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RGB Driver/Wires Question
« on: March 22, 2010, 09:09:09 pm »
HI

I got my order from GroovyGameGear.com today.  I have question about the wires installed on the RGB Driver.  Which wire is for what coming off the driver?  I understand One is Red, Green, Blue & 5 Volts but don't know which is which.  Also do I have to be aware which wire goes to what input terminal on the ledwiz?  For example, to I have to be aware that the blue input for a certain driver goes to a specific input on the ledwiz?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36453841@N05/4455301833/#

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 10:53:16 pm »
Any help greatly appreciated.  ???

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2010, 12:44:37 am »
From the top (position 1);

Red (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
Green (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
Blue (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
+5vDC

I usually recommend connection to the LED-Wiz RGBRGBRGB....etc, starting with output number 1.  Most software out there doesn't care, though, so you can wire them the way it suits you best.


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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2010, 07:00:01 am »
From the top (position 1);

Red (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
Green (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
Blue (Ground or LED-Wiz Output)
+5vDC

I usually recommend connection to the LED-Wiz RGBRGBRGB....etc, starting with output number 1.  Most software out there doesn't care, though, so you can wire them the way it suits you best.


RandyT


Thanks Randy.  :)

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 12:17:16 am »
Just had some other questions about the LED-Wiz and wiring.

I have wired my LED RGB Driver wires to the outputs on The LED WIzs.  I have a total of 8 buttons (24 ouputs) on Dev 1, 8 buttons (24 outputs) Dev 2 & 7 buttons (21 Outputs) on Dev 3.  I wired all the 5 volt wires together and placed in the USB 5V Output for each device. 

Questions:

1. DO I have to use the External Ground?
I figure I don't since I'm not running any power off the computer power supply (just the USBs will be powering them).

2. Do I have to concerned with the "Bank Voltage Select" terminals?
I'm not sure about this.  Since I'm only running the drivers off the USB power do I need to wire these terminals?

3.  DO I have to link the devices to each other via wires or are they linked via software aka LEDBlinky, etc.?

Thanks.


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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2010, 03:04:06 am »
1) Yes you should be using the external ground because you should also be supplying the LED Wiz with 5v. This is because the LEDs you have connected could draw ~600-700mA on each LED Wiz and you only have ~500mA available from USB.

You need to feed the LED Wiz 5v and use the ground terminal to connect to the power source ground.

2) You don't need to utilise the bank select feature as you are just running 5v LEDs. However I bridged the +5v in and the banks like so:



I wasn't sure if this was correct so I PM'd randy and he said:

Hi Franco,

I was wondering if you could confirm this for me.

Could you take a look at this thread for me and tell me if I need to daisy chain the banks to the USB5v as I have in the 6th photo.

I don't think you needed them for what you are doing, but they won't hurt either.  What you did was "proper though, and exactly how it should be done.

Randy


3) No the devices do not need to be linked. Its all handled by the software.


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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 01:30:41 am »
1) Yes you should be using the external ground because you should also be supplying the LED Wiz with 5v. This is because the LEDs you have connected could draw ~600-700mA on each LED Wiz and you only have ~500mA available from USB.

You need to feed the LED Wiz 5v and use the ground terminal to connect to the power source ground.

Ok, this is striking me as a bit off for some reason.  You don't need to connect 5v to the LED-Wiz board anywhere but the "Bank Voltage Select" terminals.  If the wire heading out of the photo is going to the PC power supply, it's not correct.  That terminal is a tap into the 5v USB power, and shouldn't be tied to the PC supply. 

But if that wire is going to your LEDs, that's fine, as long as the load is not greater than the 500ma spec of the USB port.  This is what I thought was happening.

If you are going to the PC supply for the +5v, you don't want to hook anything to the "USB +5v" terminal at all.

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 03:02:40 am »
Heh, I was just going off what you told me was correct,  :P

Good job I haven't actually got round to using it yet  :laugh:

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 12:25:33 pm »
@RandyT

You know I am a huge fan and consumer of your products...but any thoughts to updating the documentation for these products to include "LEDWIz for Dummies Pics or drawings"?

Would be nice since you always seem to be jumping into threads for corrections...I know I had a heck of a time figuring out what went where and it took a lot of searching in the forums and messages to others with the product. The docs you include are good just  not great. Maybe a couple of pics showing a connection or even drawings showing a PSU etc would help a lot of new people to the product.

Just my 2 cents, again love the products just not a huge fan of the accompanying documentation! ;)
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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 12:57:42 pm »
@RandyT

You know I am a huge fan and consumer of your products...but any thoughts to updating the documentation for these products to include "LEDWIz for Dummies Pics or drawings"?

Would be nice since you always seem to be jumping into threads for corrections...I know I had a heck of a time figuring out what went where and it took a lot of searching in the forums and messages to others with the product. The docs you include are good just  not great. Maybe a couple of pics showing a connection or even drawings showing a PSU etc would help a lot of new people to the product.

Just my 2 cents, again love the products just not a huge fan of the accompanying documentation! ;)
+1  Great idea.

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 06:14:54 pm »
I second that!

Just bought some RGB drives and a LEDWiz so I'm glad this post came along.
I'm pretty good with electronics but even with the supplied docs it would have
taken trial and error to hook everything up.

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 11:45:39 am »
Thanks for everyones responses.  On friday before I headed down to the MIdwest Gaming Clasic I setup my LED-Wizs.  I only used 24 of the outputs per LEDWIZ and connected the 5 volts from the rgb drivers to the USB 5 Volts on the board.  Working great.  Setting up LEDBlinky was pretty easy once I followed the PDF instructions.  I set up MAME and now I just have to spend the time to set up the other emulators and tweek things the way I want them.  The voice saying the controls is very nice although I want to download a different voice as the lady I have is annoying.  Does anyone know good sites for these voices?  I think it was stated in the PDF where you could download others but I'm not in front of it at the moment.


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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 12:25:12 pm »
Does anyone know good sites for these voices?  I think it was stated in the PDF where you could download others but I'm not in front of it at the moment.

Try this thread:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=101336.0

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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 12:25:38 pm »
For GroovyGameGear.com's RGB LEDs:
(1st wire) Red Wire = +5v source - Connect this with the following to form that color:

(2nd wire) = Blue LED color (ground)
(3rd wire) = Green LED color (ground)
(4th wire) = Red LED color (ground)

Additional colors:
(2nd wire) + (3rd wire) = Light Blue color (ground)
(4th wire) + (3rd wire) = Yellow color (ground)
(4th wire) + (2nd wire) = Purple color (ground)
(4th wire) + (3rd wire) + (2nd wire) = White color (ground)

I have a video that I did showing wiring and how to power them by using a power supply (without an Led Wiz installed).  May be useful for you.  I've also listed color combos above as well.



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Re: RGB Driver/Wires Question
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 08:58:19 am »
The voice saying the controls is very nice although I want to download a different voice as the lady I have is annoying.  Does anyone know good sites for these voices?

AT&T Labs Natural Voices sound fantastic - but I don't think they can be downloaded for free. Try searching google for Free TTS Voices.
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