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With cheap counter top touch screen games (Megatouch, JVL, etc.) becoming readily available, should we add a new section dedicated to these units for troubleshooting, repair and other tips for these machines to the BYOAC forum header?

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2013, 07:57:35 pm »
I nominate '---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- You Probably Played Last Time You Were Lit Up At The Bar/Pub'

Touchscreen Gaming Systems is good, too. >:D
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2013, 08:42:02 pm »
just to kick this into the ball game
general counter top game's is a little short
just like touch screen game's is a tad broad
let's refine it
ie merit/jvl touch screen's or such
or we keep it general
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2013, 09:17:54 pm »
Another consideration on title choice, the longest title right now is "Project Announcements" and the longest in the first column is "Arcade Miscellaneous"

Project Announcements
Arcade Miscellaneous
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Merit/JVL Touchscreen
Touchscreen Systems
Touchscreen Game Systems
Touchscreen Gaming Systems
Touchscreen Games
Countertop Games
Countertop Systems

Looks like Ed's idea is both a good fit for the current menu layout and an accurate description.   :cheers:


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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2013, 09:26:02 pm »
I just voted yes, because I think it's a good idea.
Makes me feel bad now about not doing a poll for "Automated Projects, was Mrotate" before asking Saint to set it up. (My apologies to the group.)
I would also like to see a forum for Electrical, I know this has been tossed around, and I suppose Automated Projects could include that.

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2013, 09:43:08 pm »
100% correct pl1
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2013, 09:54:08 pm »
100% correct pl1
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2013, 10:13:31 pm »
Yep, I like Merit/JVL Touchscreen too.  :cheers:

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2013, 10:16:14 pm »
I would also like to see a forum for Electrical
I'd settle for the Wiki logins being fixed so we could put the info there.   :soapbox:

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2013, 10:18:52 pm »
to be quite honest, i haven't viewed the WIKI since i found the link to the forum.

google searches come from the forum.

everybody's here.

 :dunno

EDIT:

also they never fixed my OCD. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,122022.msg1296535.html#msg1296535

also some other stuff is broken on some of the other forum skins.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 10:31:26 pm by lilshawn »

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2013, 10:43:46 pm »
ok
guy's let's nail it down
sub or main fourm ?

lilshawn
the link dose work

i like a header
ie touchscreen or merit/jvl

then we do our best to make ppl understand what they are playing with :)

my vote goe's toward's a sep fourm in the main fourm
much like this

>Main Woodworking Reviews Software Monitor/Video Maximus Arcade
Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Project Announcements Artwork Consoles Buy/Sell/Trade Meet Up
Arcade Miscellaneous Everything Else Politics n Religion Forum Discussion Wiki Discussion GroovyMAME
DOS/WinCab PowerMAME SK Jukebox Mrotate Project Arcade Old Boards
Linux Restorations Pinball MaLa Frontend controls.dat Old Archives
<
but it would inculde touch-system's
then can be refiend

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2013, 11:48:50 pm »
to be quite honest, i haven't viewed the WIKI since i found the link to the forum.

I don't expect an experienced guy like you to be reading the wiki all the time, but there are many good reasons to fix it.

1. It's easier to steer people to a well-written wiki page than spending lots of time typing up a lengthy response that has a huge overlap with 20 other lengthy responses that you've typed up in the last month.  ::)

It's much more efficient to post, "Read this and LMK if you have further questions."

2. The info in the Wiki is now badly out-of-date.

3. The "Unknown Unknowns" factor - A well-organized wiki page will let noobs discover related issues/topics and make it easier for them to use better/more correct terms when searching or asking questions in the forums.

4. Forum search results can give you out-of-date info -- and only the poster (or a mod) can fix it.

IIRC, one of the reasons I bought a TT2+encoder instead of a SpinTrak was a post that mentioned a several-seconds switching delay between spinner and trackball if you accidently jostle the wrong one first when both are connected to your Mini-Pac.

Apparently that hasn't been the case for a long time.   :dizzy:
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2013, 08:33:38 am »
Just add the forum already... what's the big deal with the naming of it?

If you call it MERIT/JVL then you are eliminating all the MIDWAY Touchmaster Infinity games.  I know they are the lesser of the three in manufacturing quantity but they are still out there...

Here's my nomination... straight from the ION 2013 Software attract mode..

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2013, 11:56:25 am »
I think you need to include homebuilt touch game countertops in your consideration of who will be using the forum. I am not forgetting about my project on hold, but I have Angry Birds and IGT slot machines already configured. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,123338.0.html
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2013, 01:27:01 pm »
OK, I will set this forum up. Please settle on a name and let me know :)  Should someone moderate the forum? If so, whom?
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2013, 01:29:07 pm »
it begins.

the reason I was considering just the commercial countertops is because they are all the same (between models) and they have their own specific set of software for them. information contained in the forum would be particular to these machines. common problems have a common solution across the board because of this linearity. All the same boards, all the same displays, all the same configuration.

a home built machine could have any amount of software or hardware in it...making diagnosis fairly difficult. The issues you may encounter could be caused by just about ANYTHING. hardware, software, errors in setup, or modifications.

Perhaps a HOMEBUILT child forum inside the "touchscreen games" parent forum could be in order. (similar to how the "Drinking, Knitting & Boating Forum" and the "Meet-Up" are sub forums of the "everything else" forum.

Assuming we can keep the cross-contamination down, It could work.

Thoughts?


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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2013, 01:31:59 pm »
Thoughts?

Merit/JVL Touchscreen

I think it will keep the people looking for emulators/downloadable games away.
Someone with a Touchmaster would still know to post there.

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2013, 01:36:24 pm »
Thoughts?

Merit/JVL Touchscreen

I think it will keep the people looking for emulators/downloadable games away.
Someone with a Touchmaster would still know to post there.

I second BadMouth's suggestion. Also, a Homebuilt subforum would be best. The proposed forum is really for commercial machines converted to home use, anyway.

And I nominate lilshawn and/or ed12 to be moderator, if he is willing.
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2013, 06:49:21 pm »
And I nominate lilshawn and/or ed12 to be moderator, if he is willing.

I suppose I could step up to the plate and keep it on track. if no one objects of course.

I also have no problems with someone helping out too. no need to be pretentious and monopolize the subforum.

EDIT:

Looks like Ed's idea is both a good fit for the current menu layout and an accurate description.   :cheers:


I agree as well... "Merit/JVL Touchscreen" is both describing exactly what we want, and it seems to fit in the space okay. with a child forum for homebuilt systems seems appropriate.

Should "Merit/JVL Touchscreen" prove to be too long, (IE formatting issues with the other columns or on window re-sizes) shall we choose a next best alternative?

(a quick copy paste of suggestions.)

- Touch Systems
- Touchscreen Systems
- Touchscreen Game Systems
- Touchscreen Gaming Systems
- Touchscreen Games
- Countertop Games
- Countertop System
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2013, 07:19:46 pm »
Just calling it MERIT/JVL is a huge slap in the face to WMS Industries...

You can play CENTIPEDE on a Touchmaster..... I thought this was an ARCADE forum... HMMM...

And why did the best MEGATOUCH attract mode PIC of all time get shot down by the police...  If you want me banned just tell me to leave ... I see this pic on EVERY ION 2013 in the wild...

What is this PINSIDE?? :laugh2:

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2013, 07:24:30 pm »
well, they are available for download on their page...if you want to use it as a desktop...or whatever.

link may or may not be NSFW (guess it depends where you work)

http://www.megatouch.com/marketingmaterials/index.php


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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2013, 08:54:10 pm »
Where do you think I got the Pic in the first place,,,,

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2013, 09:00:16 pm »
imho
listing as touch screen
the a refeind engine
ie drop down's
will clear the matter's up
70% tell's anyone to do it

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« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2013, 12:42:35 am »
Go ahead and make the forum. I have a grounding question I want to ask.
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« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2013, 06:24:59 am »
yotsuya
u might as well ask now
if u are refering to 3 wire ground ?
please make sure the machine is fully grounded
ie all of the metal goe's to the half round lug
as a rule they tie it all toghter into a single point
then take the ac input ground >green wire< to that point
that is then fully grounded

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« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2013, 09:45:43 am »
Ed-

I thought it was grounded, then last night as it was on, I touched the lock on the back and could definately feel a light shock. Also, I've noticed that if I am barefoot, the touchscreen is wonky. If I put on shoes or if I sit on a stool, everything works just fine.
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« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2013, 12:10:49 pm »
maybe the outlet is improperly grounded. have you tried another?

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« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2013, 12:31:47 pm »
My house was built in 1955. I have a feeling the whole thing was improperly grounded. But yes, I've tried another outlet with the same results.
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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2013, 02:10:05 pm »
you might need to swap out the power inlet on the machine. It likely has caps and whatnots to help with surge supression built into (or onto) it. If the caps get zapped or get leaky the power gets shunted to ground. then you when you touch it you can feel it... I've only encountered it once before and that's what it was...

you might be best to change it to be sure.

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« Reply #68 on: February 06, 2013, 02:27:08 pm »
I replaced the power supply on it. Anything else I should look at?
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« Reply #69 on: February 06, 2013, 02:48:41 pm »
What Model is your machine? I'd Search your post out but I'm on the road using my smartphone.

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« Reply #70 on: February 06, 2013, 03:04:20 pm »
MegatouchXL, Telco Mobo, Titanium HD.
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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2013, 04:25:11 pm »
on a cement floor that will happen,just like back in the day when u pluged in a tube radio,had bare feet on a cement floor. and touched the chassic..that will learn u fast

but i am going with open ground

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2013, 08:55:42 pm »
Sounds like a great plan.  I like have logical separation of game info.

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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2013, 12:20:50 am »
You Have leakage someplace. Check The cord. You might have cracked insulation inside the jacket.

Or a coin has fallen inside where the AC is and its slightly energizing the cabinet.


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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2013, 08:51:02 am »
Forum added. Anyone want to give me a list of threads to move into the new forum?
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« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2013, 11:16:33 am »
SK Jukebox forum is no longer on the list of forums -- replaced by new touchscreen forum in menu.

Might be better to have touchscreen forum in column 1 or 2 to keep longer forum names in same column. 


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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2013, 10:33:58 pm »
SK Jukebox forum is no longer on the list of forums -- replaced by new touchscreen forum in menu.

Might be better to have touchscreen forum in column 1 or 2 to keep longer forum names in same column. 


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it's not in the hotlink bar at the top anymore but it is still available in the home of the forum. (click "HOME" in the menu just above the hotlink bar) - for people looking for it.

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Re: POLL - Add a new "Touchscreen Games" sub forum to BYOAC?
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2013, 02:49:27 am »
on a cement floor that will happen,just like back in the day when u pluged in a tube radio,had bare feet on a cement floor. and touched the chassic..that will learn u fast

but i am going with open ground

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Damn, maybe that explains why I never got the tingle when working on my kiosk in the kitchen. But now its in the back room where the flooring has been ripped up bzzzzzzt bzzzzzztt.