picture as long as it arrives in working order. 

Well you're right.  Not refresh rate (  :( ), but Scan Rate.  You'll have to forgive my error.  I have read a lot, but that is all I know about this stuff. :dizzy:
I don't know where you got sync rate though...
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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 01:10:29 am »
Scan Rate is more specific and is the correct technical term, but when dealing with monitors it's often phrased in terms of a monitor being able to sync to a specific frequency, e.g. 15-31 kHz.  

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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 02:42:10 am »
Ah.  I see.  Thank you for clarifying that.  You can see by my post count that I am still a newbie, and rightly so.  Sorry for my bad information!
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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 04:58:14 pm »
Yes, I now know that I want/need a 25" digital multisync as I want to run all games at native resolution using the ArcadeVGA3000.

So who has a new one for sale? Anyone here? What about a used one?

Somebody has to have one somewhere!

Thanks for the replies.

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Re: Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 07:58:45 pm »
Happ seems to be selling a makvision 25" for around $350

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Re: Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 09:11:10 pm »
Happ seems to be selling a makvision 25" for around $350

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Yes, but I don't belive that they are digital multisync.

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Re: Is this a good monitor for Mame?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 05:05:29 am »
Love the name of the seller of that monitor: funlcd .
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