Author Topic: EMS Top Gun 3 Released - !!!!!Updated!!!!! (Read 34989 times)

lodoss118 · « **on:** September 17, 2011, 08:18:15 am »

Just got this today, it seems like you have stand a bit (1 1/2 arms length) back, but probably same as aimtraks. It takes 4 batteries and the build quality is ok.
I haven't tried any games yet will do a more rigid test on saturday. I think the same problems occur like the wide lens issue but just need stand
abit back then its ok. I think for an arcade monitor because the area size is like a square, the distance is the same for the ir configuration.

Nephasth · « **Reply #1 on:** September 17, 2011, 10:29:26 am »

Link?

lodoss118 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2011, 10:51:46 am »

link to manual:

http://www.hkems.com/files/1108/TopGun_III_eng.pdf

i wished they used the rf gun shell rather than keeping the old one?

some highlights:
pc,ps2/3,xbox support
wireless
recoil
laser?

comes with 4 led boxes similar to guncon 3?

Nephasth · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2011, 11:04:52 am »

Wow. Wireless and recoil for $51/gun. Who's going to try it out first?

Target Box looks interesting too. Just don't shoot your TV with your air rifle...

lodoss118 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2011, 11:17:07 am »

targetbox seems abit strange though i mean youw ould rather have that thing inside the gun lol.
topgun 3 is appealing but lets see what other people think?

Nephasth · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2011, 11:19:28 am »

Quote from: lodoss118 on September 17, 2011, 11:17:07 am

targetbox seems abit strange though i mean youw ould rather have that thing inside the gun lol.

It's interesting due to the fact you don't have to sacrifice the functionality of the air rifle, you can go from shooting up MAME to shooting up the neighborhood cats.

DCsegaDH · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:17:35 pm »

Looks interesting! I wonder if you have to stand far away from the screen like the older ones?

lodoss118 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:34:59 pm »

i suppose that is the question

Nephasth · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:38:51 pm »

Quote from: DCsegaDH on September 17, 2011, 12:17:35 pm

Looks interesting! I wonder if you have to stand far away from the screen like the older ones?

Quote from: The Manual

8.1.2 The distance between the gun and the screen should be around 2 to 3 times of the distance D (shown below).

Depends on how you set up the IR LEDs. (Couldn't copy and paste the diagram)

DCsegaDH · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:46:01 pm »

Quote from: Nephasth on September 17, 2011, 12:38:51 pm

Quote from: DCsegaDH on September 17, 2011, 12:17:35 pm
Looks interesting! I wonder if you have to stand far away from the screen like the older ones?

Quote from: The Manual
8.1.2 The distance between the gun and the screen should be around 2 to 3 times of the distance D (shown below).

Depends on how you set up the IR LEDs. (Couldn't copy and paste the diagram)

Got it, I couldn't get the link working before. I might try this for my next project

Nephasth · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:52:40 pm »

Manual also states that only one set of IR LEDs is required for two guns playing on the same screen (something that is expected). But I'm wondering if I could also read that as two guns can be used on two screens for the same game if each screen has its own set of IR LEDs. I've thought about guns on the Two-Headed beast, but I'm not 100% sure how it would work out on the dual screens (never seen an example of it before).

lodoss118 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2011, 12:57:51 pm »

i wished they used another shell though i though the rf was ok

SammyWI · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2011, 06:01:26 pm »

Interesting. Even though I've recently modded a couple of airsoft guns with Aimtraks.

I wonder if the recoil function is just a vibration motor or is it a 'slide recoil'. Also like the wireless aspect of it. I'd find a way to cram batteries in my Aimtraks if that was an option.

TheSlim · « **Reply #13 on:** September 19, 2011, 05:55:27 am »

Wireless and recoil look awesome. But with all the calibration problems I had on tg2 I am going to stay away. Unless there are rave reviews.. also what's xp64 support? I had to tweak the tg2 xp64 driver to get it to work

Nephasth · « **Reply #14 on:** September 19, 2011, 10:15:05 am »

Inquired about dual screen functionality and got this response.

Quote

Dear Nephasth,

Thank you for your email.

EMS TopGun III has two channels. Two EMS TopGun III could be connected to the same console. (PS2/PS3/XBOX/PC).

If you are using two TopGun with the same game and same screen, you only need to mount one set of IR LEDs on the screen.

If you are using two TopGun with two separate screens, you need to mount one set of IR LEDs for each screen. Further more, any IR sources (include another set of IR LEDs) are interrupt sources. That means, there should be only ONE screen in the sight of TopGun III, or it would got interrupted.

By the way, would you please tell us which game are you talking about ? It could output to two screens for two players (co-operation) gameplay ? We are interested in this.

Thanks.

Regards,
Henry
EMS Production Ltd.
www.hkems.com

Martijn · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2011, 11:16:06 am »

Did you ask about the recoil

?

Shoegazer · « **Reply #16 on:** September 19, 2011, 11:23:13 am »

Looks great. Would of course prefer the Ultimarc Aimtrak (EMS driver support is notoriously bad for one thing) but Aimtrak recoil is apparently still a ways away so we may end up going this route instead.

shateredsoul1979 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2011, 11:35:16 am »

So far the only difference seems to be that it's wireless.

I really liked the build of the ems topgun II, feels really sturdy and heavy, and it was slide recoil. Seriously though, they made this look even more like a real gun.

The sensors also look the same, and are required to be in the same position. I'm skeptical, I'm not sure why they wouldn't just add more sensors on the bar to increase accuracy.

Nephasth · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2011, 11:46:21 am »

Quote from: Martijn on September 19, 2011, 11:16:06 am

Did you ask about the recoil ?

Quote from: Nephasth on September 19, 2011, 10:15:05 am

Inquired about dual screen functionality and got this response.

Nope, their site says it has recoil. It didn't specify anything about dual screens, which is something the pertains to my build. The only reason I sent an email.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #19 on:** September 20, 2011, 12:16:05 pm »

What the heck?!?

I finally break down and buy an Aimtrack kit and soon after I get it working Ultimarc releases an assembled gun and after that Top Gun releases a wireless gun.

This hobby is for playing 30 year old games and yet it's like trying to keep up with an iPhone.

lodoss118 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 20, 2011, 12:24:58 pm »

ur lucky i bought the usb2gun and real arcade guns - expensive and does not work good.

probably get these now

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #21 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:35:32 pm »

Real arcade guns don't work? That stinks.

I kicked myself when they came out too. I prefer the Aimtrack body, I just didn't like putting it together.(I know, I'm in the wrong hobby)

I want a second gun, but since I'm using a 21 inch monitor two guns are sort of ridiculous.

I'll wait for someone to come out with an already assembled shot gun/rifle controller(that's under $100).

Lilwolf · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2011, 05:59:58 am »

My biggest complaint with the TopGun2 was the lag... it wasn't much, but it was there. And for some games, you want to move to the left, shoot once, and move back to the right real quick...and sometimes it would register it off.

Wouldn't a wireless version have more lag?

I guess they could have fixed the lag in the circuits, that allowed them to add a bit more lag in the wireless. (and I guess all the consoles got past the lag in the wireless)

so hopefully it's not an issue.

MAGG · « **Reply #23 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:17:45 am »

Quote from: lodoss118 on September 17, 2011, 11:17:07 am

targetbox seems abit strange though i mean youw ould rather have that thing inside the gun lol.
topgun 3 is appealing but lets see what other people think?

Has anyone seen how the thing looks inside? Would be a nice if it would fit in an old arcade gun.

lodoss118 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 23, 2011, 01:58:00 pm »

i don't know any place u can order it from, i tried directly but get no response at all. I think on site ordering is for bulk only?

MAGG · « **Reply #25 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:13:28 pm »

it can be ordered at "goldenshop", but i do not know if they are trustworthy....

lodoss118 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:19:32 pm »

i can't find it on there?

MAGG · « **Reply #27 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:32:45 pm »

Did not know if links are allowed, but here you are:
http://www.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/xbox/targetbox.htm

lodoss118 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:54:18 pm »

hmm that is the targetbox and not the topgun III

Cruor · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:58:22 am »

Wow this thing looks sick. And I had finally made up my mind to get the aimtraks. Think I'll wait to see how other like the new topguns now.

Martijn · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2011, 09:15:51 am »

How about we get the ps3 assault rifle , repaint it

and the namco time crises 2 guns, and put the recoil of the namco guns into the assault rifle and add the ems top gun 3 wireless system and a huge batterij in de batterij magazine

gonna give that a try

lodoss118 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 24, 2011, 09:56:32 am »

still can't find a place to buy this thing

TheSlim · « **Reply #32 on:** September 24, 2011, 11:31:07 am »

lodoss118 email play-asia.com, when this is forsale, they will be the first ones to have it. I bought my TGII from them.

lodoss118 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:28:11 am »

Hi Guys u know me i like wasting moneyz. I just ordered 2 of these will let u know how i get on

.

Martijn · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:34:52 am »

great, make some nice youtubes and review

Franco B · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:36:16 am »

You could have bought some dedicated original hardware which actually works with the money that you have spent rather than trying all these things which don't work or not very well

lodoss118 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 27, 2011, 06:00:32 am »

yes i know lol

shateredsoul1979 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 27, 2011, 02:35:13 pm »

took one for the team! Thanks!

BadMouth · « **Reply #38 on:** September 27, 2011, 02:37:46 pm »

Quote from: shateredsoul1979 on September 27, 2011, 02:35:13 pm

took one for the team! Thanks!

I think he's on his third.

lodoss118 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 27, 2011, 05:16:52 pm »

lol the thing is the ultimarc usb gun is supposed to be somewhat different so i might get that from mr david foley aswell, i did try to get him to send me some software
but seems like he was not budging.

This ems topgun 3 will do a review when i get it.


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