Author Topic: RAM Controls (Read 353425 times)

shilmover · « **Reply #80 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:19:25 pm »

Quote from: RayB on May 12, 2011, 02:15:10 pm

The website news says that Dan works FOR Ram Controls:

3/15/11 - Please welcome Dan Johnston to the staff here at Ram Controls. Dan has taken the helm of the mail-order and wholesale departments of the company. His primary responsibility is to make sure the mail order and wholesale customers are well taken care of.

Right. if you talk to Dan, he now owns RAM Controls...

shrunkenmaster · « **Reply #81 on:** May 20, 2011, 03:50:47 pm »

Received my SW yoke overlay today. I had to email Dan to remind him it was missing from my order, but after that it took about 10 days to the UK.

Hope other people are having their orders fulfilled...

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #82 on:** June 15, 2011, 09:20:57 pm »

More info can be found in this thread started by Dan explaining (so much as he is willing/able) the situation:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=112414.0

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #83 on:** June 16, 2011, 10:51:34 am »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on June 15, 2011, 09:20:57 pm

More info can be found in this thread started by Dan explaining (so much as he is willing/able) the situation:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=112414.0

The company is tainted. Until the day the EVERYONE is paid back their money or parts, SCAM CONTROLS is tainted. Period.

Whoever buys from them at this point is part of the problem and should be ashamed of themselves.

EDIT: I am just amazed at how short the memory of some here are. Really. It's almost like some of you LIKE to be bent over or something. Are you people really that friggin' stupid? Serious question. This company has continually SCREWED the community for YEARS and because some other "D" named guy is now running it it's OK to buy from them? Really??? Even thought this tainted company owes THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to people for parts promised but never EVEN MADE let alone delivered and you're running back to them like a bunch of ---smurfing--- lemmings because someone new is at the helm?

Some of you people are morons ...and if that was just that I'd be ok with it... be stupid... unfortunately your BS praise for a tainted company will NO DOUBT convince newbs to buy from these thieves...and that is where I have a problem. So SCREW THAT... every time one of you stupid ---daisies--- praises this tainted company I'll be here to follow up with REALITY.

...and if one of you idiots have a problem with that? Tough crap. Blow it out your backside.

That is all I have to say.

I'm out.

EDIT: Removed vulgarity...

(+_+) · « **Reply #84 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:43:03 pm »

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — [pauses] — shame on you. Fool me — [pauses] — You can't get fooled again."

Hence, I guess you can't get fooled again.

Gray_Area · « **Reply #85 on:** June 22, 2011, 08:00:31 am »

Did the end of this thread get trimmed?

Vigo · « **Reply #86 on:** June 22, 2011, 12:34:33 pm »

Quote from: Gray_Area on June 22, 2011, 08:00:31 am

Did the end of this thread get trimmed?

You might be thinking of this thread.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=112414.msg1193583#msg1193583

(+_+) posted the same message in both threads, since the message applied to both threads.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #87 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:30:20 pm »

With the recent developments regarding RAM and the various identities assumed by the principals (and the apparent emergence of someone who received Paypal payments on behalf of RAMControls), I am shifting from "no dog in the fight, hope it works out" to "stay the ---fudgesicle--- away".

Dan's silence in the face of the new revelations is rather disturbing, especially since his surname has apparently been used in an alias by Adam/Dave in the past.

Looks like Frizz is right and I am now supportive of his "don't order until debts are clear" policy.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #88 on:** July 22, 2011, 07:50:57 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 22, 2011, 05:30:20 pm

With the recent developments regarding RAM and the various identities assumed by the principals (and the apparent emergence of someone who received Paypal

Looks like Frizz is right and I am now supportive of his "don't order until debts are clear" policy.

More sig fodder... w00t!

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #89 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:09:00 pm »

Well Dan (Jim Bloomquist) just "came clean" over at KLOV....

...sort of.

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?p=1708876&postcount=607

Nephasth · « **Reply #90 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:18:16 pm »

WOW.

saint · « **Reply #91 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:54:12 pm »

Quote from: FrizzleFried on July 22, 2011, 07:50:57 pm

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 22, 2011, 05:30:20 pm
With the recent developments regarding RAM and the various identities assumed by the principals (and the apparent emergence of someone who received Paypal

Looks like Frizz is right and I am now supportive of his "don't order until debts are clear" policy.

More sig fodder... w00t!

There is a maximum of two ego strokes per signature allowed. We're cutting you off after this one buddy.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #92 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:19:38 pm »

Quote from: saint on July 22, 2011, 10:54:12 pm

Quote from: FrizzleFried on July 22, 2011, 07:50:57 pm
Quote from: CheffoJeffo on July 22, 2011, 05:30:20 pm
With the recent developments regarding RAM and the various identities assumed by the principals (and the apparent emergence of someone who received Paypal

Looks like Frizz is right and I am now supportive of his "don't order until debts are clear" policy.

More sig fodder... w00t!

There is a maximum of two ego strokes per signature allowed. We're cutting you off after this one buddy.

No worries... I'll simply rotate them!

Man, this soap opera is turning out to be WAY deeper than I even thought.

EDIT: Egomaniacal rant removed.

RayB · « **Reply #93 on:** July 23, 2011, 08:26:42 pm »

~~Was right about what? "Dan" is still maintaining the same story.~~

*edit*, best to read the THREAD, not that single post linked above:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=172867&page=61

spoot · « **Reply #94 on:** July 24, 2011, 12:11:32 pm »

Wow, just wow.

ChadTower · « **Reply #95 on:** July 25, 2011, 12:10:29 pm »

That almost makes me feel guilty that I vouched for the guy having taken care of my Ram Controls debt.

SuprSprint · « **Reply #96 on:** July 25, 2011, 05:06:14 pm »

From KLOV:

Quote from: Dan_Ram

...Since I have put a significant amount of my own money to finish a couple of projects that were started previously I have a vested interest in getting them finished with Dave {Adam Judd}. When they are done Ill post here and let you all know.

Quote from: Dan_Ram

yes Adam is a friend of mine and I am trying to help him out. I was trying to do the same for Errol

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?p=1711869#post1711869

More on Adam, Jim, et.al.:
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?p=1712017#post1712017

Vigo · « **Reply #97 on:** July 25, 2011, 05:22:14 pm »

It's good to see the horrible tangle of lies start to unravel.

So who gets movie rights?

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #98 on:** July 25, 2011, 05:47:07 pm »

Hell... even I didn't have any idea how deep the rabbit hole went... and it seems we still don't.

RE: IP Logs - At least at KLOV a moderator has checked IP logs and they are from different IP addresses... that said it doesn't take a genius to spoof an IP address.

RayB · « **Reply #99 on:** July 25, 2011, 06:57:02 pm »

Wow, that was some fascinating popcorn reading.

saint · « **Reply #100 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:23:31 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on July 25, 2011, 05:29:59 pm

Is there any particular reason Saint is refusing to take a look at the IP logs for some of these recent RAM controls posts?

Sure seems like a lot of socks in that thread to me...

What makes you think I haven't?

saint · « **Reply #101 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:30:07 pm »

To clarify in a slightly less irritated tone.

1. I have checked IP logs when identities come into question, including this time.
2. I do not share anyone's personal information without a compelling reason to do so.
3. As Frizz points out, IP addresses don't mean much if someone is thinking about it ahead of time and plans accordingly.
4. If I had conclusive evidence that someone was pretending to be someone they were not in order to scam people, I would ban them and publicly out them. If I had something that was reasonably suggestive I'd say something. I'm not an ---uvula---.

RayB · « **Reply #102 on:** July 25, 2011, 09:14:20 pm »

They don't even have to be thinking about spoofing IPs. Someone whose ISP assigns dynamic IPs and that person is in the habit of just hitting the power switch on a power bar to turn off their computer system, including modem, will end up with a new IP every time they power up.

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #103 on:** July 25, 2011, 10:18:25 pm »

Quote from: RayB on July 25, 2011, 09:14:20 pm

They don't even have to be thinking about spoofing IPs. Someone whose ISP assigns dynamic IPs and that person is in the habit of just hitting the power switch on a power bar to turn off their computer system, including modem, will end up with a new IP every time they power up.

Not necessarily true... dynamic IP's can be assigned "chunks" of time. My Time warner connection would maintain the same IP for a month or two ....

But some...i'd guess... yeah...

SuprSprint · « **Reply #104 on:** July 25, 2011, 11:28:32 pm »

Quote from: RayB on July 25, 2011, 09:14:20 pm

They don't even have to be thinking about spoofing IPs. Someone whose ISP assigns dynamic IPs and that person is in the habit of just hitting the power switch on a power bar to turn off their computer system, including modem, will end up with a new IP every time they power up.

That is very rare. Unless you are on analog dial up, IP addresses are typically leased for months on end.

ChadTower · « **Reply #105 on:** July 26, 2011, 09:27:35 am »

Plus it would only be the least significant segment that changed. 3 of the segments would very very very likely remain the same and easily identifiable as another node on the same section of that ISP's network.

Of course, it's very easy to drive to someone else's house and log in from there. Or to go to any place with free wifi. Or to remote in to a machine and use a browser there. It doesn't take IP spoofing capability to use different IPs.

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #106 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:24:36 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on July 26, 2011, 09:40:30 am

when I was a professional troll

This means you've stopped?

Nephasth · « **Reply #107 on:** July 26, 2011, 12:26:21 pm »

Quote from: HaRuMaN on July 26, 2011, 12:24:36 pm

Quote from: pinballjim on July 26, 2011, 09:40:30 am
when I was a professional troll

This means you've stopped?

He just trolls casually these days...

saint · « **Reply #108 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:17:04 am »

Anyone here who hasn't read the KLOV forum threads on Ram Controls should. Caveat emptor.

Samstag · « **Reply #109 on:** August 02, 2011, 01:34:15 pm »

I'm waiting for the movie.

Circo · « **Reply #110 on:** August 12, 2011, 02:59:12 pm »

I just read the KLOV thread or alot of it at least. And all I can say is wow wow wow. Hard to believe this crap is real but i guess there is no denying it.

Havok · « **Reply #111 on:** September 02, 2011, 09:22:33 am »

This sounds like a Jerry Springer show...

Arcades R Fun · « **Reply #112 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:58:12 am »

I have read these posts over the last several Months but never looked at how much RAM Controls was charging for the Star Wars cockpits and uprights. Well, I just did and that was the first huge red flag for me!
IMO - Little to no profit is possible if he was going to build those games to the specs described at those prices.
You would need to charge twice the price to make sure that your overhead expenses would be covered, TAXES PAID ON THE PROFIT, and then a decent % net operating profit for the company.

No matter what good intentions were there at the beginning, it was a pipe dream from the start.
Jack

Delgar · « **Reply #113 on:** September 16, 2011, 02:03:41 am »

I really want a yoke. I sent this email last week to RAM Controls. I got no response. Sigh.

"Hello, I’d like to buy a yoke and a USB adapter. I’m in Canada. I’m also aware of the controversy surrounding your company from KLOV and BYOAC.

I will purchase a yoke, adapter, if you will ship them to me via UPS Worldwide Express to Canada, and I’ll pay the extra shipping costs. If this agreeable I would also ask that you throw in the Atari decal. I would be willing to pay via Paypal (I am verified) and my paypal account is backed by a Visa. To be clear, if the parcel does not arrive with a working yoke and accessories in the time agreed upon, I will cancel my order. Either way, good or bad, I will post my experience on the forums.

Let me know."

Havok · « **Reply #114 on:** September 16, 2011, 11:38:15 am »

If you really want a yoke then you can do it. Watch ebay for a used yoke. There are rebuild kits out there. Get a Sidewinder joystick and hack to fit the yoke. Re-paint the yoke if necessary and get a decal from Thisoldgame. Done.

ChadTower · « **Reply #115 on:** September 16, 2011, 11:54:39 am »

I probably have an extra yoke someplace. I'll have a look.

SuprSprint · « **Reply #116 on:** September 16, 2011, 03:32:54 pm »

@Delgar - I run an honest business and we try very hard to make our customers very happy long term customers. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't have responded to that email either. 10yrs of retail has taught me (the hard way) that no good comes of a transaction that starts with "If you do XXX, I will order from you" or "if you don't do XXX or I will do YYY".

Delgar · « **Reply #117 on:** September 16, 2011, 06:42:06 pm »

Quote from: pldoolittle on September 16, 2011, 03:32:54 pm

@Delgar - I run an honest business and we try very hard to make our customers very happy long term customers. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't have responded to that email either. 10yrs of retail has taught me (the hard way) that no good comes of a transaction that starts with "If you do XXX, I will order from you" or "if you don't do XXX or I will do YYY".

That's a fair comment actually. Its just I've read so much negativity, I started with the assumption they would try to take my money unless I let them know I'm aware as to what is going on.

ids · « **Reply #118 on:** September 16, 2011, 06:49:21 pm »

Most forms of payment will cancel the transaction if you dont get the goods (within some time limit). Best part of my cab is the RAM SW Yoke - that is one serious piece of hardware. I'd recommend considering looking into a reversible payment option, make sure you trigger the reversal when you get close to that time if the goods dont show, and go for it (I got mine in a day or 2 - yes yes rare as it may be). The vocal majority here are those who like to complain (yes yes, not without ample reason - it's well documented, please no flame wars) - the silent majority have SW Yokes and are very very happy with them.

There are other options as previously posted. Take your pick. And may the force be with you

SuprSprint · « **Reply #119 on:** September 16, 2011, 08:35:14 pm »

Quote from: Delgar on September 16, 2011, 06:42:06 pm

Its just I've read so much negativity, I started with the assumption they would try to take my money unless I let them know I'm aware as to what is going on.

I'm not saying you were wrong to put him on notice. Hell, I wouldn't do business with him notice or not. Just offering a little perspective about why you may not have gotten a response back.


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Author Topic: RAM Controls (Read 353425 times)

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