Anyone feel like the Wii U is doomed?

[Mikezilla]

Whoa whoa WHOA. Everyone shut up.

Donk, did you say you are going to get UFC 141 for free?!?  How?!?! Please dont tell me its some hacked thing or something...

[Donkbaca]

They haven't lost 200 million they have lost 200 million in potential earnings.  In other words, they lost magical unicorn vapor.    Nintendo will still end the year with a profit, it just isn't as large a profit as they promised their shareholders.

 

it grates on me when people say I don't have facts straight when they present no facts to the contrary:  http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/111027e_2.pdf

Latest nintendo forecast.  Says forecasted loss is 20,000 million yen.  That is 256 million dollars.  I presume you would consider this a fact. a loss of 256 million dollars is not a profit.  You are wrong.  Get your facts straight.


Here is what kills Nintendo: The lack of good 3d party support.  They only games worth playing are largely home grown games and you are LUCKY if you get 2 of those a year.  

To me this seems an AWFUL lot like Sega - rested on their laurels after the genesis, came out with systems that lagged behind their competitors.  Released a "next gen" system in the dreamcast that was barely better than the current generation and then got crushed by the next gen.

Here is why the 3DS matters so much for Nintendo.  Its pretty much their bread and butter. Here is another fact: Nintendo's share of the mobile gaming pie is shrinking and games on other mobile devices are eating into their market share:http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/nintendo-3ds-sales/

So what?  Its just market share, right? So what if the pie piece is shrinking as long as the pie is growing?  Well that's the thing, if you look at the numbers, the pie piece for nintendo is shrinking much faster than the whole pie is growing.

The analysis that there is still room for a portable system is bunk.  Why would you pay for a device that JUST does games and carry around another device, when for ostensibly the same price you can get an ipod touch which will play games and do so much more?

We are all entitled to our opinion, mine is that the writing is on the wall. Hand held gaming is going to go the way of hand held cameras.  Sure there are some people that would prefer a dedicated device, but most of us would rather just snap away on our smartphones.

[Donkbaca]

Donk, did you say you are going to get UFC 141 for free?!?   How?!?! Please dont tell me its some hacked thing or something...

Yup, download the UFC app and you get to watch the whole PPV for free.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it Nintendo.  If you want to build a business catering to the whims of 8 year olds and bank on their ability to convince their parents to drop 200 bucks so they can play Nintendogs, well then, best of luck to you.

[Mikezilla]

Donk, did you say you are going to get UFC 141 for free?!?   How?!?! Please dont tell me its some hacked thing or something...

Yup, download the UFC app and you get to watch the whole PPV for free.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it Nintendo.  If you want to build a business catering to the whims of 8 year olds and bank on their ability to convince their parents to drop 200 bucks so they can play Nintendogs, well then, best of luck to you.

Does the UFC app cost anything? Are you sure?! Thats nuts! I was torn to buy it, because I want to just see alistair beat the crap out of brock, but the rest of the card sucks. Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Now I just need to get the xbox back from my stupid GF's house! 

[Donkbaca]

no, its free.  UFC trying to promote the app so they can use it as a platform for digital distribution in the future.

[shmokes]

If you want to build a business catering to the whims of 8 year olds and bank on their ability to convince their parents to drop 200 bucks so they can play Nintendogs, well then, best of luck to you.

Yeah . . . cos the 8 year olds of the world have never been able to get their parents to do anything like THAT before.   

I see where you're going Donkbaca. And there's plenty of truth to it. Mobile phones and tablets will eat into Nintendo's profits. But it ain't here yet--not nearly to the degree you're suggesting. 8-year-olds don't want to watch UFC. They don't want an iPod touch. They want a DS. Their parents want to get them what they want. And the 8 year old will have no more trouble convincing their parents to drop 200 bucks on a 3DS than they had getting them to drop that on the DS.

But as for this generation, Nintendo will not lose money on the 3DS. That's asinine. This year they're paying for major R&D and tooling to manufacture the 3DS. They never have to pay for that again. And component prices do drop. They drop quickly. Nintendo may have some bumpy roads ahead of them, but as a company they're still very healthy and will be for some time. Hell . . . just a couple years ago they were the most valuable company in all of Japan. More valuable than Sony, Toyota, Canon, Honda, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, etc. I don't know where they stand today, but it's not far off that mark.

[Mikezilla]

no, its free.  UFC trying to promote the app so they can use it as a platform for digital distribution in the future.

Its only for 25,000 fans, I wish you would have told me sooner! They are sold the ---fudgesicle--- out.