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Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« on: March 06, 2011, 02:54:05 pm »
Ok so I've already done a cap kit (my first attempt at that) which fixed the monitor problems.  I also cleaned up the CP a bit.  I have a couple questions, though. 

1)  The cab has what looks to be white paint splatters all over it.  I think someone painted a room and didn't cover it.  By the look of the splatters, I think they painted the ceiling.  Anyway, how do I get those off without taking off the original paint. 

2)  The CP has some spots at the corner where it bends and goes down the from of the dab.  It's worn down to bare metal.  How do I fix that?  Would touch up paint at least make it look presentable? 

3) It looks like a dog chewed on the front edges of the cab a bit.  The T-Molding is damaged and so is a bit of the cab at those same spots.  Will any replacement T-molding fit right or do I need to get a specific kind. 

4)  I figured a little wood filler could fix the tiny spots where the cab is damaged, but then I'd need to repaint.  How can I get paint that I know will match?  I'd like to get a small bottle of the dark blue and the yellow (to fix some blemishes on the Pac-Man symbol on the side). 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 01:38:20 pm »
Ok so I've already done a cap kit (my first attempt at that) which fixed the monitor problems.  I also cleaned up the CP a bit.  I have a couple questions, though. 

Great stuff! I'm glad to hear from your other thread that you got all the display problems fixed. So it's nice and bright now? No more fading "in and out"?
How did you feel about doing the cap-kit? Since you've said your handy-man skills stink, I think your opinion would really help others that are just getting into fixing their machines gain some confidence in the matter. Everyone starts somewhere, but it sounds like your first time went pretty smooth! Congrats!

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1)  The cab has what looks to be white paint splatters all over it.  I think someone painted a room and didn't cover it.  By the look of the splatters, I think they painted the ceiling.  Anyway, how do I get those off without taking off the original paint. 
I'm not sure if there's an easy way for this. You might be okay to use some paint-thinner mixed with water to lightly brush off the white splatters. I use eco-friendly turpentine (found at any art store), it's non-toxic and can be diluted with water. Start off with a thin mixture, get a small paint brush and apply it to the splatters, let it sit for a few minutes, then wipe it away with a damp rag. If the mixture doesn't work well, decrease the amount of water that you diluted it with then repeat the process.

It might take off the paint underneath it, in which case you might want to touch it up with the original colour. But hopefully if the mixture is thin enough that it'll only take the splatters.

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2)  The CP has some spots at the corner where it bends and goes down the from of the dab.  It's worn down to bare metal.  How do I fix that?  Would touch up paint at least make it look presentable? 
If you have a picture of this, post it. By the sounds of it the metal is dented in?  Disassemble the CP, "sandwich" it between two pieces of wood and and try hammering it back into shape with a small mallet-hammer.

As for the worn down area, I'm assuming you mean the Control Panel Overlay is damaged. If that's the case, you might want to consider getting a new overlay. QuarterArcade has a Super Pac CPO that looks pretty good, and for a decent price.

After re-shaping, strip off the old CPO -- there are multiple methods to do this, but the best way I've found is to get a scraper and a heat-gun, warm up the metal so the adhesive on the CPO weakens, then just scrape it off. Afterward, use some goo-gone, or citristrip to remove the remaining adhesive glue left over.
Then, strip the paint off the CP using a wire-wheel and drill. You don't want remaining glue left on it's surface, because it'll gum-up your wire-wheel, so make sure the surface is clean. Prime and paint it, let dry, then apply the new CPO.

Take a look at any of Spyridon's restoration threads, he's a wizard at this, and has got it down to a science!

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3) It looks like a dog chewed on the front edges of the cab a bit.  The T-Molding is damaged and so is a bit of the cab at those same spots.  Will any replacement T-molding fit right or do I need to get a specific kind. 
It should be standard 3/4" t-molding. You may want to measure the thickness of the wood to confirm.
You can get t-molding from anywhere really. I get mine from here.

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4)  I figured a little wood filler could fix the tiny spots where the cab is damaged, but then I'd need to repaint.  How can I get paint that I know will match?  I'd like to get a small bottle of the dark blue and the yellow (to fix some blemishes on the Pac-Man symbol on the side). 
I don't know if you'll be able to find stencils for the artwork. But you might be able to tape off all the art, then strip off the blue paint, sand it down, fill the damage with filler...then repaint.
If you go this route, you can probably chip a piece of the blue paint off and bring it into a paint shop for colour analysis.  As for the artwork, get some model paint that's the same colour and touch it up if need be.

Post some picture of this cabinet too, so we all know what you got to deal with.  :cheers:

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 02:58:00 pm »
Yeah, man.  The display looks great now.  So bright!  When we initially plugged the monitor back in there was ghosting and fading and the sound was choppy.  Turned out to be a loose connection.  Easy fix.  Anwyay, the soldering work was super easy.  I had a summer job back in 2001 that was building circuit boards.  I was afraid I was out of practice, but the skill came right back to me.  Even without expensive tools like that job supplied me with, I did a pretty good job.  You can't even tell the difference between the factory joins and mine!  My buddy gave one of the joints a shot.  He'd never done it before at all and he got the job done, but I went back and cleaned it up a bit.  With a bit of practice on some old boards from some old junk toys and whatnot, I figure a rookie can pick up the technique pretty easily.

The CP has what looks like a clear textured coating sprayed over the painted image.  That's why it was so caked with dirt.  On the front corner, the coating and paint is chipped.  There's no denting.  Only the dark blue areas are affected so I think a bit of touch up paint would fix it.  Luckily I don't have to worry about the stripes on the CP.  I don't have a ton of tools.  No wire wheel or anything so I'm hesitant to do that.  I took some windex and a tooth brush to the CP and it came up real clean after only about a half hour of work.  

The coin door was bent too.  It would stick shut and then bend instead of opening properly.  I managed to fix that with a hammer and a nail bar.  Shuts smoothly now.  I'll try and post some pics later if I have time.   Thanks for the reply, man.  Hearing encouragement from others gives me a ton of motivation.  Especially how unsure of my skills I am.  
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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 10:11:05 pm »
Tried a paint remover that was recommended by a friend.  It didn't take off the white paint splotches.  I might try my hand at using a razor very carefully.  It will take literally forever, but it might be worth it. 

I'm also having trouble figuring out a way to get a piece of this to Home Depot to get the blue paint matched. 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 01:12:34 pm »
I got the blue paint matched, but can't seem to find a code for the yellow/red and don't want to cart the thing to Depot to get it matched.  I wood puttied the dents and damage as best I could and started repainting all the blue.  I am now 2/3 done the one side.  It looks a ton better. 

Anyway, my main question for right now is what kind of bulb to buy for the coin door.  A friend told me that there are only 2 kinds of bulbs.  He gave me one of them and it doesn't fit.  I have done a number of searches on here and google and can't seem to find the poart # for the bulb.  The original manual doesn't help much either. 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 01:57:11 pm »
If it's latex paint, which it probably is, there's a good product called Lift off

http://www.amazon.com/Motsenbockers-413-01-Latex-Based-Remover/dp/B000LNVODI

I have used it successfully to get latex paint off of oil paint, kitchen cabinets, and the like without damaging the finish.  Test in an inconspicuous place, YMMV, etc. etc.

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 01:12:06 pm »
A friend gave me that and it didn't work. 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 01:52:42 pm »
Anyway, my main question for right now is what kind of bulb to buy for the coin door.  A friend told me that there are only 2 kinds of bulbs.  He gave me one of them and it doesn't fit.  I have done a number of searches on here and google and can't seem to find the poart # for the bulb.  The original manual doesn't help much either.  
Most likely a Mini-lamp Bayonet Style #44. WRONG


Many pinball and arcade machines used these bulbs. You can easily find them through a google search.
I know Bob Roberts and Twisted Quarter sells them.
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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 05:38:43 pm »
A friend gave me that and it didn't work. 

good indication that it's not latex paint then.  gonna be tough to get off without damaging what's below.  Looks like its worst on the coin door and t/mold, easy to repaint and replace, respectively.  Good luck.

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 07:44:28 pm »
http://www.pinballlife.com/ has great prices on the lightbulbs.  I got the site from the Arcade Repair Tips guys.  Like a factor of 10 cheaper than I was able to find searching online.

Good luck man, sounds like you are doing great work!

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 11:27:45 am »
Bulbs - the oen I pulled from the coin door doesn't have any metal on it.  It's "burnt" so I can't read the number on it.  I'll try and take a picture of it.  

Paint - The T-Molding (as well as the wood itself) was all chewed up by the owner's (my cousin) dog so I tore it all off and puttied the damage.  After painting over some of the repair work, you can't tell it was ever damaged.  The owner wanted me to MAME this out for him, but I told him that I wasn't willing to destroy such a great cab to do that.  We compromised that I would put on the Yellow T-Molding he requested instead of the classic textured black that was on there if he agreed to see me before he ever sold it.  If that ever happens, I'll likely pop off the yellow and put textured black back on there.  Anyway, my point is that I just need to focus on the front of the cab in terms of the paint splotches.  I tried scraping some of the spots off with a razor blade tip, but I ended up digging ever so slightly into the blue underneath the white.  Might be eaier to just paint over them on the blue.  Getting them off the coin door will be a challenge.  Maybe I can just repaint that black.  
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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 03:02:29 pm »
Bulbs - the oen I pulled from the coin door doesn't have any metal on it.  It's "burnt" so I can't read the number on it.  I'll try and take a picture of it.  
The original manual doesn't help much either.  

Don't know which manual you have, but if you take a look at the Parts List & manual it states the coin door bulbs are 12v lamp - G.E. #194  (pages 46, 47):

Those are the bulbs you need, not the ones I mentioned before.

Best to get yourself (and as a good practice for future restorations) the parts list as well as the manual so that you can have a full inventory of what's in the cabinet.

Also, great site Ground_Gainer!  Thanks for the link, those are some nice prices.

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 03:13:42 pm »
That's it, man!  You rock!  I was going off the old manual that I found inside the cab.  Either it's a different manual or I missed it.  Thanks so much!

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2011, 01:34:27 pm »
I bought those 194 bulbs and tossed them in.  They work great!

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 02:11:00 pm »
Good stuff.  :applaud:

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2011, 12:45:48 am »
For the yellow paint - Krylon yellow is a perfect match. I masked everything else off and resprayed the yellow on mine.



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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 07:57:57 pm »
That's awesome!  Why is yours Junior Pac-Man though?  Could that change the colors slightly?  I was hoping to only do touch ups on the yellow, not a full repaint. 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 12:46:27 am »
Mine was originally a Super PacMan, that had a factory Jr. PacMan conversion kit installed, which was a ROM set, a control panel overlay, marquee, big sticker for the front panel around the coin door, and the lovely Jr. PacMan sticker for the sides as you can see in my photo. Other than that it is identical to a Super PacMan - same colors.

Funny - mine had paint splatter around the coin door / front panel as well, except mine had black paint spattered on it...
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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2011, 01:46:44 pm »
It's slow going as I don't have a ton of free time, but I'm almost done painting the blue on both sides.  Yay!

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2011, 10:24:03 pm »
The new T-Molding is on and I managed to get most of the white paint splatters off the coin door.  I need to do a few touch ups on the paint apps and then it goes back to the owner after a year of me working on this piecemeal.  I'm both sad and happy to be done with it. 

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2011, 05:22:15 pm »
Dunno, but I think that the paint splatters are normal in Pac Man cabs... take a look at Spyridon's resto here http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=87614.msg1006918#msg1006918

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Re: Super Pac-Man Restoration Questions
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2012, 09:25:04 pm »
The long anticipated picture update.  Ok so I doubt anyone was really waiting with baited breath for this, but I figure for anyone who was wondering, I'm almost finished.  Only have to replace the plug and do some final touch ups on the blue and yellow before giving this thing back in way better shape than I got it.